UPGRADE ATTACK POTENCY 4A (GENSHIN IMPACT)

[Furina003]

Also I don't think Light sources are evidences of High 4-C Star Level or whatever, cause the Sun thingy in Adeptal Realms can easily be akin to the Dainichi Mikoshi in Enkanomiya and not necessarily an Actual Star

please differentiate Adeptus realm and enkanomiya.

enkanomiya is just a plain that fell into the black sea due to the war the phanes and the second who came. Dainichi Mikosi is a tool created by Aberaku who was assisted by Istaroth.

while the Adeptus realm is the world of the Adeptus, which was created using energy from the Adeptus. it is even explained that this world is an boundless world.

so it is not impossible that the world has its own sun.

 

[Weaver261]

The problem I'm having with this crt is not about creating realms but having real stars and suns. Even the primordial one didn't create any actual stars. Primordial One used metroites, hung them in the barrier and called it sky. Although they are called stars, they are not actual stars. Imaginarium therater creation feats also iffy since it's inside a book. Same with simulanka. Also 4-A scaling for vision holders and archons is also inconsistent with the actual lore. And Elemental Energy as UES also kinda wrong since elemental energy has likely two versions. The version Dragons used before Primordial One's arrival and the version Primordial One divided the phlogiston. Again, elemental energy is only native to Teyvat planet and doesn't not applied to outside universe.

4-A rating for stars needs scans for the suns and stars being real. Mind that realm being real doesn't mean stars are real too. With this logic, you can say "just becuz teyvat is real, the stars on the barrier must be real". Pretty wanky don't you think? It has to mention directly about the stars being actual stars.
Leyline flowing with elemental energy and changing the world is also talking about changing just only the teyvat planet.

 

[Furina003]

The problem I'm having with this crt is not about creating realms but having real stars and suns. Even the primordial one didn't create any actual stars. Primordial One used metroites, hung them in the barrier and called it sky. Although they are called stars, they are not actual stars. Imaginarium therater creation feats also iffy since it's inside a book. Same with simulanka. Also 4-A scaling for vision holders and archons is also inconsistent with the actual lore. And Elemental Energy as UES also kinda wrong since elemental energy has likely two versions. The version Dragons used before Primordial One's arrival and the version Primordial One divided the phlogiston. Again, elemental energy is only native to Teyvat planet and doesn't not applied to outside universe.

4-A rating for stars needs scans for the suns and stars being real. Mind that realm being real doesn't mean stars are real too. With this logic, you can say "just becuz teyvat is real, the stars on the barrier must be real". Pretty wanky don't you think? It has to mention directly about the stars being actual stars.
Leyline flowing with elemental energy and changing the world is also talking about changing just only the teyvat planet.

Alice, the creator of this world, stated that this world is real, this is a statement from the creator which is certainly very credible.

We are shown clearly what the Imaginarium Theater looks like and it really is a space that has stars and planets, is this still not enough?

the problem with the primordial one is that you forgot that this primordial created the human realm? human realm is not a planet, but a universe that has its own timeline.

When Childe fell into the Abyss he felt the time difference between the Abyss and Teyvat which means that the Abyss and Teyvat have their own timelines, this has met the standards for L2C area in each realm.

What's more, we shouldn't assume too quickly that the fake sky is just a dome depicting the sky, if the fake sky is just a dome depicting the sky, travelers who are decenders will already know that the Teyvat sky is fake, and in Teyvat there will be no such thing as day and night cycle.

This was also proven when event 1.2 showed a meteor shower raining down on Teyvat, it was a fragment of the constellation of Leonard who had died. Mona also explained that the stars in Teyvat were really real stars, not just words.

So in my opinion from this case it is not impossible that an archon class can get AP 4A because this does not disturb the hierarchy of gods in Teyvat, where the primordial one true god has far surpassed the archon in power.

 

[Weaver261]

Alice, the creator of this world, stated that this world is real, this is a statement from the creator which is certainly very credible.

We are shown clearly what the Imaginarium Theater looks like and it really is a space that has stars and planets, is this still not enough?

It's not enough cuz we already have an example of fake sky with meteorites acting as stars even in Teyvat which is a real place. As I said before, just because the world is interactable and real as an experience to the traveler, doesn't mean even the stars are real too since you can't interact or know anything about stars except they provide light and exist in the background. It's also not lore accurate since even Witches cannot stop the universe from dying (it mentioned that real stars are literally dying outside Teyvat). If they have the power to do so, they would have already solved the problem.

the problem with the primordial one is that you forgot that this primordial created the human realm? human realm is not a planet, but a universe that has its own timeline.

When Childe fell into the Abyss he felt the time difference between the Abyss and Teyvat which means that the Abyss and Teyvat have their own timelines, this has met the standards for L2C area in each realm.

Okay, this is kinda weird cuz to my knowledge, Light realm and human realm are the same. It was called light realm in the age of Dragons. Later, it was taken over by Primordial One, phlogiston is divided into elemental energy and make the human realm

• Also known as the realm of the elements.
  Though, much like mother nature, this realm has fallen under the dominion of humanity, it will still land humans its aid against the encroaching void.

Abyss is also not another universe with different timeline. Time just flows at different rates. We don't know much about abyss to say it has different timeline.

In those three months, the swordswoman taught Tartaglia how to pass through the Abyss unhindered, and more importantly, nurtured the ability to stir up endless havoc from within Ajax's trouble-mongering nature.

No one knew what happened within that darkness during those three months, nor would Ajax ever speak of this to anyone.

When his worried mother and sisters finally found him in that forest, only 3 days had passed in this world.

Okay, Travelers arrived into Khaenri'ah where the barrier is torn apart by the sinners. "So too did I fail to stop them from tearing away the veil of sin, ushering in a tide of divine wrath, destruction, and foolishness...". Why can you say there won't be day and night cycle? Meteorites acts as stars and sun and give light. Why do you think there won't be day and night cycle. It's not a valid counter argument.

What's more, we shouldn't assume too quickly that the fake sky is just a dome depicting the sky, if the fake sky is just a dome depicting the sky, travelers who are decenders will already know that the Teyvat sky is fake, and in Teyvat there will be no such thing as day and night cycle.

This doesn't counter anything for fake sky. It's outdated in lore. It has multiple counter arguments of fake sky in later lore. Mona's words alone can't also be used to determine the state of Teyvat. She is native to Teyvat.

This was also proven when event 1.2 showed a meteor shower raining down on Teyvat, it was a fragment of the constellation of Leonard who had died. Mona also explained that the stars in Teyvat were really real stars, not just words.