CosmicWreck
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If you were to insert your favourite characters into Shin Megami Tensei what race and species would they be?
I got the idea for this thread when I was making a fanfic (sadly, very little good SCP fanfics exist, including on the site itself though I guess whether or not crossover tales can be considered fanfics are up for debate) and I've kind of been fascinated by how diverse the race and species categories are as well as how they have their own characteristics.
I kind of just created this to share my thoughts on what the race and species of Swann entities would be if they were considered a "demon" you can fuse or even an enemy or "playable character".
For example:
Finally in summary: God-Slayer>=Stars>Chaos King>Human>Vile.
I got the idea for this thread when I was making a fanfic (sadly, very little good SCP fanfics exist, including on the site itself though I guess whether or not crossover tales can be considered fanfics are up for debate) and I've kind of been fascinated by how diverse the race and species categories are as well as how they have their own characteristics.
I kind of just created this to share my thoughts on what the race and species of Swann entities would be if they were considered a "demon" you can fuse or even an enemy or "playable character".
For example:
SCP 001 Proposal (Swann)
Possible Species
- Human
Possible Races
- Stars: Based on the typology of narrative dimensions in SCP 6747 where Swann was closer to the 6th stories described as constellations. This is the race of system administrators alien entities like Canopus and Polaris in devil survivor 2. I believe this is the closest race to author entities narratively speaking as there are instances where humans become system administrators and instances where they even managed to be both at the same time. Personally, I do find this one to be rather boring though, both in terms of nomenclature and portrayals (although stars exist as both human and divine existences, there are almost no interesting/meaningful comparisons or correlations between them such that I would find it annoying trying to merge them in one character or even to write)
- Chaos King/King of Chaos/Chaos: Demi-fiend's race, basically based on SCP 3999 who declared itself a chaos god and SCP 4010 where author entity analogues were necessary to bring back other SCPs by generating enough chaos. Also fits in with the whole "greater the layer the greater the freedom one has" motif that is a pretty chaotic point of view from an SMT standpoint. It sounds the coolest to me but it is a bit narratively unsatisfying compared to the Stars race albeit not by much.
- Human: Self-explanatory. Not only the species but also the race should be human. Easiest option and also, to me, the most boring. It would kind of ignore all the "true gods compared to other known SCP gods that are comparatively still limited" motif that exist in SCP 3812 and the mythology surrounding author entities particularly pointed out in Place's Tales. If I wanted this I would have picked any other meta verse to write about tbh. Either way, pretty low on the ranking.
- Vile: The race of "evil" gods, or at least the ones that prefer to rule out of fear. My least favourite race to put them in as it's kind of a "dark-law" alignment, some SCP Foundation employees and their families pray/give thanks to them in a tale and IHP Proposal specifically says they're not evil so the only reason I would possibly use this designation if I wanted to make my fanfiction as edgy as possible in opposition to accuracy (Ps I don't). Sometimes author entities do give this kind of feeling though, with SCP 5466 creating innate feelings of disgust and SCP 3999 derivative tales where they are the direct source of suffering for normal characters or even SCP 5500 where they were unintentional catalysts for multiversal annihilation in more ways than one, so not as inaccurate as I first thought.
- God-Slayers: Also one of the easiest. Godslayers can be humans, but they can also be their own distinct race. They are the destination of the gods where their goal ideas are manifested in them. This fits into the motif of lower entities and worlds being created to act out the imaginations of the author entities. In the SMT4A interview they are likened to puppets, just as author entities puppet lower entities but free will is also important. Dagda stated without free will godslayers cannot use their true power, just as author entities enjoy having a free will compared to lower entities. In the SMT 4A interview the entire story was considered to be meta so it should probably be even higher. I might go with this simply because it's cooler than "stars" and SMT4A is one of my favourites (sorry SMT Strange Journey/Redux).
Finally in summary: God-Slayer>=Stars>Chaos King>Human>Vile.
Possible Alignments
- Light Chaos: They are light because the Foundation believes they are fundamental to their existence and in SCP 5500 they were necessary for worlds to survive. Chaos because they are more in control or have free will than those below them. See Chaos King for more details.