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Versus General Discussion Thread | New series by ONE
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I think that the main page's quote could be changed to the "Natural Enemies" line since its the main quote of the series and the most iconic IMO.
Also I do think we should use the official English names since these will be the ones that most people will associate with, and are the currently official ones used
Also I do think we should use the official English names since these will be the ones that most people will associate with, and are the currently official ones used
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put the line of natural enemies here.
About the names, I'm not good enough at editing to change the name in the photo (in fact I just have to do that)
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Daikokuzan
7-C possibly 7-B
Because it says that government weapons cannot do anything to it.
Madalans
Low 7-C possibly 7-C
After seeing Daikokuzan withstand the explosion, he still believes that his own body is stronger.
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Daikokuzan is at least 7-A considering Kiva shat himself when he saw the Madalan Mothership showing up to the point he went "Gotta tell Jachi we found something that matches the Great Demon Lord", while he didn't feel the same in regards to the Robot's super laser beam that cut through a hill that is 7-A
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That's not really clear enough. There's no indication that the robot's laser can scale with the spaceship's durability. It's probably just the attack power.
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Kiva didnt really know what the ship could do other than it being massive and colossal in size, he had no idea how powerful the canons are. For him, it was more because of the stature of the warship. So I feel like it would be fair to at least scale the Madalan's mothership to the Robot's laser since he was not at all impressed by it like he was by the Madalan's spacecrafts
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He looks 200% a DB villain
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Iaian Junior
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Versus: Madaran Ship Explodes
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6-C Daikokuzan
Versus: Galua's Sonic Boom Shockwave
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Supporting Low 7-C+ feat for the Madarans
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It is. But at least that's a 2x increase.
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EmeraldBR/sandboxVersus
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Put it in the sandboxVersus: Madaran Ship Explodes
6-C Daikokuzan
Versus: Galua's Sonic Boom Shockwave
Supporting Low 7-C+ feat for the Madarans
Don't you want to create the verse page and add the profiles for use right away?
To avoid losing calculations that have not yet been accepted, place them in the OP of this general discussion.
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Justifications feel too shaky.
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Why? Pakkya is shown being able to harm Hallow and Kiva, he took a hit from Kiva and was considered a capable fighter like Hallow
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I mean, narratively I think they are meant to be somewhat comparable as they will seemingly be paired up for a while but I think it's clear that Hallow is stronger and even more so if he is focused like against Kiva.
Maybe an "at most" will work? He did make him bleed with a headbutt though Hallow didn't flinch at all
Maybe an "at most" will work? He did make him bleed with a headbutt though Hallow didn't flinch at all
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I dont think an At most is necessary. They make it clear that he’s around Hallow’s level, its not like he downscales that much to the point of having an at most. Like making Hallow bleed is enough to scale to him, and Kiva thinking he is impressive as well and tanking/harming him
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He makes Hallow bleed when the latter is already extremely exhausted and he still takes on the attack rather casually. Even before all this he almost crushed Pakkya's arm without much effort. So scaling Pakkya to full-power focused Hallow doesn't make sense. Even the man himself indirectly puts Hallow on somewhat of a pedestal when talking about Gigatilla. Besides a random attack from base Kiva was already enough to heavily injure Pakkya. If he is going to scale, he would scale to base Kiva at most.
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He isn't "extremely exhausted," because that isn't stated until the next chapter, and SPECIFICALLY in reference to him having fought an army, and him literally bleeding from a headbutt while the guy headbutting him is unnaffected speaks for itself. They're both shown sweating the same amount a few pages later.
Somewhat, but he's just saying a guy that scales an unknown amount higher than him is probably stronger than Hallow, that can be argued as a minimal distance at best.
Wow, a shot to the back with an energy attack while he was off-guard and exhausted did damage? That's crazy, imagine if he stood back up in the next chapter and it was just a big burn with bleeding and he was still ready to fight.
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That's exactly what he had been doing until Pakkya came.
You know, Pakkya is the one striking. Of course, it will be Hallow who bleeds. It is not like people suffer themselves when punching someone.
Using their strongest guy for comparison isn't minimal distance.
The last time I checked, Pakkya's back wasn't some kind of weak spot. And Pakkya wasn't as nearly exhausted as Hallow. It barely should have made a difference.
Did you want the attack to turn him into a red paste or something? All that injury happened from an 8-C attack. No way Pakkya is low 7-C.
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Note how he only says he's tired in the next chapter. He says he's weaker than when they fought before due to defending against the army. The entirety of his defense against the army did not take place within the time between them fighting and him being headbutted.
Yeah.
Yes, they do. Besides, go headbutt someone in the head, tell me how it feels.
He says he's probably stronger, and for all we know, he's the second strongest.
He was shot from behind while looking forward and moving forward, and he fell forward due to an attack that pushed him forward. I don't see the issue.
Not my point.
If it was enough to oneshot him, he wouldn't have gotten back up almost immediately.
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But a significant amount of it took place there. It is also by far the most significant part considering he gets supported by the rest of humanity for the rest of the fight after getting headbutted.
I have done a lot of headbutting in my childhood. The other party usually suffers far more.
That's a huge stretch but fine.
The isssue is that fact that he got heavily injured not the fact that he fell.
But my point.
When did I say that it was enough to one-shot him? I already said that I am fine with Pakkya scaling to base Kiva. It is Low 7-C that I have problem with. Someone who got injured to that extent from 8-C would be instantly vaporized by Low 7-C
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Yeah? Well, how's it gonna feel if the opponent is significantly superior to you?
It's not at all a huge stretch. This guy could be anywhere from a miniscule amount to an infinite amount stronger than him, he's just stronger.
Wow, the giant fireball burned him? Crazy. If he was heavily injured, he wouldn't be getting up that quickly, and he would be struggling much more once he did. Plus, the attack had high enough heat to burn him, the raw power wasn't the only source of damage.
Does Base Kiva scale to 8-C while Hallow is Tier 7?
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How long's that wait again?
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idk. I am pretty sure the initial plan was to release the profiles by chapter 10.
Sure, it’s strange. There’s nothing that indicates the bomb is just floating in the sky alone.
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For me, it should be the lowest and best calculation.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Boll8011/Madalans_ship_exploded
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Ah. Reckon it has to do with how they keep pumping out new characters?
I disagree with the speed at which Kiva deflects the beam. Light cannot bend like that, but when Kiva deflects it, the light bends. It shouldn't be at the speed of light.
It should be like that.It should be like that.
