Vegeta VS Captain Marvel (0-0-0)

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Namek Saga Vegeta Stomps with a Telekinetic Explosion spawned inside of her.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

If it's saiyan saga Vegeta. I'll say Carol more often than not. She can physically compete with him, absorb his ranged attacks and just hax for the win. Vegeta outdoes her in skill but when a person just needs to get one good grab on your head and end the fight...If Vegeta goes oozaru than it's incon because it comes down to if he can get a solid hit versus Carol draining him.

Going with Carol FRA. Vegeta winning via one move he used twice in his entire life seems like a stretch

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Namek Saga Vegeta Stomps with a Telekinetic Explosion spawned inside of her.

Vegeta used the dirty fireworks only twice in the entire series. Seems pretty ooc for him to feasably use it in that battle, let alone start with it

 

[SlendVeny]

Going with Carol FRA. Vegeta winning via one move he used twice in his entire life seems like a stretch

At this point, he'd used it more than Galick Gun.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Vegeta used the dirty fireworks only twice in the entire series. Seems pretty ooc for him to feasably use it in that battle, let alone start with it

It's literally his go to attack for dealing with Fodder in the early Namek Saga.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Yeah Vegeta didn’t even use Dirty Fireworks when he was utterly pissed against Goku, nor the several fights where he got his ass kicked on Namek

 

[SlendVeny]

Yeah Vegeta didn’t even use Dirty Fireworks when he was utterly pissed against Goku, nor the several fights where he got his ass kicked on Namek

And that's why he lost.

 

[The_Impress]

And that's why he lost.

...because it's an OOC move, yes, used against those nowhere comparable to base Vegeta in AP, twice across the entire series and never again.

 

[The_Impress]

Yeah the scaling chain works, but honestly, I see no reason to change Vegeta's key because of Carol's absorption and haxes. Namek Saga Vegeta can be used here

Because again even something as basic as a 2x per step assumed means Carol gets oneshot here before absorbing anything (we're supposed to fix that later date, but not rn).

It's a stomp. In general if you're arguing shit like "point and oneshot", which is Dirty Fireworks, it's a stomp too.

 

[SlendVeny]

...because it's an OOC move, yes, used against those nowhere comparable to base Vegeta in AP, twice across the entire series and never again.

He only used Galick Gun once at this point. All his moves are OOC this early on.

 

[The_Impress]

He only used Galick Gun once at this point. All his moves are OOC this early on.

Yeah and? Don't see how this is relevant, sounds more like you have a character who has no real standard tactics and by sheer amount of shit he does the probability of it being Dirty Fireworks is next to nothing.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

I think this is a mismatch. It's not really fair either way.

 

[SlendVeny]

Yeah and? Don't see how this is relevant, sounds more like you have a character who has no real standard tactics and by sheer amount of shit he does the probability of it being Dirty Fireworks is next to nothing.

He has like 3 good attacks. He will use the one that he knows works.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Because again even something as basic as a 2x per step assumed means Carol gets oneshot here before absorbing anything (we're supposed to fix that later date, but not rn).

But the thing is that you can't assume these amps. These are unquantifyable and nothing in canon said they were two times increases

 

[The_Impress]

He has like 3 good attacks. He will use the one that he knows works.

He didn't against Goku, the single guy who matched him, which considering the non-wonk AP of Saiyan Saga Vegeta, is what'll play out.

Are you gonna invent personality traits for Vegeta now? When has he EVER been this hyper rational dude who will go for his best moves right away and not midway through the battle? And even then he has NEVER used ******* Dirty Fireworks as a response.

This is laughable wank.

 

[The_Impress]

But the thing is that you can't assume these amps. These are unquantifyable and nothing in canon said they were two times increases

...you know what, I'll get this clarified in a thread. Because this logic I don't know has ever been specifed in rules.

 

[Quantu]

Hold on which saga Vegeta is being used again?

EDIT: nvm

Carol FRA

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

He has like 3 good attacks. He will use the one that he knows works.

Vegeta primarily employs hand-to-hand combat and generic unnamed Ki blasts for the large majority of his fights. Special movies like Galick Gun are used as last ditch efforts or finishers.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

...you know what, I'll get this clarified in a thread. Because this logic I don't know has ever been specifed in rules.

Alright then

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

generic unnamed Ki blasts

Slash Swing

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Slash Swing

Where is that attack called that?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Where is that attack called that?

Dokkan