TVDU General Discussion Thread

[ByArrow]

Pretty much . What about Tribrid hope?

Tribrid Hope and Ken scale on top of everyone in the verse

 

[ByArrow]

Cade scales to creation of hell.

At the Bonnie peak, scales to Cade.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Makes sense

Ken > Hope >= Jen >> Inadu/The Hollow > Dahlia >= Qetsiyah

Dark Josie, Harvest Davina, Esther im unsure which of those scale above the other. Though Dark Josie is changing her clothes with finger snaps and levitating and walking through a burning building unaffected so she might have a better case against Harvest Davina and Esther but what you think between Esther, Harvest Davina, and Dark Josie. Esther does have the title of one of the strongest witches in history but so does Dahlia and Dahlia is far superior to Esther. Davina has some insane feats with the power of the harvest as well

 

[ByArrow]

Esther is one of the most powerful witches after Dahlia. Esther scales above Harvest Davina, as she is able to bend the ancestral plane to her will. Since he channels the entire bennet lineage, including qetsiyah, he probably scales below dahlia, above Qetsiyah. But bennett should get a new key for the way he is channeling his lineage.

Harvest Davina does not scale to anyone. It only scales to its own power

Dark Josie doesn't scale to anyone.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

i guess that makes sense

 

[Danny33wise]

Esther is one of the most powerful witches after Dahlia. Esther scales above Harvest Davina, as she is able to bend the ancestral plane to her will. Since he channels the entire bennet lineage, including qetsiyah, he probably scales below dahlia, above Qetsiyah. But bennett should get a new key for the way he is channeling his lineage.

Harvest Davina does not scale to anyone. It only scales to its own power

Dark Josie doesn't scale to anyone.

This is definitely false info. Their is zero proof or feat that proof harvest davina is below esther. I would even go as far as to say shunned davina still had more power than esther.

Esther was mostly a threat because of her knowledge on magic. Literally in season 2 Davina left her coven (no ancestral magic) while Esther was the leader of the ancestors and at the time had enough power to resurrect the dead. Yet Davina was still able to block Esther and Kols locater spells.

Harvest davina would scale to dahlia.

 

[Danny33wise]

Also I think people are forgetting that harvest davina is definitely not her prime. Davina has 3 key here:

Harvest
Shunned
Ancestral/Gate keeper.

In each of this key she has lot of impressive feats. Her most impressive form is when she was the Gate keeper of the Ancestral realm, she practically has all the magic in new Orleans in a more controlled manner compared to her Harvest form.

Davina in her Gate keeper state scale far above dahlia simply because the ancestors are superior to her.

If inadu is scaling above Qetsiyah and dahlia so would gate keeper davina since the ancestors where capable of trapping here in their realm and still doing other stuff pre link destruction.

 

[Danny33wise]

I think we should scale all high tier in the same category and give mid tier to low tier a much lower rating compared to the high tier.

I don't agree with the term of hope being superior to everyone. Hope is certainly not the most impressive or knowledgeable witch, she doesn't have the most impressive feat of a vampire and lucien was a beast compared to Marcel.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

@Danny33wise
Hope doesnt necessarily need to be the most knowledgeable with magic all she really need is a high magical power to scale

For example i think Inadu's spell casting is inferior to Qetsiyah and Dahlia but her raw magic power as a witch is top tier. And it makes sense as her birth she was born with it due to pregnancy ritual. Hope wouldnt be the most powerful imo if she can easily be bested in a category. If only her physical strength was impressive than a more powerful witch would simply best her, if only her magic was impressive than she could be bested physically. Being the tribrid made her superior to everyone is basically all categories. Here here and being unaffected by a spell designed to knock her out. Also the transformation to becoming a tribrid itself caused a storm. Also she casually does this now. Her magic based on what i showed you was heavily amplified. She is stilll inexperienced as a witch, yes, but her magic power is higher than all the other witches. Though its possible Inadu still has higher raw magic but its more likely hope does.

So its not like it has no backing. Its just shes less experienced as a witch as rest are. But her raw magic power is. So she upscales everything

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Also I think people are forgetting that harvest davina is definitely not her prime. Davina has 3 key here:

Harvest
Shunned
Ancestral/Gate keeper.

In each of this key she has lot of impressive feats. Her most impressive form is when she was the Gate keeper of the Ancestral realm, she practically has all the magic in new Orleans in a more controlled manner compared to her Harvest form.

Davina in her Gate keeper state scale far above dahlia simply because the ancestors are superior to her.

If inadu is scaling above Qetsiyah and dahlia so would gate keeper davina since the ancestors where capable of trapping here in their realm and still doing other stuff pre link destruction.

They could only keep her spirit at bay. Inadu is at her strongest as a human its just she grew stronger in her first death. When the hollow was a walking witch nobody could really oppose her. Harvest Davina should not scale to Dahlia there is no backing for that, i will have to look into this gatekeeper thing though i dont remember her feats or statements, can you tell me which episodes?

And anybody with the strongest witches in history has high magic power along with spellcasting. Esther definitely has high magic power as well

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

I think we should scale all high tier in the same category and give mid tier to low tier a much lower rating compared to the high tier.

im not against this but of course none would scale to the full power of the hollow except hope

 

[ByArrow]

This is definitely false info. Their is zero proof or feat that proof harvest davina is below esther. I would even go as far as to say shunned davina still had more power than esther.

Davina may be stronger than esther. But not as strong as the carpet, which rules Esther's ancestral plane according to her will and channels the full power of the Bennett lineage.

Esther was mostly a threat because of her knowledge on magic. Literally in season 2 Davina left her coven (no ancestral magic) while Esther was the leader of the ancestors and at the time had enough power to resurrect the dead. Yet Davina was still able to block Esther and Kols locater spells.

I think the fact that he can block locator spells is not enough for him to scale, because locator spells don't work on hidden objects/people.

Harvest davina would scale to dahlia.

Why does Harvest davina need to scale to dahlia? There is nothing to indicate that they are comparable. Harvest davina scales only to the fact that she can destroy the city.

 

[ByArrow]

Also I think people are forgetting that harvest davina is definitely not her prime. Davina has 3 key here:

Harvest
Shunned
Ancestral/Gate keeper.

In each of this key she has lot of impressive feats. Her most impressive form is when she was the Gate keeper of the Ancestral realm, she practically has all the magic in new Orleans in a more controlled manner compared to her Harvest form.

He may have more control, but I don't remember anything that shows he's stronger. Basically Harvest is the same as davina. He has all the ancestral magic, but only better control.

Davina in her Gate keeper state scale far above dahlia simply because the ancestors are superior to her.

Given her power, she was consecrated as a New Orleans witch, allowing Sophie to complete the Harvest ritual, which renews the power of hundreds of witches by reconnecting them to their dead ancestors. Even in spirit, she became leader of the New Orleans Ancestral Witches. Esther was also capable of bending the entire ancestral plane to her will, consequently controlling the New Orleans coven as a whole. And yet she was afraid of Dahlia's coming. And he had the magic of the ancestors and the knowledge of the other side as well.

If inadu is scaling above Qetsiyah and dahlia so would gate keeper davina since the ancestors where capable of trapping here in their realm and still doing other stuff pre link destruction.

As I said at the top, it does not scale.

 

[ByArrow]

I think we should scale all high tier in the same category and give mid tier to low tier a much lower rating compared to the high tier

That's what we're thinking about doing.

I don't agree with the term of hope being superior to everyone. Hope is certainly not the most impressive or knowledgeable witch, she doesn't have the most impressive feat of a vampire and lucien was a beast compared to Marcel.

It has been said many times in both legacies and the originals that Hope is the most powerful being. And her feats were far beyond what a normal witch could do.
Even just his transformation caused storms.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

That's what we're thinking about doing.

It has been said many times in both legacies and the originals that Hope is the most powerful being. And her feats were far beyond what a normal witch could do.
Even just his transformation caused storms.

Yea this and by the producer as well. I linked a couple feats that showed her magic has improved alot in my response. Also didnt the hollow want hope? I cant remember entirely what her motives were other than being evil

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

-wouldnt this be easy?

10-B physically, Low 7-B with magic up to 4-C with prep? for higher tier ones

Prep make sense as when witches channel things like a celestial events they can perform ridiculous feats.

Low tier witches can get

10-B physically, 9-B-9-A with magic, far higher with prep. But let me know if low tier witches have something better than 9-B 9-A. They might have something

 

[ByArrow]

-wouldnt this be easy?

10-B physically, Low 7-B with magic up to 4-C with prep? for higher tier ones

Prep make sense as when witches channel things like a celestial events they can perform ridiculous feats.

Low tier witches can get

10-B physically, 9-B-9-A with magic, far higher with prep. But let me know if low tier witches have something better than 9-B 9-A. They might have something

Yes, that's better.

 

[Danny33wise]

Hope doesnt necessarily need to be the most knowledgeable with magic all she really need is a high magical power to scale

I know hope has an impressive magical power, it would be stupid if she didn't. All am saying is that her magical power doesn't compare to most of the other high tier witches I listed.

Iegacies has some spell that I would call impressive and weird, TO witches are something on a whole different level.

My mind is a bit foggy when it comes to legacies, but what is hope most impressive witch feat?

 

[Danny33wise]

He may have more control, but I don't remember anything that shows he's stronger. Basically Harvest is the same as davina. He has all the ancestral magic, but only better control.

She has all the magic this time around is what differentiate her from her harvest key. Harvest davina wanted to take all the magic in new Orleans so witches can't practice magic again but she didn't succeed because klaus ****** her up by poisoning her drink and also killing Tim which made her mentally and emotionally unstable. Harvest davina doesn't have all the magic in new Orleans but was still very impressive.

Gate keeper davina has all the magic in new Orleans in a more controlled manner. This simply means she would be sealing to all the feat that has been done by the ancestors like causing a storm and making it rain, shaking new Orleans and so many more like having a huge range because lucien spell was performed in mystic falls.

Given her power, she was consecrated as a New Orleans witch, allowing Sophie to complete the Harvest ritual, which renews the power of hundreds of witches by reconnecting them to their dead ancestors. Even in spirit, she became leader of the New Orleans Ancestral Witches. Esther was also capable of bending the entire ancestral plane to her will, consequently controlling the New Orleans coven as a whole. And yet she was afraid of Dahlia's coming. And he had the magic of the ancestors and the knowledge of the other side as well.

Esther being afraid of dahlia coming still doesn't prove dahlia > ancestors. If the ancestors wanted to screw esther, they could have taken esther out by them selves.

Vincent pointed out a fact here that disproved the claim of dahlia > ancestors by saying this: "if you go against them, they will cripple you"

This statement add something to the mix. Esther main goal given to her by the ancestors was for her to make vampire extinct and how does she plan on doing? She planned on doing such by making them mortal again via body swap and then killing their original body with white oak.

Esther had ancestral magic but not all of them. With the bending ancestral realm statements, this is a feat that harvest davina could scale to while why Gate keeper davina would scale above this.

The ancestors wouldn't have helped Esther fight off dahlia because dahlia was doing their goal for them while esther helped her children.

As I said at the top, it does not scale.

Like I pointed out before their are evidence and statements that prove davina and inadu are close power wise so she would scale. She literally resurrected 4 witches on her own when she when she became Gate keeper.

 

[Danny33wise]

It has been said many times in both legacies and the originals that Hope is the most powerful being. And her feats were far beyond what a normal witch could do.
Even just his transformation caused storms.

It not that am saying hope is weak or anything but I can't honestly take such statements seriously when people like dahlia, hollow, davina, bonnie and so on have statements of being called the most powerful witches.

Their creativity and knowledge + power makes that statements believable but when it comes to hope things get a bit iffy because he aren’t using her feat we are just scaling her to people who has done more impressive stuff than her.

Hope can be the most powerful being in history because of her potential and her being something that the world have never seen.

 

[Danny33wise]

-wouldnt this be easy?

10-B physically, Low 7-B with magic up to 4-C with prep? for higher tier ones

Prep make sense as when witches channel things like a celestial events they can perform ridiculous feats.

Low tier witches can get

10-B physically, 9-B-9-A with magic, far higher with prep. But let me know if low tier witches have something better than 9-B 9-A. They might have something

4c with prep? Who and who are getting profile like this. I mean I know some watches get busted by channeling magic, Freya is a perfect example.

But aren't all the high tier just on that level like? Esther could get 4c with ancestral, dahlia could get 4c and higher when serious.

Most inadu best feat comes from her being a spirits though she she was still impressive when she resurrected so she could get far higher with her spirits or body. Inadu was just to impressive to grasp her level.

Some like davina could ge far higher as a spirit.

Wouldn't it be better if they all have different reasoning for their tier.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

But aren't all the high tier just on that level like? Esther could get 4c with ancestral, dahlia could get 4c and higher when serious.

Most inadu best feat comes from her being a spirits though she she was still impressive when she resurrected so she could get far higher with her spirits or body. Inadu was just to impressive to grasp her level.

I think its more so she no longer had anything to lose since she lost. When she was alive she still had plans and goals, when she lost her body seems like she just wanted total destruction. Her werewolf creation was casted as a human. I think its more so intention. Wouldnt be so desperate to get her body back if she was weaker. I'll reply to rest when my keyboard works properly

 

[ByArrow]

Iegacies has some spell that I would call impressive and weird, TO witches are something on a whole different level.

My mind is a bit foggy when it comes to legacies, but what is hope most impressive witch feat?

If you're asking about his feat in Legacies, as I recall, he created a prison world with his own power. But since it's been a long time since I've watched legacies, I don't remember all of she feats.

 

[ByArrow]

She has all the magic this time around is what differentiate her from her harvest key. Harvest davina wanted to take all the magic in new Orleans so witches can't practice magic again but she didn't succeed because klaus ***** her up by poisoning her drink and also killing Tim which made her mentally and emotionally unstable. Harvest davina doesn't have all the magic in new Orleans but was still very impressive.

Gate keeper davina has all the magic in new Orleans in a more controlled manner. This simply means she would be sealing to all the feat that has been done by the ancestors like causing a storm and making it rain, shaking new Orleans and so many more like having a huge range because lucien spell was performed in mystic falls.


Esther being afraid of dahlia coming still doesn't prove dahlia > ancestors. If the ancestors wanted to screw esther, they could have taken esther out by them selves.

No, they couldn't. Esther was at the head of the ancestors. Esther took over the ancestors, becoming their leader and controlling the plane of her own will. Ancestral magic was also under Esther's control. He even sent two covens to kill Hope. But still she was afraid of Dahlia.

Vincent pointed out a fact here that disproved the claim of dahlia > ancestors by saying this: "if you go against them, they will cripple you"

He didn't say that to the dahlia.

This statement add something to the mix. Esther main goal given to her by the ancestors was for her to make vampire extinct and how does she plan on doing? She planned on doing such by making them mortal again via body swap and then killing their original body with white oak.

The ancestors gave Esther no purpose. Esther became head of the ancestors and used them to accomplish her purpose.

Esther had ancestral magic but not all of them. With the bending ancestral realm statements, this is a feat that harvest davina could scale to while why Gate keeper davina would scale above this.

Esther had control of the Ancestors' magic. And harvest davina couldn't control the plane so it doesn't scale.

Unlike Esther, Gatekeeper Davina could not control the plane at will. And Gatekeeper davina didn't have all of the ancestral magic. Davina was just the gateway and spells passed through it, but she didn't have all the magic.

The ancestors wouldn't have helped Esther fight off dahlia because dahlia was doing their goal for them while esther helped her children.

Dahlia's goal was to take hope, and if necessary, she would destroy the entire city. And although the ancestors were tasked with protecting the city, they did not oppose Dahlia, who was to destroy the city.

Like I pointed out before their are evidence and statements that prove davina and inadu are close power wise so she would scale. She literally resurrected 4 witches on her own when she when she became Gate keeper.

There is no evidence or statement. The Hollow even effortlessly took Davina out of the ancestral plane and imprisoned her. And it caused Davina to become extremely weak. If she had been as strong as Davina Hollow, she could have resisted, but she couldn't. And without Hope Davina would have died

 

[ByArrow]

It not that am saying hope is weak or anything but I can't honestly take such statements seriously when people like dahlia, hollow, davina, bonnie and so on have statements of being called the most powerful witches.

Their creativity and knowledge + power makes that statements believable but when it comes to arda things get a bit iffy because he aren’t using her feat we are just scaling her to people who has done more impressive stuff than her.

Hope can be the most powerful being in history because of her potential and her being something that the world have never seen.

Hope wrote her own cloaking and sleeping spell. And when Hope was seven, she broke a dark spell that Davina took hours to break. In short, Hope is creative, knowledgeable, and one of the most powerful characters in the verse.

 

[ByArrow]

4c with prep? Who and who are getting profile like this. I mean I know some witches get busted by channeling magic, Freya is a perfect example.

Hope, bonnie, and those scaled to the Gemini coven take this tier.

But aren't all the high tier just on that level like? Esther could get 4c with ancestral, dahlia could get 4c and higher when serious.

Yes the higher tiers are all just at this level but because they scale to gemini covens.

Most inadu best feat comes from her being a spirits though she she was still impressive when she resurrected so she could get far higher with her spirits or body. Inadu was just to impressive to grasp her level.

Some like davina could ge far higher as a spirit.

Wouldn't it be better if they all have different reasoning for their tier.

They don't have enough feats for their own justification. That's why they all get the same justification.

 

[Danny33wise]

If you're asking about his feat in Legacies, as I recall, he created a prison world with his own power. But since it's been a long time since I've watched legacies, I don't remember all of she feats.

When did hope create a prison World? If I remember correctly, any prison that was created in legacies was done with help.

No, they couldn't. Esther was at the head of the ancestors. Esther took over the ancestors, becoming their leader and controlling the plane of her own will. Ancestral magic was also under Esther's control. He even sent two covens to kill Hope. But still she was afraid of Dahlia.

Esther did not took control of the ancestral magic, she was in charge for a short period of time. Esther act more like a regent rather than someone who contains all the ancestral magic.

If esther had all the ancestral magic like you claim she has she would have broken through davina barrier spell easily, she wouldn't need to send kol to flirt and she would be able to sense all magic being done in new Orleans.

Esther did not have all the ancestral magic, she is just capable of channeling ancestral magic from the ancestors because they made a deal. Esther act more like a regent than the actual gate keeper of the ancestral magic.

He didn't say that to the dahlia.

Never said he did, I was just pointing out the fact behind such claim. The ancestors where no longer on esther side once she was in leonor body.

The ancestors gave Esther no purpose. Esther became head of the ancestors and used them to accomplish her purpose.

This never did happen and esther did not show a fraction of feat that harvest or gate keeper davina has shown. Esther was indeed impressive but what you are implying never happened. Esther main purpose was to kill Hope and so where the ancestors as we've heard from what genevieve said, esther was effects working with the ancestors as 5hey both share a somewhat similar mindset.

Esther being in control of all the ancestral magic is straight up false and a misinterpretation of what was actually going on.

Esther had control of the Ancestors' magic. And harvest davina couldn't control the plane so it doesn't scale.

Unlike Esther, Gatekeeper Davina could not control the plane at will. And Gatekeeper davina didn't have all of the ancestral magic. Davina was just the gateway and spells passed through it, but she didn't have all the magic.

Harvest davina had no control over the ancestral plane which is true but it doesn't change the fact that she could have had a magic power equivalent to that as her plan was to drain all the magic from new Orleans.

Gate keeper davina had all control of the ancestral realm and the magic in it. Davina wa able to see inadu's past and was easily capable of manipating the originals soul.

Esther was the leader of the ancestors but had no idea of a greater evil like the hollow. This kind of point the fact that gate keeper davina was superior between her and Esther.

Gatekeeper davina had all the control of the ancestral magic, nobody in new Orleans is capable of performing ancestral magic without davina stamp of approval. All the ancestral magic flows through her as she's the body that control it all.

Dahlia's goal was to take hope, and if necessary, she would destroy the entire city. And although the ancestors were tasked with protecting the city, they did not oppose Dahlia, who was to destroy the city.

Dahlia wouldn't destroy the whole city, she would have gotten rid of the mikaelsons therefore giving the ancestors what they want "vampire extinction".

Even if dahlia where to destroy the city, it could still be rebuilt and the power the originals has left behind if the died would make it possible for some old witches to resurrect.

There is no evidence or statement. The Hollow even effortlessly took Davina out of the ancestral plane and imprisoned her. And it caused Davina to become extremely weak. If she had been as strong as Davina Hollow, she could have resisted, but she couldn't. And without Hope Davina would have died

Their are evidence that proves inadu and gate keeper davina are close in power. Like

● The ancestors where capable of holding inadu and davina has same powers.

● Inadu went to hide in sophia's body because she was scared that since Vincent had link the ancestors back to the realm of the living, they could trap her and that is why she was in a hurry to resurrect.

As for how inadu resurrected davina back, we don't know how she did it, they are multiple resurrection spell and inadu could have gave davina soul a body thereby drawing davina back to the physical realm.

It also doesn't help that davina bones where at the cemetery where inadu was, so her resurrecting davina could be easy since they are so many loop holes in magic.

Also, when inadu resurrected she was also weak and so was davina. Davina believed that she could break a linking spell that would take a coven of witches to do once she regains her power back.

No matter how you see things, gate keeper davina still scale to the hollow. Even on freya wedding, davina did a spell that even kol didn't know. This simply means she still has the ancestral magic and knowledge.

Inadu =gate keeper davina > dahlia in power.

 

[Danny33wise]

Hope wrote her own cloaking and sleeping spell. And when Hope was seven, she broke a dark spell that Davina took hours to break. In short, Hope is creative, knowledgeable, and one of the most powerful characters in the verse.

This is an impressive feat for hope, but it's definitely not impressive compared davina feat. Sleeping spell is something davina had done with just a snap of her fingers and and cloaking spell is something davina can easily do as she even taught a vampire how to sniff out a cloaking spell.

In season 2 Davina left her coven (no ancestral magic) while Esther was the leader of the ancestors and at the time had enough power to resurrect the dead. Yet Davina was still able to block Esther and Kols locater spells. Also Davina was able to locate Finn who was blocking her locater spells while he was in Vincents body channeling both Mikael and Esther without a map or any personal belongings or someone’s blood related to him. Even Dahlia needed Klaus blood to cast a locater spell on Hope so how powerful is Davinas raw power. I’m not saying she is more powerful than Dahlia because she isn’t but her spells are undeniably powerful.

Davina located finn with a visionary spell, this is a spell that has only been done by her through out thr entire tvd universe.

Davina also created a counter spell that would break one of the spell that was stated to be impossible to break the sire line spell. The sire line spell was stated to be esther greatest spell and an impossible spell to break but davina did it on her own.

You are really underestimating davina with the logic of trying to over hype hope. I have no problem with hope being the strongest in the verse, I have problem with her lacking feat that proves such a statement is even true.

Hope can still be the strongest via being a specie that nobody have seen before but can still be Weaker than some witches.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

phone and laptop broke so until thn cant do anything can only help w/ scalimg justifications

 

[Danny33wise]

This new scaling would also affect the likes of cade and Katherine.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

I don't think it would they aren't witches and don't have a saying of being more powerful than powerful witches but they could scale to hellfire destroying mystic falls theoretically

 

[ByArrow]

The Slayer VS The Original Hybrid

The Slayer VS The Original Hybird

Rules: Speed equal Second key Klaus is used First key Slayer is used SBA for everything else Vote: The Original Hybird: The Slayer:

vsbattles.com

 

[Testarossa002]

Ahem
I just finished rewatching all 3 series and have it in mind to revise the verse.

Just want to know if someone is already cooking up something so we don't end up doing the same work

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

I'm out of retirement so what you thinking

 

[ByArrow]

Are we done with scaling?

 

[Testarossa002]

I'm out of retirement so what you thinking

Abilities addition for witches
Speed Upgrade (MG can run on water even when burning. Scales to practically everybody. And there's one more stuff about Damon catching bullets)
AP upgrade (Ken can instantly create storm clouds over mystic falls. Gemini coven can create pocket universes. H3-A Malivore. Josette's first girlfriend casually outputting magic capable of lifting elephants)
Regeneration upgrade for originals and above
Layered mind manipulation via compulsion for originals
Profile creation for some legacies characters

These are all I have in mind for now

 

[ByArrow]

Abilities addition for witches
Speed Upgrade (MG can run on water even when burning. Scales to practically everybody. And there's one more stuff about Damon catching bullets)

I calculated Damon's feat, it's not very impressive.

AP upgrade (Ken can instantly create storm clouds over mystic falls. Gemini coven can create pocket universes. H3-A Malivore. Josette's first girlfriend casually outputting magic capable of lifting elephants)

Ken's feat of creating a storm is not very impressive for him. It's probably a weaker hurricane than Dahlia and Inadu, but I can do the math to see what happens.
I'm pretty sure this isn't H3-A but rather star level as they scale to structures within pocket universes
Do you know what kind of elephant it is? Asian elephant is Class 5, African savannah elephant is Class 10.

Regeneration upgrade for originals and above

What will they be upgraded to? Low-High?

 

[ByArrow]

Profile creation for some legacies characters

It would be better to fix the profiles we have now before creating new profiles.

 

[Testarossa002]

I calculated Damon's feat, it's not very impressive.

I mean real bullets from a gun

Ken's feat of creating a tornado is not very impressive for him. It's probably a weaker hurricane than Dahlia and Inadu, but I can do the math to see what happens.
I'm pretty sure this isn't H3-A but rather star level as they scale to structures within pocket universes
Do you know what kind of elephant it is? Asian elephant is Class 5, African savannah elephant is Class 10.

Malivore is stated to be infinite multiple times
For the pocket dimension, Damon refers to it as a universe
For the elephants, it was kinda statement only
There's one other statement of the ocean not capable of holding Hollow Klaus
I'll provide evidence for all soon

What will they be upgraded to? Low-High?

Mid high

It would be better to fix the profiles we have now before creating new profiles.

I plan on doing both
Along with physiology blog for vampires and werewolf and general abilities blog for witches
To make indexing easier

 

[ByArrow]

I mean real bullets from a gun

If you link the feat I can calculate it

Malivore is stated to be infinite multiple times

I'm pretty sure those are exaggerations

For the pocket dimension, Damon refers to it as a universe

It's not enough to describe it as a universe, and Damon's word can't really be used as evidence here.

For the elephants, it was kinda statement only

So class 5

There's one other statement of the ocean not capable of holding Hollow Klaus

I'm not sure what this proves