Genshin 4A downgrade...

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The fake sky is the barrier primordial one made on the planet, the sky shroud in which stars are hung. There are multiple statements of these stars being meteorites. The planet highest altitude is light years away? Mona words aren't credible here since she doesn't know much about fake sky. But we know more becuz it has been hinted in item lore, boss lore, books several times. Each star in fake sky holds the fate of each person in Teyvat. That's how Astrologers divine. That's why Mona instantly know Simulanka is based on Teyvat just by looking at stars. Star as meteorite is still not fake star? And wdym fake sky is a different dimension???? It's literally a layer over the planet. A barrier.
Moreover Simulanka is fictional and has a clear R>F feat. You should clear that first before arguing about stars being real or not.

The travelers used to be interstellar travelers. We know that this all happened inside of Teyvat because only one of them is a descender. The sky is fake, but that does not make it small.

 

[Weaver261]

The travelers used to be interstellar travelers. We know that this all happened inside of Teyvat because only one of them is a descender. The sky is fake, but that does not make it small.

I think you guys are misunderstanding something about Fake sky on a basic level. I'm not saying all stars in genshin are fake. The fake one are the one on the barrier. The real one still exist beyond the barrier and most of them are dying one by one. That's what Primordial One didn't want people to know that Cosmo is ending soon. Travelers came from outerspace beyon the barrier, that's why they have seen real stars unlike Teyvat natives.

 

[GarrixianXD]

If the realm is even fictional and the fact that R>F has been a concerning subject for this the entire time, then obviously it doesn't work.

R>F yet the world is claimed to be fictional, yet, the Traveller has to put in effort to killing the enemies within those realms, and there's a health bar and it can decrease, meaning Traveller can also die to those enemies

 

[Weaver261]

there's a health bar and it can decrease, meaning Traveller can also die to those enemies

What happened when you die? Didn't you simply respawn??? lol Are you even serious about debating at this point

 

[GarrixianXD]

What happened when you die? Didn't you simply respawn??? lol Are you even serious about debating at this point

I genuinely can't take you seriously, no offence.

Anyways, this explanation should help you:

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Respawning or not, those enemies even being able to inflict harm upon Traveller absolutely disqualifies any possibility of R>F.

 

[Breakdown]

I think you guys are misunderstanding something about Fake sky on a basic level. I'm not saying all stars in genshin are fake. The fake one are the one on the barrier. The real one still exist beyond the barrier and most of them are dying one by one. That's what Primordial One didn't want people to know that Cosmo is ending soon. Travelers came from outerspace beyon the barrier, that's why they have seen real stars unlike Teyvat natives.

Only one of the Travellers is a descender. The other is a Teyvat native.

 

[DivinumAeterna]

If the realm is even fictional and the fact that R>F has been a concerning subject for this the entire time, then obviously it doesn't work.

R>F yet the world is claimed to be fictional, yet, the Traveller has to put in effort to killing the enemies within those realms, and there's a health bar and it can decrease, meaning Traveller can also die to those enemies

It's a videogame. The player character has to put in effort and time along with having a risk of defeat to obtain the rewards - basic game mechanics. If it was easy then Hoyo wouldn't profit. Or do you want to start upscaling Hydro Slimes to Sovereign tier because one of them could punk my Neuvilette in there?

Maybe if your argument depicted said enemies actually inflicting lasting injuries on the Traveler that had effect on their body outside the fictional worlds in the story or narrative, it could be valid. But this isn't it. There's nothing to indicate that Imaginarium isn't just the equivalent of a VR adventure just done with witch magic.

 

[Weaver261]

Only one of the Travellers is a descender. The other is a Teyvat native.

What? It's has been already stated that not all outlanders are descenders. Those who have enough will to rival an entire world are considered as Descender. This description also stated that Traveler sibilings are ruler of an entire world before which is clearly outside of Teyvat.

Respawning or not, those enemies even being able to inflict harm upon Traveller absolutely disqualifies any possibility of R>F.

I don't know much about rules regarding that. We should get expert input on that matter. But I think going inside the fiction can equalize both. It's the same as playing VR. you can get an avatar inside that can interact with the world. But you are unharmed irl. Kirara is the avatar or echo is the cat that Mage like to pet. It's stated here that all life in Simulanka must comform with the image created by the Mage. It's clear that they are adjusted in some way. This is about Simulanka. And for the Imaginarium Theatre, it's just gameplay stages and performance. There's no real life threatening danger because it's fictional.

 

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Your scan is talking about how the sibling is the ruler of the Abyss Order.

 

[Weaver261]

Your scan is talking about how the sibling is the ruler of the Abyss Order.

How how how in the world does this mean sibling is the ruler of Abyss order???????? You really should reread that or watch youtube videos explaining it.

Once, (‍she/he‍) had been a scion of a lost glorious kingdom, bearing the weight of an entire world. But in (‍her/his‍) brief life, (‍she/he‍) had sensed the goodwill of those who lived here, and so had shouldered the pillar of the earth, going from the ruler of a world to the hope of but a single nation.