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The purpose of this thread is to upgrade the cosmology of T7 from 2-A to 1-C structure. It's worth noting that we're not gonna talk about the scaling here as it will be saved in another thread should this be accepted. Thanks @Rendynoc0unter for providing some scans btw.
First of all, there exist Archives (alternate spaces) that are the power sources for Magus of the main 4-D worlds to draw upon, and they're said to belong to a higher dimension (5-D space) called the center of the universe, and, apparently, this dimension is inaccessible and incomprehensible relative to lower dimensional being.
Now we know that this higher dimension is actually the Heavenly Realm as the Heavenly Realm is described as the center of the universe as well, and that apparently aligns with how this realm can only be accessed by those who can transcend spacetime (that is, to be superior to countably infinite 4-D structures).
If Magus in the 4-D worlds draws power upon the Archives of the 5-D Heavenly Realm, then the Arbitrator in the 5-D Heavenly Realm will draw power upon the Clouds of even higher and more archetypal dimension, from this, it can be inferred that there is a 6-D structure that's superior to 5-D realm in the similar way that the 5-D realm being superior to infinite 4-D worlds.
Last but not least, we have the Akashic Record, the vortex of origin where all realities stemmed from, which is stated to be the pure and utter chaos that's unable to calculate by even those who have access to the Cloud such as Selina, with an inaccessible nature, and we know that it's a higher dimension as it's where the gods originate and belong to, who are stated to be higher dimensional concepts for numerous times. So this is a 7-D layer of transcendent existences, hence the only way to completely destroy them is to send attacks that transcend dimensions as well.
Obviously, there's a qualitative gap between these higher and lower dimensions, as according to Abyss Trinity, the Akashic Record is where infinite worlds exist within (or according to the glossary, the idea frame/underlying concept of something is the "prototype of all" within the Akashic Record, which means, the Akashic Records contain all things in nature as so far nothing in the verse is stated to exist without fundamental concept). To quote from our Tiering System FAQ's page:
So needless to say, the dimensions in Trinity do qualify as a 7-D model according to our standard, but to further showcase that the higher dimensions here are non-trivial in size rather than some sort of compact dimension, we are given a cosmological map that illustrates the higher dimension, the larger its size seems to be, with the baseline spacetime being the smallest dot in that map despite its infinite in size already. The map also shows us that the Akashic Record is located as the center of all creation and if the Akashic Record is already qualitatively superior to infinite worlds thanks to that nature, then the Heavenly Realm should be qualitatively superior to the 4-D spacetimes in the similar fashion as well since as I already said, it's the center of the 4-D universe. The fact that the Akashic Record also has transcendent, incomprehensible and inaccessible nature relative to 6-D structure being similar to how the Heavenly Realm is transcendent, incomprehensible and inaccessible to inhabitants of 4-D spacetimes further proves that all higher dimensions in the verse trivialize the lower dimensions with a similar extent.
Tldr:
Higher dimension of the Archives/Heavenly Realm: 5-D
Higher dimension of the Clouds: 6-D
The Akashic Record: 7-D
Agree: 23 (Setsuna_tenma, Reiner, PainKiller07, DarkDragonMedeus, Fikriskps, God900, Catpija, Planck69, Fixxed, Artorimachi_Meteoraft, Robo, PDB123456789, Shereen, Rabbit2002, Dereck03, EldemadeDityjon, Rendynoc0unter (Neutral about the Cloud), Lonkitt, Thunderian, Abstractly_a_Protagonist, Godsatoshi23,
Nexp06, Rakih_Elyan)
Disagree: 2 (Bobsican, ImmortalDread)
Neutral:
First of all, there exist Archives (alternate spaces) that are the power sources for Magus of the main 4-D worlds to draw upon, and they're said to belong to a higher dimension (5-D space) called the center of the universe, and, apparently, this dimension is inaccessible and incomprehensible relative to lower dimensional being.
Translation: #3 Archive "The seven deadly sins are the names of the magical classifications. The seven sins are arrogance, envy, anger, sloth, greed, lust, and lust for sex. It is said to exist in a higher dimension called the center of the world, a level unrecognizable by the human brain, and certainly unreachable by a living body. Therefore, mages connect to the "archives" by flying their consciousness and spirit to that level. The topics of mages' research always belong to one of these seven categories."
Now we know that this higher dimension is actually the Heavenly Realm as the Heavenly Realm is described as the center of the universe as well, and that apparently aligns with how this realm can only be accessed by those who can transcend spacetime (that is, to be superior to countably infinite 4-D structures).
Translation of yellow box: "Mages who have mastered the art of magic in various worlds and acquired the power to transcend time and space also lived in the world."
If Magus in the 4-D worlds draws power upon the Archives of the 5-D Heavenly Realm, then the Arbitrator in the 5-D Heavenly Realm will draw power upon the Clouds of even higher and more archetypal dimension, from this, it can be inferred that there is a 6-D structure that's superior to 5-D realm in the similar way that the 5-D realm being superior to infinite 4-D worlds.
Last but not least, we have the Akashic Record, the vortex of origin where all realities stemmed from, which is stated to be the pure and utter chaos that's unable to calculate by even those who have access to the Cloud such as Selina, with an inaccessible nature, and we know that it's a higher dimension as it's where the gods originate and belong to, who are stated to be higher dimensional concepts for numerous times. So this is a 7-D layer of transcendent existences, hence the only way to completely destroy them is to send attacks that transcend dimensions as well.
Obviously, there's a qualitative gap between these higher and lower dimensions, as according to Abyss Trinity, the Akashic Record is where infinite worlds exist within (or according to the glossary, the idea frame/underlying concept of something is the "prototype of all" within the Akashic Record, which means, the Akashic Records contain all things in nature as so far nothing in the verse is stated to exist without fundamental concept). To quote from our Tiering System FAQ's page:
One of the more straightforward ways to qualify for Tier 2 and up through higher dimensions is by affecting whole higher-dimensional universes which can embed the whole of lower-dimensional ones within themselves. For example: A cosmology where the entirety of our 3-dimensional universe is in fact a subset of a much greater 4-dimensional space, or generalizations of this same scenario to higher numbers of dimensions; i.e A cosmology where the four-dimensional spacetime continuum is just the infinitesimal surface of a 5-dimensional object, and etc.
So needless to say, the dimensions in Trinity do qualify as a 7-D model according to our standard, but to further showcase that the higher dimensions here are non-trivial in size rather than some sort of compact dimension, we are given a cosmological map that illustrates the higher dimension, the larger its size seems to be, with the baseline spacetime being the smallest dot in that map despite its infinite in size already. The map also shows us that the Akashic Record is located as the center of all creation and if the Akashic Record is already qualitatively superior to infinite worlds thanks to that nature, then the Heavenly Realm should be qualitatively superior to the 4-D spacetimes in the similar fashion as well since as I already said, it's the center of the 4-D universe. The fact that the Akashic Record also has transcendent, incomprehensible and inaccessible nature relative to 6-D structure being similar to how the Heavenly Realm is transcendent, incomprehensible and inaccessible to inhabitants of 4-D spacetimes further proves that all higher dimensions in the verse trivialize the lower dimensions with a similar extent.
Tldr:
Higher dimension of the Archives/Heavenly Realm: 5-D
Higher dimension of the Clouds: 6-D
The Akashic Record: 7-D
Agree: 23 (Setsuna_tenma, Reiner, PainKiller07, DarkDragonMedeus, Fikriskps, God900, Catpija, Planck69, Fixxed, Artorimachi_Meteoraft, Robo, PDB123456789, Shereen, Rabbit2002, Dereck03, EldemadeDityjon, Rendynoc0unter (Neutral about the Cloud), Lonkitt, Thunderian, Abstractly_a_Protagonist, Godsatoshi23,
Nexp06, Rakih_Elyan)
Disagree: 2 (Bobsican, ImmortalDread)
Neutral:
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