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Versus General Discussion Thread | New series by ONE

I disagree with the speed at which Kiva deflects the beam. Light cannot bend like that, but when Kiva deflects it, the light bends. It shouldn't be at the speed of light.
This has nothing to do with me. The calculation was accepted and accepted calculations are placed on the verse page. If you want to review the use of SoL for the calculation that is with a crt.
 
Peak Versus. One of my favorite chapters so far. I def didn't expect the Madalan's to have something like that up their sleeves, and seeing Jachi still able to keep up is sick. We def have a better idea of the powerscaling with this as well. And wow seeing a verse potentially jump up from like 6-C or something to potentially 5-B in literally the first arc is crazy. Seems like a genuine black hole creation feat. Fitting since they're the space guys.

If this is 5-B, would it be fair to assume other Demon Lords are 5-B, or should we wait for more definitive scaling as we don't know how they compare to Jachi?
 
Peak Versus. One of my favorite chapters so far. I def didn't expect the Madalan's to have something like that up their sleeves, and seeing Jachi still able to keep up is sick. We def have a better idea of the powerscaling with this as well. And wow seeing a verse potentially jump up from like 6-C or something to potentially 5-B in literally the first arc is crazy. Seems like a genuine black hole creation feat. Fitting since they're the space guys.

If this is 5-B, would it be fair to assume other Demon Lords are 5-B, or should we wait for more definitive scaling as we don't know how they compare to Jachi?
Honestly, i feel like the demon lords are somewhat relative, but so far nothing is concrete other than the Great Demon King being above them
 
now this just makes me wonder if the kaiju would scale considering Kiva thought the mother ship was a threat to the great demon king, which would make it demon king level at least
 
As I understand it, Uki created a genuine black hole for a few seconds to pull Jachi in to combo him then deactivated it and threw the black sphere at Jachi
Pretty insane. I wonder what method they use to make black holes. Like is it just an innate ability they have? Being able to casually make a black hole just to pull someone in is ridiculous lmao. And what does deactivated mean in this context? Like did he somehow REMOVE the gravitational properties?

Edit: Looks like the Madalan used one of its spheres to make the black hole then simply reverted it back to normal.
 
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The black hole itself may have no right of way because it has a surface.
I think you misplaced the spoiler tags., need to have the text between them.

But on closer inspection, it looks like the Madalan created the black hole using one of it's spheres, then simply "turned off" the black hole effect, reducing it back to a regular sphere, when throwing it at Jachi.
 
Okay, I rarely use this word, but reading the chapter again after work, my GOD JACHI HAS AURA. Like both literally and metaphorically. Seeing him just casually get up after being attacked with a black hole and walk towards the Madalan like a badass is genuinely sick.

This guy is LITERALLY a DBZ villain. Even the way he flies is potentially inspired by Frieza who I vividly recall flying with his arms crossed just like that.

Like I figured the Demon Lords wouldn't be jobbers but I did not think Jachi would be this strong. It definitely gives me the impression that Kiva underestimated his own leaders tbh.
 
Looking back, this makes a LOT more sense.
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WAIT. WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT. IF JACHI IS SCALED TO 5-B, THEN HOLLOW WOULD DOWNSCALE FROM THAT? No surely this would be considered invalid since a few pages after this the sword literally breaks on him. Even if applicable it would be an outlier. Def jumping the gun on there but hey the scaling potential EXISTS if nothing else.

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ฉันคิดว่าคุณวางแท็กสปอยเลอร์ผิดที่ ควรมีข้อความอยู่ระหว่างนั้น

แต่เมื่อพิจารณาดูอย่างใกล้ชิด ดูเหมือนว่ามาดาลันได้สร้างหลุมดำขึ้นมาโดยใช้ทรงกลมลูกหนึ่ง จากนั้นก็เพียงแค่ "ปิด" เอฟเฟกต์หลุมดำโดยลดขนาดลงเหลือเป็นทรงกลมปกติอีกครั้ง เมื่อโยนมันไปที่จาชี
When the English translation comes out, I'll try calculating the creation and throwing of black holes.
 
When the English translation comes out, I'll try calculating the creation and throwing of black holes.
Alright. Based on eyeballing it the size of a black hole like that would def be in planetary-dwarf star ranges I believe. But maybe there's details we're not aware of.
 
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WAIT. WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT. IF JACHI IS SCALED TO 5-B, THEN HOLLOW WOULD DOWNSCALE FROM THAT? No surely this would be considered invalid since a few pages after this the sword literally breaks on him. Even if applicable it would be an outlier. Def jumping the gun on there but hey the scaling potential EXISTS if nothing else.

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He could, at best, massively downscale, and I believe the scaling is directly from the sword itself.
 
I'm iffy on scaling the Sword of Courage to Jachi, although he basically took no damage from the black hole while the sword did a small scratch so there's that. Mostly bcs Kiva can somewhat parry some slashes albeit he is vastly inferior
 
We can just add "far higher against Demons with Sword of Courage" and that is it. No need to think so much about it.
 
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Probably. But so far its kinda headcannony
The only thing we know is that when Hallow focusses in a battle, he can use more power and his sword is dependant on willpower and magic
 
Probably. But so far its kinda headcannony
The only thing we know is that when Hallow focusses in a battle, he can use more power and his sword is dependant on willpower and magic
I mean Jachi does say in chapter 1 that those swords were made to actually injure Demon Lords after Hallow grazed him with it
 
yea, and so far its only anti feat is Kiva being able to parry some of its slashes. But honestly we can just fix by slapping a Varies tier to the sword since we know that its power is dependant on Hallow's Magic, Willpower and Focus
 
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