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I don't exactly think it's inconsistent but whatever.
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I hope this is not an inconsistency too. But the way you guys treated it is no fair at all.I don't exactly think it's inconsistent but whatever.
I still disagree with this line of reasoning. It would be inconsistent if the verse actively went over how they lacked physicality, but thus far I'm not seeing that.That's what they've been trying to say.
Qliphoth is saying what they've been saying with slightly different wording, it's a 1 time statement that's inconsistent with everything else. Why take that inconsistency to downgrade an entire verse?
What? How is a word/statement that literally breaks the lore and everything that as been established not inconsistent?.I still disagree with this line of reasoning. It would be inconsistent if the verse actively went over how they lacked physicality, but thus far I'm not seeing that.
I've not been shown evidence of it breaking the lore. I've been told it does, I've been shown that people believe information having mass is preposterous and thus breaks the lore, but I've not actually been shown contradictory evidence.What? How is a word/statement that literally breaks the lore and everything that as been established not inconsistent?.
“ The information etched in the soul is the source of the exercise of power.
Is that information engraved directly on the energy?—It’s not.
First there is a self with an indeterminate wavelength, and a collection of "information fragments" envelops these - the core. All the information is carved into it. „ - vol.13
Metalballrun already gave some scans and examples proving otherwise.I still trust the judgements of Bambu and Promestein.
The dryad one's the only one that really works for me so whatever, I still don't think the rest necessarily contradict itThis is as far as I can go since I won't really have time for the rest of the week.
A quick description of the Slime World/Cardinal World as described by Yuuki is that it's a semi-spiritual world that shares spiritual and physical properties. In comparison to Rimuru's former world (universe where IRL Earth resides) which is a purely physical one, and the purely spiritual world which is the complete opposite of a physical world. I.e. not physical.
Souls are normally detached from the world and is different from the physical body which is directly connected to the world.
The soul is a consciousness, the astral form essentially allows thought process, and the spiritual form allows them to be recorded. The material, physical body is a permanent storage of memories.
Examples of spirits lacking physicality are: Charybdis, a spiritual life-form, needs a body to interact with the world. Ifrit, an elemental, immune from physical attacks. Dryads have no weight or physical presence at all, the only corporeal parts of them are the great trees where their soul resides, and when they use magic to make themselves corporeal/interact with physical things. These are just among many other examples, like Rimuru needing Nonphysical Interaction to kill a lesser demon.
I'm sure others have more scans. If these things aren't enough for you guys, then it is what it is.
Here. The Lesser Demon is stated to be made of magicules, and Magic is quite literally the shape of whatever you wish it to be.Mind showing us the Rimuru needing non-physical interaction to kill a lesser demon part? 2 acceptable pieces of evidence > 1, so.
What? So, you're ignoring every blatant statement and feats regarding non-physicality?The dryad one's the only one that really works for me so whatever, I still don't think the rest necessarily contradict it
Sorry, i don't mean to be aggressive, just speaking what's in my mind.Chillax, dude, pretty much the only knowledge I have on this verse is what's been offered to me in these two threads, and in the comment you're quoting I had just backed off and accepted the arguments of people who know it better. All I did was subject it to a lot of scrutiny, which is what I generally try to do, especially when big upgrades are shoved my way.
The souls being consciousness and the tidbit about the cosmology is bigger evidences IMO, but whatever, it's all the same since DryadsThe dryad one's the only one that really works for me so whatever, I still don't think the rest necessarily contradict it
That's fair and all, but I'm actually arguing to downgrade the LN Profiles from High-Godly to Mid-Godly (for Diablo) and Low-Godly (for Rimuru) since that's what I think makes the most sense.All I did was subject it to a lot of scrutiny, which is what I generally try to do, especially when big upgrades are shoved my way.
Not sure about low godly since it was stated to erase the soul and everything even information.The souls being consciousness and the tidbit about the cosmology is bigger evidences IMO, but whatever, it's all the same since Dryads
That's fair and all, but I'm actually arguing to downgrade the LN Profiles from High-Godly to Mid-Godly (for Diablo) and Low-Godly (for Rimuru) since that's what I think makes the most sense.
But Melt Slash is destroying soul too and i don't think Rimuru resist Melt Slash if he have to regenerate from it in the first place. Rain even said it was very dangerous even for Primordial DemonsWe haven't seen or it hasn't been described to us that Rimuru can survive getting his soul/entire existence destroyed, yet. He was able to block Melt Slash with Beelzebub. At most it's an advanced form of Low Godly since he can regenerate his physical and spiritual body from the soul.
Primordial Demons and True Dragons have both been described to be able to and actually did regenerate after complete destruction.
Rimuru with Infinite regeneration can create a physical and soul (Including skills since skills are literally part of the physical and soul of a person)“ The skills acquired at the limit of physical training are not carved into the "soul" but are attached to the body. This is especially true for skills gained from magical creatures, which can be gained by simply eating the opponent.
This skill is known as an inherent skill of the race, and if the same race holds such a skill, then future generations can also inherit it.
Skills acquired through cultivation often only reach the level of extra skills. The point is that after that, it's still relatively useful to weave original techniques by increasing proficiency or fusing with sword skills. „ - vol.16
“ According to Ciel-san, there are cases where Unique Skill is rooted in the mind, cases where it is engraved in the soul, and cases where it resides in the astral body, spiritual body, or material body. There is also the power to steal Skill from enemies, but it seems that this is only possible if it is in the body. As an exception, it seems that there are Skills that reside in the soul, and in such cases, they can be taken away. In other words, is it harder to take something that's engraved in your soul? „
Bit confused through, we know MS targets Cells, Souls, and Info. It destroyed the latter portion, but it’s directly stated that Rimuru would regenerate it because ER had stopped being a skill, but an intrinsic part of his existence. Like how Spiritual Lifeforms naturally regenerate.There are no High-Godly in the LN. The WN is different. We haven't confirmed the composition of Divine Spirits in the LN yet and a separate conceptual/information existence separate from the rest.
It would have to actually destroy mind-body-soul, but otherwise yes.That's literally saying Melt-slash can't destroy a soul. And You don't always need a literal statement that someone could comeback from a soul destruction right? as long as they could comeback from an attack that could destroy even a soul, then that's treated as Mid-godly right? In rimuru case he can regenerate from melt-slash that can erase, destroy soul. So even without that information he still mid-godly.
It erases every thing from cells to soul to existence and information.It would have to actually destroy mind-body-soul, but otherwise yes.
Yeah it erase body cell to soul (Mind/consiousnes are part of the soul)It would have to actually destroy mind-body-soul, but otherwise yes.
There is no need for such hostility, really.At this point you look like that biased Maou Gakuin supporter who purposely trying to downgrade the entire verse.
I have made clear that i don't mean to aggressive and already apologize for it, so drop it.There is no need for such hostility, really.
So far there's no counter feat for the statement regarding Rimuru could regenerate from Melt Slash.I'm still iffy on Rimuru having Mid-Godly, but I'd rather hear Elizhaa's or others' opinion on it. I'm neutral to that for now.