Vecna vs Abel

[Overlord775]

Since Vecna defeated Nanashi, let's see if he can defeat the arguably strongest SMT 2-A

Both 2-A and Speed equalized

Jack: 7 (Bambu), Zachary, Setsuna, Stalker, Lawiegg, Shadow, Edward)

Kazuya: 0

Inconclusive: 0

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I've been told all of these guys have 1-C hax

Like I can type "Vecna thinks and uses really good haxxums, super good, yes yes" but that doesn't matter if the other side is just "1-C gg"

 

[Overlord775]

No, those with 1-C hax are the characters from DeSu:2, this is DeSu:1's protagonist

 

[Mr. Bambu]

so nobody in SMT 2-A has 1-C hax?

alright then I guess I just need an answer to Vecna's precog, probability hax that says he goes first, and then mentally activating whatever hax works for D&D. So like. Ye.

 

[Schnee_One]

Vecna thinks

 

[Ionliosite]

so nobody in SMT 2-A has 1-C hax?

Nanashi has High 1-C hax, it's just that he doesn't use it in-character on that key.

 

[Ionliosite]

Also, how is probability manipulation working on Abel? Doesn't he resist that?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Probability manipulation is the same as all other abilities. Scaling chain. Basically it works like each god has that probability manip saying "I go first, I do the highest amount of damage, so on and so forth". Then each god of higher ranks has their probability manip outweigh that of the lower gods, so the stronger god always goes first.

Vecna is the strongest god, in his 2-A key. The only one ever to reach Divine Rank 20.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Strongest god

LOP: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9vJhwOCgYxE

 

[Ionliosite]

Doesn't the resistance scaling chain in SMT start with 8-C characters? I think that's a way better chain than Vecna's.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

<Strongest god
LOP: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9vJhwOCgYxE

She ain't a god, whatever she is.

@Ionliosite if we're including 3-D characters then start with the 9-Bs, I guess? If we're starting with the 4-D hax people and not the actual gods then start with 6-C's like Imbrar Helthar.

 

[Overlord775]

bump

 

[MYHERO]

"Since Vecna defeated Nanashi, let's see if he can defeat the arguably strongest SMT 2-A"


Wut

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

Nanashi, Flynn and Aleph: Exist.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Nanashi, Flynn and Aleph: Exist.

vecna already beat nanashi so flyn and aleph are not going to a problem for him.

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

But Aleph is considered solidly stronger than Nanashi on the site since he killed YHVH and Flynn is very much above Lucifer. And how would Abel be stronger than Nanashi? Or any of the 3 mentioned?

 

[Overlord775]

Arguably strongest 2-A SMT, not High 2-A

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

True but how is Abel stronger than the 2-As Nanashi and Flynn?

 

[Overlord775]

Muh Regen and Immortality

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

That's not bad but he's still alot weaker than both of them in AP. Actually Dagda is a thing so yeah

 

[MYHERO]

Regen and immortality doesn't mean much when you can negate their immortalities. I mean no one says that Demifiend can stalemate Aleph because of that.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

That's not bad but he's still alot weaker than both of them in AP. Actually Dagda is a thing so yeah

Vecna mindhaxed Dagda in the fight with Nanashi though.

If nobody is gonna defend I guess I vote Vecna via using literally any hax in D&D by thinking. Take your pick from mind, death, paralysis, perception, body puppetry, soul, EE, sealing, BFR, so on and so forth. Hey, maybe he can incap then chuck them into the Far Realm. That'll be fun.

 

[MYHERO]

Mindhax are for *******

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Mindhax are for ******* </div>

gun > mindhax

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Mindhax are for ******* </div>

I didn't say Vecna was brave

I said he could do it

you want bravery, go to a guy like Moradin

whose main thing is just hitting you with a hammer and smacking people with bits of earth

 

[MYHERO]

I'm not just talking about you're precious Vecna.

Looks at Homura

 

[Qawsedf234]

The only one ever to reach Divine Rank 20

As a minor note Bambu, canon wise we know of one other Divine Rank 20 God. She's the monotheistic God of an alt-multiverse in 3E named Taiia. The Brahamin may also count but I'm not 100% with him.

As for Vecna he totally doesn't fight fair. Like if there's an underhanded or quick way to end a fight he'll 100% do it.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I'm not just talking about you're precious Vecna.
Looks at Homura

forgive me for assuming you were talking about the dude in this actual fight, my lord, I shall go to a flagellation session to ensure I do not usurp my position accidentally, verily may you rise in might and wisdom until even the heavens cannot contain your greatness, etc etc etc

@Qawsed I... didn't know that. Still, Divine Rank 20 is sorta a big deal. I don't remember seeing any actual concrete rank for Brahman so RIP him I guess.

 

[Overlord775]

>Bumbu doesn't know something about D&D

Is this the first sign of the apocalypse ?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

nah homie. Like I've said, I'd be generous in saying I've read about 10% of all content for D&D. Big verse full of little tidbits of information that may or may not be hugely relevant. Plus new stuff is literally being made all the time.

 

[Overlord775]

Ok, then we need 9 more Bambus to get trought the rest of the contents

 

[Mr. Bambu]

good idea

alternatively just get three Qawseds since he is omniscient

 

[MYHERO]

forgive me for assuming you were talking about the dude in this actual fight, my lord, I shall go to a flagellation session to ensure I do not usurp my position accidentally, verily may you rise in might and wisdom until even the heavens cannot contain your greatness, etc etc etc

I was talking about him though. It's just that I was referring to multiple characters as well. But do not fret, I forgive thee.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

thank ye father

also can we get either points in favor of Abel or votes for Vecna, don't truly care which just we haven't gotten this show on the road yet

 

[MYHERO]

Yobo get your ass over here!

 

[Yobo_Blue]

aight

What stops auto activated reflect?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Jack FRA

 

[MYHERO]

>Asks how Vecna can bypass some of Abel's passives

>Gets met with an FRA

Top kek

 

[Mr. Bambu]

aight
What stops auto activated reflect?

literally resisting attack reflection. spell turning and superior powers exist.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Vecna fra