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Vindicare Assassin vs Gruntilda

Wow you are really tenacious about this

I'd have to look up some stuff on grunty, but I definitely will get you a response tonight.
 
Yes, although Grunty won't use some of her more threatening hax (EE and plot manip) without being bloodlusted.
 
The projectiles that Vindicare shoots move at almost light speed and can penetrate nearly anything. If starting distance is 500 meters he just snipes her head off
 
Also they'd need to be able to bypass forcefields to snipe Gruntilda's head off
 
Their movement speed is equalized, not the speed of their attacks. You can't equalize speed of his projectiles, that would be like trying to equalize speed of projectiles that X-Axis from Bleach uses and it doesn't work that way, or trying to equalize the speed of an attack that uses natural lightning. You can't do that
 
IIRC, when we were dicussing what to equalize with Speed Equalized, most of us were in agreement that if a faster character has an attack that would blitz even him, that attack still blitzes even with Speed Equalized.

Also, Vindicare has an answer for forcefields: Shieldbreaker rounds.
 
X axis has no travel time iirc. And yes, we equalize stuff in a relative manner. This ends up hurting Vindicares since their reactions and processing speed are faster than their bullets though.
 
The Vindicare will probably detect her and snipe her nearly instantly before she starts casting her spells. My vote goes to Vindicare
 
Grunty will be aware of him via clairvoyance, and creating a forcefield takes a thought. That's also assuming she doesn't use time shenanigans right off the bat.

I also doubt Vindicare can one shot her even without forcefields given her immortality type 2, even assuming all of their rounds negate durability
 
It's like, I really like this match, but I know so little about either character used, and each have potent ways to legitimately kill the other that I have no clue how to make a decision here.
 
I don't see Gruntilda using PM and EE in this fight unless it's really needed. Does Gruntilda spam her Magic? Because she might just win this by wearing out her opponent here
 
I doubt she'll use PM or EE at all tbh.

Her go-tos are time travel/time BFR or, well, magic. This would include making a forcefield around herself with a thought and firing homing spells at the Vindicare, while flying about on her broomstick.
 
Oh well then yeah she spams with magic and either wears him down or she notices it's not doing enough and BFR's.

Rhyming wicked witch of spiral mountain has my vote
 
Making a force field and sending homing spells? Sounds like the perfect set up fo the Vindicare to line up a shot before the spells get to him and hitting her with a Shield-breaker spell, going through her forcefield.
 
I thought we discussed this before. The Vindicare's rounds get speed equalized
 
He can still fire his rounds, just that they won't be blitzing Gruntilda.
 
That leaves him trying to close the distance when Gruntilda has no need, or she's evading all his rounds with a lot of ease. Not to mention Shieldbreaker rounds being the only ones tailor made to break forcefields.
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
That leaves him trying to close the distance when Gruntilda has no need
It's the other way around, Gruntilda gets outranged if she goes for her offensive magic
 
So her personality is the only thing stopping her from not abusing her teleportation to close the distance right away?

Not to mention that her ranged assault matters because it's actually homing, his... at speed equal for projectiles I don't see what stops her from just dodging normally until she's way close.
 
Vindicare's immense skill could probably help him hit her. Given that she can survive as simply a floating head, or as her own soul, he'd definitely have to hit her at least a few times though
 
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