Undertale downgrades

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No it's not. The Player restoring Doki Doki through erasing the last part of the actual script isn't canon. The player erasing or teleport ing their avatar to the last part of the game through hacking is not canon. Not even creative mode is considered canon to Minecraft. The Player using console commands in Sims is not canon.

Undertale is not even metafictional to that point. No one actually acknowledges it as a game, the saveload thing has an in canon (and thus non-metal) explanation, and every other fourtwall break is a gag with none of the characters (but maybe Sans when turning to the scree) are awere of. Regardless, hacking is not a Canon thing in Undertale.

Lastly, yes, wrong file. There is a file that records what you have done in-game to change things throughout gameplays (Flowey reactions, Sans' judgment, Chara's reaction, Post-genocide pacifist ending, etc.). From there, you can remove selling your soul to put the game back to normal.

Steam version of the game saves progress on steam, so it automatically restores the game if edited the same way everything else does.

 

[GreyFang82]

Well there is one instance in which the game acknowledges you've edited files.

If you change file 0 or file 9 but not the other, when you open you inventory in-game saying "easy to change, huh?"

But I'm not auguring it's canon, I'm just pointing it out.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Spyro also acknowledges things like that, doesn't justify giving powers.

 

[GreyFang82]

I didn't say it did

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

You're right, because the effects of such are not part of the story in any scenario you gave, and none of those are metafictional in the slightest.

Obviously you've never heard of the Dirty Hacker ending.

Also, Frisk went outside the game itself to change the date to specifically October 10, 8pm, but yet still have Summer vacation going o, even if it's a Wednesday despite the fact that Undertale takes place on a day that isn't a Wednesday. Files should be a low blow.

And if you're skeptical, she did this to fight So Sorry, who was stated specifically to be in the wrong time and space.


That's not even the wrong file, that's the only file that isn't part of canon.

 

[ElixirBlue]

That same logic could apply to Arkham City and the Calender Man sections but I don't think it does.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Minecraft, which acknowledges you're playing a gameis not metafictional? Sims is not metafictional when the player is a deity they acknowledge as possessing all Simhood? Doki doki is not metafictional? White Face is not metafictional? Wat?

Spyro acknowledges your hacking. Spyro. You go upgrade that.

And all you are saying means jack regardless, you hack. You can literally hack your soul back from Chara, and not deleting them is not possible for the same reason you can't delete Sans or any other NPC fully: the shortcuts and Animations, the dialogue, and the sprite are within different files, and the game is programmed based on them.

None of what you have shown is Mid-Godly Regenerationn at all.

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody summarise the conclusions here, and what changes that we should perform?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

For Chara, remove abstract existence (lacks any reasoning at all beyond Chara describing themselves as a feeling, which is not enough) and Mid-Godly (there is no reasoning, again, except metw reasoning of editing the source code, which is not canon and isn't even true as you can get your soul back)

 

[Psychomaster35]

And the tier changes you suggested?

 

[Read_this_post]

Ummm... Still not sure if this is going anywhere till i get dem blogs done.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Sure.

 

[Read_this_post]

Though i can say that i dont feel uncomfortable with what i proposed earlier on and even removing those abilities from chara.

 

[Antvasima]

Ricsi seems to make sense to me if the rest of you are not opposed to the suggested changes.

 

[Read_this_post]

Not opposed as of right now. The most i could see chara getting is low godly if my revisions somehow lead to her scaling to frisks regen. But thats for another time.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Ricsi seems to make sense to me if the rest of you are not opposed to the suggested changes.

Cal agreed with it beforehand too.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Then it is probably fine to apply.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Chara

If you opened this page, I would apply it.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Tell me here when you are done.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Done. I also added the type of acausality they have (1, unaffected by save and load and all).

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.