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Versus Thread Removal Requests (New forum)

ShionAH said:
About Adam, while I was gone he got downgraded and then farmed... such a sad sight to see. Of course I'll save my KING!
So this will be a common explanation but like there was almost no debate, somone said Makima one shots and low diffs. Some people disagreed because of Adam's Holy Light being a game changer, right after people started voting Makima and it ended... Only like one guy talked about the matchup and he did that after the 5 votes were casted
  • Pochita (Chainsaw Man) Pochita's Profile ("Part 1" Pochita was used; High 7-C was restricted; Battle took place in Infinitely Sized Burger King; Distance is 20m; Speed was Equalized.
You can't make this up, first comment is a vote for Pochita. Like, not a single soul even debated how Adam can tank slashes due to his Immortality and when he takes even one he is going for Blasts. Either way its obviously spited.
This one ain't so bad but still the distance was clearly unfair for Adam yet nothing was changed, according to the votes this is also a stomp due to the distance
  • Yoru (Chainsaw Man) Yoru's Profile ("Post-Fear Boost" Yoru was used; Adam has Prior Knowledge; Battle took in Shibuya; Distance is 50m; Speed was Equalized.)
Again. First comment, vote. According to them Yoru just one shots off the bat... how is this like fair oh wait! He has knowledge now, that should change the entire bat- why is everyone voting Yoru without explanation. Wtf?
  • Ryomen Sukuna (Jujutsu Kaisen) Sukuna's Profile ("15 Finger" Sukuna was used; Sukuna's possible Soul Manipulation is allowed; Battle took place in the Hellaverse Hell's Pride Ring, near tye Hazbin Hotel; Distance is 75m; Speed was Equalized)
This one actually had debates and I can see this being okay to keep, my only problem is despite the later arguments about skill instead of going back at the start with these in mind people just voted Sukuna.
Atp this should be a rule violation, so the first comment is slandering Adam and glazing Gabriel. Someone says Gabriel can resist a heat thats way less than Adam's and then randomly people vote Gabriel, someone says Adam can win and its closed. Wow... what a fight huh?
This one is frying me, not a SINGLE argument in sight. First comment says, Adam gets skill diffed. Everyone votes. End. Cmon dawg, like no Adam isn't losing this but even if he is this is NOT the way you do versus threads. Its blatant farming.
Somehow. In someway, everyone in this thread forgot about Adam's soul and morality manipulation. Insanity...
I don't understand how this was added, its literally deemed a stomp with minimal arguments. Get it OUT of here.
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So, basically, th eonly one where the veredict was fine was against Kaneki? Perhaps also not a rule violation per say, but I question the usage of multiple characters from the same verse against the same opponent as, most often then not, the arguments are the same and nothing generally changes
 
Drite77 said:
So, basically, th eonly one where the veredict was fine was against Kaneki?
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It was considered a stomp and still added
Ebihara said:
Got an examples? I am not seeing that. I am just seeing some matchups that lacked proper support for him and could use more disscuion.
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Are we fr? King Minos didn’t even have any argument… like for either side 😭 Someone just said Minos skill diffs and then people started to have a random discussion about BFR which didn’t even matter the other one one starts off with Adam being slandered and Gabriel being glazed with the voting beginning right after with no actual debate

Ive been here long enough to see a spite when I see one (ts tuff or corny chat??)
 
ShionAH said:
with the voting beginning right after with no actual debate
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Yeah alot of matchups resolve with very little debate that should have more. I dont see anything that reaches the level of rule breaking personally. But if you feel it has escalated to that level then make a report I guess.
 
Drite77 said:
Right, I saw it wrong, meant to say V1 as it is the only one of Adam's 10 losses that is not there
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I don’t really understand V1 and his coin mechanics 😭

Tbh if all these gets removed V1 does basically the same thing so it should also be removed, let me add it with the rest of the Ultrakill ones
 
Drite77 said:
Perhaps also not a rule violation per say, but I question the usage of multiple characters from the same verse against the same opponent as, most often then not, the arguments are the same and nothing generally changes
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A lot of verses don't meet this, though yeah it is awfully funny to see happen, especially from knowledgeable supporters of the verses.
 
ShionAH said:
About Adam, while I was gone he got downgraded and then farmed... such a sad sight to see. Of course I'll save my KING!
So this will be a common explanation but like there was almost no debate, somone said Makima one shots and low diffs. Some people disagreed because of Adam's Holy Light being a game changer, right after people started voting Makima and it ended... Only like one guy talked about the matchup and he did that after the 5 votes were casted
  • Pochita (Chainsaw Man) Pochita's Profile ("Part 1" Pochita was used; High 7-C was restricted; Battle took place in Infinitely Sized Burger King; Distance is 20m; Speed was Equalized.
You can't make this up, first comment is a vote for Pochita. Like, not a single soul even debated how Adam can tank slashes due to his Immortality and when he takes even one he is going for Blasts. Either way its obviously spited.
This one ain't so bad but still the distance was clearly unfair for Adam yet nothing was changed, according to the votes this is also a stomp due to the distance
  • Yoru (Chainsaw Man) Yoru's Profile ("Post-Fear Boost" Yoru was used; Adam has Prior Knowledge; Battle took in Shibuya; Distance is 50m; Speed was Equalized.)
Again. First comment, vote. According to them Yoru just one shots off the bat... how is this like fair oh wait! He has knowledge now, that should change the entire bat- why is everyone voting Yoru without explanation. Wtf?
  • Ryomen Sukuna (Jujutsu Kaisen) Sukuna's Profile ("15 Finger" Sukuna was used; Sukuna's possible Soul Manipulation is allowed; Battle took place in the Hellaverse Hell's Pride Ring, near tye Hazbin Hotel; Distance is 75m; Speed was Equalized)
This one actually had debates and I can see this being okay to keep, my only problem is despite the later arguments about skill instead of going back at the start with these in mind people just voted Sukuna.
Atp this should be a rule violation, so the first comment is slandering Adam and glazing Gabriel. Someone says Gabriel can resist a heat thats way less than Adam's and then randomly people vote Gabriel, someone says Adam can win and its closed. Wow... what a fight huh?
This one is frying me, not a SINGLE argument in sight. First comment says, Adam gets skill diffed. Everyone votes. End. Cmon dawg, like no Adam isn't losing this but even if he is this is NOT the way you do versus threads. Its blatant farming.
Somehow. In someway, everyone in this thread forgot about Adam's soul and morality manipulation. Insanity...
I don't understand how this was added, its literally deemed a stomp with minimal arguments. Get it OUT of here.

Edit: V1 should be removed with the rest of the Ultrakill matchups, its the dane deal but it at least has an wincon specificed being the coin toss. No Adam supporter though.
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Note that 99% of the matches to be removed are from one person that thinks spamming this guy is a good ******* idea.
EDIT: I personally have nothing against spamming guys, but the titles do be obnoxious at times imo to the point it's mildly annoying.
Watch me be hypocritical when I end up spamming matches at some point too 👍
 
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Rematch Time: Genos v. Garou (GRACE)

Post-Elder Centipede Genos and Initial Half-Monster Garou are used. Ten Second Mode is restricted for Genos and speed is unequalized. Can Garou defeat Genos, or will his hero hunt end here? The Tornado of Terror’s Boyfriend: 1 (Kachon123) CAT GIRLS ARE RUINING MY LIFE: I don’t have a clever...
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There has been countless updates, change of stats and scaling since then. Most of the wincons seemingly changed as well.

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Chainsaw Devil (Chainsaw Man) vs Garou (One Punch Man)

Pochita is in his awakened key Garou is in hero hunter key SBA Speed Equal Pochita: @Robo432343 @Arkansalter2 @TheRadiantSoul @Hiiilt @BeastJam @Voidnether @MintyBoi1 Garou:
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Garou has no way of winning here. He can't do anything against High-Mid regen + Immortality (Types 1, 3, Enhanced 4, 6 & 8), especially in his Hero Hunter key.

Also the keys changed for Pochita, so not even sure where he scales in this but depending on the situation he's far above in stats as well.

I didn't watch Chainsaw Man, so i might be wrong about it though.
 
Ditto VS Goku needs to be removed from Son Goku's Profile

Saiyan Saga Goku is 5-A now, and according to this...
  • While inside the game it can transform into any Pokémon and copy exactly the stats, powers, attacks and appearance except the HP of the opponent, it is argued that Ditto rarely transforms into an opponent weaker than itself in combat. It is suggested that thread starters state the starting level/tier of Ditto. For reference, the current tier of Pikachu (one of the most notable starter Pokémon) is at most Low 7-B. If the thread starter wishes to set the floor tier of Ditto, the thread starter should state that in the starting thread and Pikachu will be the floor tier. However, the ceiling tier of Ditto should limit to the tier of Mew is 5-B.
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Ditto can't copy an opponent that's above Planet level.
 
NikHelton said:
Um, why? His opponent can fly, can keep Kaneki at bay for most of the fight
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He doesn't do that until later
NikHelton said:
, and has BFR.
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He didn't use it outside of Heaven and he is way too prideful to do that.
NikHelton said:
No one called it a stomp. A weaker version of Kaneki was used so he wouldn't use his skills to stomp.
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not a SINGLE argument was made for Adam btw. Op changed the version and everyone voted Kaneki.
 
ShionAH said:
He didn't use it outside of Heaven and he is way too prideful to do that
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He might use this when he sees that other attacks aren't working. They're both aiming to kill each other. He simply has no choice.
ShionAH said:
not a SINGLE argument was made for Adam btw. Op changed the version and everyone voted Kaneki.
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  • Keep in mind that just because a match is decisive, or even has a unanimous vote, does not automatically make it stomp.
You didn't even wait for the staff's consent and deleted the matches. That's not how it's done.
 
NikHelton said:
He might use this when he sees that other attacks aren't working. They're both aiming to kill each other. He simply has no choice.
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He would rather die lol. We see this on the show.
NikHelton said:
You didn't even wait for the staff's consent and deleted the matches. That's not how it's done.
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No one disagree with my takes after a while and seeing as the profiles were open and since the several staff I mentioned didn't respond I removed the very obvious farming that was taking in place. I also didn't remove them all because they were stomps, but they were clearly farms. Ant can come and take a look, I heavily doubt he will disagree with this case of farming.

all of them were posted by the same person, proving my point its a farm (all of them were clearly created just to have adam lose because holy not a single argument on sight)
 
ShionAH said:
He would rather die lol. We see this on the show.

No one disagree with my takes after a while and seeing as the profiles were open and since the several staff I mentioned didn't respond I removed the very obvious farming that was taking in place. I also didn't remove them all because they were stomps, but they were clearly farms. Ant can come and take a look, I heavily doubt he will disagree with this case of farming.

all of them were posted by the same person, proving my point its a farm (all of them were clearly created just to have adam lose because holy not a single argument on sight)
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In any case, you should wait for a response from moderators.

No one will apply the changes without this.
 
ShionAH said:
He would rather die lol. We see this on the show.

No one disagree with my takes after a while and seeing as the profiles were open and since the several staff I mentioned didn't respond I removed the very obvious farming that was taking in place. I also didn't remove them all because they were stomps, but they were clearly farms. Ant can come and take a look, I heavily doubt he will disagree with this case of farming.

all of them were posted by the same person, proving my point its a farm (all of them were clearly created just to have adam lose because holy not a single argument on sight)
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You can only remove obvious stomps like a 8-A fighting a 7-A or when "speed is unequalized" and one character is blitzing for a revision

But not because no one debated your post
 
They should be readded until a staff determines they should be removed.

Also someone (me) did say somthing about one of the matchups. This just seems like you are trying to remove losses for a charcter you like.
 
Ebihara said:
Yeah alot of matchups resolve with very little debate that should have more. I dont see anything that reaches the level of rule breaking personally. But if you feel it has escalated to that level then make a report I guess.
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What?? You clearly only said something about me reporting them and saying they were not spited. You also literally agreed with me saying they needed actual discussion before being added.

Anyways, like I said I am fine with getting them reverted by a mod who can also look into it if hopefully.

Edit: Actually I don't think this should be reverted, the fact that there was no discussion or arguments is enough to just count them as spited/unfair threads.
 
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  • Player (Elemental Battlegrounds) Player's Profile (Speed was equalized, Starting distance wad 50 meters, Adam was bloodlusted)
Same as others, Adam was getting stomped and then he was bloodlusted except no one tried to argue for him afterwards and the Player got voted and won. How is this even fair lol
 
ShionAH said:
Edit: Actually I don't think this should be reverted, the fact that there was no discussion or arguments is enough to just count them as spited/unfair threads.
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This is not up to you. And obviously you don't want them readded lol.
Tllmbrg said:
Done
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Would you mind reverting shions unauthorized changes and probaly locking the effected pages so they stop vandalzing them?


Maybe if you are unhappy with the results you should rerun the matches under these rules

An important piece of information or context was missed entirely or excluded from the debate.
A core argument of the previous debate is deemed invalid for some reason.

Instead of just removing matches with no disscuion (very ironic seeing as thats your listed reason for most of these lol) or without staff approval.
 
Ebihara said:
This is not up to you. And obviously you don't want them readded lol.
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Of course, you know its not fun when a profile you care for gets filled and farmed with debateless losses. Some of them end in the first message btw.
Ebihara said:
Would you mind reverting shions unauthorized changes and probaly locking the effected pages so they stop vandalzing them?
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I an not gonna continue vandalizing them because none of this was vandalism, I requested them to be removed. Saw that everyone agreed the fact that getting FRAd in the first message was dumb as shit, and I removed them since the profiles were unlocked. (After I reached out to several staff members)
Ebihara said:
Maybe if you are unhappy with the results you should rerun the matches under these rules
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Maybe I don’t want to remake 10 matches that were added just to spitefully farm the profile, maybe you and others should actually debate in the threads rather than voting like your life depends on it
Ebihara said:
An important piece of information or context was missed entirely or excluded from the debate.
A core argument of the previous debate is deemed invalid for some reason.
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Yes. Which is why they should be remade and removed for the time being
Ebihara said:
Instead of just removing matches with no disscuion (very ironic seeing as thats your listed reason for most of these lol) or without staff approval.
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Its ironic right, when I remove obviously spited match farms its all wrong oh noo 😭 but when people farm profiles with no debates you suddenly show up and say they are right? Entirely ironic right? 1-1, except you want it to be 1-0 and I already can guess why…

;)
 
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There haven't been staff here to deal with the mountain of requests since AUGUST 7TH. I think Shion's well within his rights to just remove the matches when it's quite clear the entire staff team give 0 FDA-certified ***** about this thread unless it's their match.
 
I dont care eitherway about any of the charcters in these matchups and I dont think I voted in any of these matchups but I do care that you are in effect just removing matchups from profiles that aren't obvious stomps or rule breaking and calling things spite matches when they arent. Low quality matchups arent excatly grounds for removal if they were so so many more matches would be removed or never added..

(I think that not every matchup conducted should be added to profiles as not every matchup is "noteable" but thats a differnt issue entirely)


You are in effect just removing matchups from profiles cause you dont like the results of a charcter you like losing. Thats what this has boiled down to. You not liking your charcter losing.

Not every matchup is going to falicate or need pages of disscuions. Some are going to be obvious winners without being stomps.

If in the end these matchups get removed I wont lose any sleep but it needs to be done in the proper way.. and I know staff have neglected this thread but breaking the rules cause they arent enforced isnt good either. This is the last time ill comment on this. The versus thread part of the site is obviously neglected and we need staff dedicated to monitoring it. I know it probaly falls under thread mod duties but they just dont?
 
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I don’t like Adam losing? I made four matches with Adam when he was 7-A and I think he lost like half of them, I am fine with Adam losing when its a fair loss. In some of these the first vote against Adam IS THE FIRST MESSAGE IN THE THREAD.

It is quite absurd to say this is fine.
 
DaReaperMan said:
There haven't been staff here to deal with the mountain of requests since AUGUST 7TH. I think Shion's well within his rights to just remove the matches when it's quite clear the entire staff team give 0 FDA-certified ***** about this thread unless it's their match.
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Literally

At least he gave reasons, when I did the same for Shinji Castorice at least try to defend the non removal, with Adam, no one did that
I don't know how much time he waited but the fanbase should defend her characters at bare minimun, and one staff should be here
 
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Johnny Test vs Akame (cause me bored)

The WWE purge CRT is taking its sweet ass time to conclude, so I feel like going back to my old roots by making a random JT match. I thought this one would be pretty cool to do ig, mainly because these two are named after the show they're in. Johnny Test (Johnny Test) vs Akame (Akame Ga KIll!)...
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Johnny Test vs Fil Necati (2 lucky toons)

Both of them are High 8-C and at base, Johnny has his equipment Speed is equalized so Necati doesnt blitz. Test: Fil: 7 (@Da3ggman, @RandomGuy2345, @ShionAH @Artorimachi_Meteoraft, @Larssx, @Yaozin, @Barbar01 )
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These matches need to be removed. Johnny vs Akame is no longer valid due to Johnny being 6-C as opposed to 7-A, and Johnny vs Fil Necati is invalid due to Johnny's High 8-C tier being removed.
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Removed.

Robo432343 said:
Due to the DKD revisions this match can be removed
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Akuto Sai Vs. Lucifer Morningstar (DKD vs DC Comics)

A battle between two demon kings who, unsatisfied with what fate had in store for them, chose to go beyond: One by destroying the gods' system, the other by escaping his father's grand plan. Who’s the true strongest Demon? - - - Akuto Sai (The Afterlife) vs Lucifer Morningstar - - - Both...
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Removed.
 
ShionAH said:
Ryomen Sukuna (Jujutsu Kaisen) Sukuna's Profile ("15 Finger" Sukuna was used; Sukuna's possible Soul Manipulation is allowed; Battle took place in the Hellaverse Hell's Pride Ring, near tye Hazbin Hotel; Distance is 75m; Speed was Equalized)
This one actually had debates and I can see this being okay to keep, my only problem is despite the later arguments about skill instead of going back at the start with these in mind people just voted Sukuna.
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this matchup should've stayed, it was genuinely valid and I had no intention of farming "your king" (althose I agree the others had to go)
Edit: Wait a minute, your only problem with my Matchup is that, despite arguments for Adam, he still lost (people voted with the arguments in mind). That's crazy
 
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Anonymous_Learner said:
Wait a minute, your only problem with my Matchup is that, despite arguments for Adam, he still lost (people voted with the arguments in mind). That's crazy
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No its clear people wanted to make Adam lose lol, if Sukuna has the skill to not get hit once like some of yall were implying then its not even fair (domain diff). Afterwards people said that Sukuna DOESN’T have this kind of skill but then some people said he DID and then coincidentally people voted Sukuna and ended it. Hmmm, tf is that?? Are you serious?
 
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