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Transduality Type 3 For Arceus(Original Spirit)

Dread said:
Wanna bet on it? Sure, 100$ if it won't be applied as TD type 3. Challenge accepted.
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Isn't that exactly what I've been saying for the past few hours?
Type 3 refers to characters whose existence belongs to alternate logical states which can't be described just by saying that they exist in both or neither state of a duality, but instead in a unique third state
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Sniper670 said:
The Spirit is removed from all states and R>F Nonduality. He is the unique third state
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Spirit is only removed from;
  • A is true
  • A is false
  • A is neither true nor false
It needs to also be removed from both true and false which you don't have right now.
 
The Spirit is in a state that can't be described as A is True, False, neither True nor False, and Both True and False
Type 3 refers to characters whose existence belongs to alternate logical states which can't be described just by saying that they exist in both or neither state of a duality, but instead in a unique third state
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Type 2 is being either both True and False, or neither True nor False

Type 3 is being indescribable by either of these states
 
This is hilarious. You demand for the Spirit to be Removed from Both True and False when duality in question cannot describe him. Where TF is the True and False to define him in the first place

Really funny
 
Sniper670 said:
The Spirit is in a state that can't be described as A is True, False, neither True nor False, and Both True and False
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Proof? Right now all your evidence gives is;
  • A is true
  • A is false
  • A is neither true nor false
I don't see "A is both true and false" anywhere.
 
There's no A is both True and False BECAUSE there's nothing like that for him

Type 3
Type 3 refers to characters whose existence belongs to alternate logical states which can't be described just by saying that they exist in both or neither state of a duality, but instead in a unique third state
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Sniper670 said:
This is hilarious. You demand for the Spirit to be Removed from Both True and False when duality in question cannot describe him. Where TF is the True and False to define him in the first place

Really funny
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Duality is only (0,1) not being able to be described by duality is just non duality which is either
  • Both true and false
  • Neither true nor false
You currently have A is true, A is false, A is neither true nor false (primordial chaos= indivisible oneness). You don't have anything that proves the original spirit is also beyond "both true and false", how many times do you want me to say this?
Just because you have the "neither" state doesn't mean you bypass the need to prove the "both" state is included
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Duality is only (0,1) not being able to be described by duality is just non duality which is either
  • Both true and false
  • Neither true nor false
You currently have A is true, A is false, A is neither true nor false (primordial chaos= indivisible oneness). You don't have anything that proves the original spirit is also beyond "both true and false", how many times do you want me to say this?
Just because you have the "neither" state doesn't mean you bypass the need to prove the "both" state is included
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You're wrong again.

If you cant be described by both True and False and Neither True Nor False, that's Type 3
 
sen_ said:
Proof of the former?
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Again
Type 2 refers to characters whose existence is described as either being in both states of a duality at once or in neither state.
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The Spirit doesn't fit this.
Type 3 refers to characters whose existence belongs to alternate logical states which can't be described just by saying that they exist in both or neither state of a duality, but instead in a unique third state.
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The Spirit fits this. Because it can't be described by saying it exists in both states or neither states but instead in a unique third state. Which is outside of both requirements for Type 2
 
sen_ said:
i asked where is the proof that he doesn't fit both states, all you've proven is he encompasses Neither A nor B which is the primordial chaos
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If he does not fit into neither True nor False to begin with how tf will it fit both True and False again?

You hearing yourself buddy?
 
Give proof of this statement @Sniper670 and you will make our life easier

both True and False and Neither True Nor False

PROOF, not assumption!

According to your logic, all TD type 2 users are now TD type 3
 
Dread said:
Give proof of this statement @Sniper670 and you will make our life easier

both True and False and Neither True Nor False

PROOF, not assumption!

According to your logic, all TD type 2 users are now TD type 3
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The Spirit is independent of Primordial Chaos and the multiverse itself. As both states are contained within his consciousness

Thus, he's not neither True Nor False, and won't fit both True and False BECAUSE of his absence from the values
 
Sniper670 said:
The Spirit is independent of Primordial Chaos and the multiverse itself. As both states are contained within his consciousness

Thus, he's not neither True Nor False, and won't fit both True and False BECAUSE of his absence from the values
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I said statement again
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Both states of duality= both 0 and 1
Spirit is only beyond neither 0 nor 1. Prove it is also beyond both 0 and 1 as indivisible oneness only gives it "neither 0 nor 1"
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If he's not neither True nor False, why would it need to be Both True and False when the requirements for Type 3 is to not fit both states
 
Sniper670 said:
If he does not fit into neither True nor False to begin with how tf will it fit both True and False again?

You hearing yourself buddy?
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It can as those two states still contradict each other. You have to prove he is beyond both states of the duality as well. Just cause he is beyond neither of the states doesn't he can't be described as both
 
Tatsumi504 said:
It can as those two states still contradict each other. You have to prove he is beyond both states of the duality as well. Just cause he is beyond neither of the states doesn't he can't be described as both
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You don't.

He does not fit both states. Those are the requirements.
 
Dread said:
Again, I said proof and not assumption/or your own interpretation.
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What proof. He predates NonDuality and the multiverse alike and contains it within himself. With the multiverse being a representation of him

He's beyond everything in the cosmology
 
Sniper670 said:
What proof. He predates NonDuality and the multiverse alike and contains it within himself. With the multiverse being a representation of him

He's beyond everything in the cosmology
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bro, first of all, your second statement is literally nonsense, ya I can say a person is omnipotent and he got everything.
I said proof
 
Sniper670 said:
Encompassing in the sense that they're contained inside of him, they're not him
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Sniper670 said:
The Spirit is independent of Primordial Chaos and the multiverse itself. As both states are contained within his consciousness

Thus, he's not neither True Nor False, and won't fit both True and False BECAUSE of his absence from the values
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he encompasses them so i don't see how he is absent from them, actually it's quite the opposite as his being includes those values.
 
Dread said:
bro, first of all, your second statement is literally nonsense, ya I can say a person is omnipotent and he got everything.
I said proof
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He transcends everything

Everything exists inside the Spirit, which is mind. R>F Mind that has everything in it

The multiverse is a representation of the Spirit of the Pokémon who created the world
I guess you could think that this kind of world was a representation of the spirit of the Pokémon who created it! Uh-huh... When the spirit sprouted, the world was created... When the spirit grew up, space, time were born...
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sen_ said:
he encompasses them so i don't see how he is absent from them, actually it's quite the opposite as his being includes those values.
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Everything exists inside the primordial Consciousness.

They're not him, it's contained inside him. In fact the multiverse is a representation of him, so that throws your argument in the gutter
 
Tatsumi504 said:
He predates only 1 state of non duality.
Non duality has two states, both and neither. Just cause you have the neither doesn't automatically mean you're beyond both
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You're getting it Wrong. The Spirit is outside of Neither True nor False.

That automatically excludes him from being both True and False because those values don't exist to begin with

Which is why Type 2 requires you to be
1. Both True and False
2. Neither True nor False

While Transduality requires you to be outside of
1. Both True and False
2. Neither True nor False
 
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