Tower of God General Discussion Thread Part 5

[EldemadeDityjon]

Wait based on what?

During 43rd floor arc inhabitants of that floor were able to resurrect/Regenerate thanks to their soul was divided from their bodied and kept it somewhere and it worked as immortality for them. Yuri was able to negate their Regeneration and immortality with Sword Series ignition.
Baam also has feat for cutting off connection for another character during previous arc before Traumeri entry. Might work as immortality type 6 or something for that. Because that worked like a parasitic connection.

I'll look into the scans when I have time.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

1 i wasn't trying to compare 2 verse, it was an example that i won't matter in an actual CRT
2&3 I think that it's fine to have the Tower Mechanic as actual power since it also can give resistance against the Irregulars power(Traumerei can't control "humans" because their will are guarenteed by one law of the Tower)
4 Yes, the flow of time is also different inside and outside the tower
5 everything about the Regulars are governed by the Tower, it is also impossible for a Regular to go outside the Tower only those with Specials power Irregulars can enter and go outside. Admin are part of the Tower, they are not even actual character per se.
6 Boundary manipulation(they limit everything inside the Tower)
7 Stamina Manipulation the link is here.
8 Nah, Traumerei dominated the Shinsu where they are, they can't use it at all, they weren't even able to use Shinsu through item.
9 Just Like Irregular, Administators are also Transcendent Beings but not of the same kind, the fate reading of Guides doesn't work without Admin(SIU only said Zahard cannot win against the Floor Guardian)
10 while it is true that tower born can mindhax each other, Irregular can't mindhax them
11 Ok with "specify that it can partially stop one's brain processes"
12 The golem was only damageable by using Piercing Techinqhe not that it was made to explode. Also, Piercing techninque the strongest way(there is other ways to do it) to attack an opponent by manipulating the Shinsu inside your opponent. The PT used by Jinsung is a basic nonamed move, not the strongest nor FUG signature move nor Junsung's own signature move.
The just because we have seen is put hole in people doesn't mean it doesn't completly destroy the boby and it doesn't even stop at the victim vut also destroy the surrounding, everyone in the verse has a natural resistance to energy manip and that resistance increase the higher you go, so it is not an antifeat for PT but a feat for the victims. Like, imagine saying they need to be in contact with you to stop you with RFC and it doesn't last more than onle second and on top of that the victim can still think.
13 for info hax we know that i am not everyone use it the same way. the big breeders have the power to manipulate the Hidden Floor like Admin(Data Zahard created them and to do it and D.Zahard himself can do it). Administrator can do whatever the big breeders do and better than them (Type 2 info: This can allow characters to rewrite the world to their whims, often by programming it much like they would a virtual reality. These manipulation can come on many levels. For some it might just be the mechanism behind mundane magical abilities, while others can rewrite information to change reality, causality or the laws of nature.)
14 Layered sealing negation it works fine, the higher spell break the lower by law.

 

[Arceus0x]

During 43rd floor arc inhabitants of that floor were able to resurrect/Regenerate thanks to their soul was divided from their bodied and kept it somewhere and it worked as immortality for them. Yuri was able to negate their Regeneration and immortality with Sword Series ignition.
Baam also has feat for cutting off connection for another character during previous arc before Traumeri entry. Might work as immortality type 6 or something for that. Because that worked like a parasitic connection.

I'll look into the scans when I have time.

the entire thing was based off of the fact that the sword series and Bam can negate spells and their immortality was based off of a spell.

 

[Arceus0x]

1 i wasn't trying to compare 2 verse, it was an example that i won't matter in an actual CRT

good

2&3 I think that it's fine to have the Tower Mechanic as actual power since it also can give resistance against the Irregulars power(Traumerei can't control "humans" because their will are guarenteed by one law of the Tower)

can you show me the scan for the Traumerei thing? Cause if that is the case then I will agree with you

4 Yes, the flow of time is also different inside and outside the tower

wait since when?

5 everything about the Regulars are governed by the Tower, it is also impossible for a Regular to go outside the Tower only those with Specials power Irregulars can enter and go outside. Admin are part of the Tower, they are not even actual character per se.

They are though, the tower's power exists without the admins. For example, you can still use shinsu inside the floor of death even with a dead admin. Additionally the moment the admin died they could use shinsu but they their longevity vanished, that being the reason why they made the soul sealing spell. This means that admins are simply a character and their influence shouldn't be part of every random person's personal abilities. If a knight fights while being supported by a healer the knight wouldn't get a healing ability would he?

6 Boundary manipulation(they limit everything inside the Tower)

that's just law manip, boundy manip isn't a thing on this wiki

7 Stamina Manipulation the link is here.

while this would make sense, in an actual CRT you need to add a proper scan of that specific statement as wiki links or chapter links wouldn't do the trick. Get a scan and upload it to imgur (just make sure not to accidentally post it for everyone to see, just have it as a private post and send links)

8 Nah, Traumerei dominated the Shinsu where they are, they can't use it at all, they weren't even able to use Shinsu through item.

I will need to re-read that moment

9 Just Like Irregular, Administators are also Transcendent Beings but not of the same kind, the fate reading of Guides doesn't work without Admin(SIU only said Zahard cannot win against the Floor Guardian)

first of all you're gonna need proper scans for Guide abilities not working without an admin. Second, Jahad not beating an admin just means he is too weak to do so, not that he cannot read his fate.

10 while it is true that tower born can mindhax each other, Irregular can't mindhax them

you mean the thing about Traum's abilities? Once I see scans that their abilities are restricted I might agree.

11 Ok with "specify that it can partially stop one's brain processes"

ok

12 The golem was only damageable by using Piercing Techinqhe not that it was made to explode. Also, Piercing techninque the strongest way(there is other ways to do it) to attack an opponent by manipulating the Shinsu inside your opponent. The PT used by Jinsung is a basic nonamed move, not the strongest nor FUG signature move nor Junsung's own signature move.
The just because we have seen is put hole in people doesn't mean it doesn't completly destroy the boby and it doesn't even stop at the victim vut also destroy the surrounding, everyone in the verse has a natural resistance to energy manip and that resistance increase the higher you go, so it is not an antifeat for PT but a feat for the victims. Like, imagine saying they need to be in contact with you to stop you with RFC and it doesn't last more than onle second and on top of that the victim can still think.

The issue is, we never actually see the technique destroy more than a hole in one's body. You need actual serious evidence that it can do more than just that and the golem here isn't really good evidence since it is essentially a training dummy. Additionally, any of Bam's attacks right now (current arc) would pulverize a regular due to sheer force. Same applies here, sheer force can destroy the opponents.
Then there's the main issue, why would anyone gain high mid regen from it? Nobody every took enough damage to have to regen on that level - you said it yourself, everyone has resistance to energy manipulation. This means that it is in fact just their resistance letting them survive it, not some absurd degree of regen.

13 for info hax we know that i am not everyone use it the same way. the big breeders have the power to manipulate the Hidden Floor like Admin(Data Zahard created them and to do it and D.Zahard himself can do it). Administrator can do whatever the big breeders do and better than them (Type 2 info: This can allow characters to rewrite the world to their whims, often by programming it much like they would a virtual reality. These manipulation can come on many levels. For some it might just be the mechanism behind mundane magical abilities, while others can rewrite information to change reality, causality or the laws of nature.)

I think I'll just talk to a mod here that knows about info hax and whether it qualifies.

14 Layered sealing negation it works fine, the higher spell break the lower by law.

you don't understand. To prove that layers work you need to prove that it breaks layers of resistance. Let's say Jimmy has resistance to mind manip. You break his mind resistance and mind control him, that's one layer. Now Jimmy has even better resistance and resists your mind manipulation and thus he gets 2 layers.
To prove that they have layered sealing negation you need scans that prove that one sealing negation cannot destroy the bigger seal and thus needs higher negation.

 

[Arceus0x]

I'll add more later about the other points.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

the entire thing was based off of the fact that the sword series and Bam can negate spells and their immortality was based off of a spell.

There was a scan for Baam negating the connection not spell
Also Sword Series didn't destroy the spell. Inhabitants were still alive it only negated their Regeneration so far as I remember

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

@Arceus0x actually you are right about Sword Series breaking the spell thus negating the Immortality but I don't see the same thing for Baam. He just killed them with his Shinso.

 

[Arceus0x]

@Arceus0x actually you are right about Sword Series breaking the spell thus negating the Immortality but I don't see the same thing for Baam. He just killed them with his Shinso.

that is his powernull powers that he uses on many occasions, even at the very moment he jumps down from the hell train where Karak tries to jump them

 

[Arceus0x]

I agree with Yastracha scaling for the most part, though ngl it might be somewhat limited since Traum's mind control only spreads onto beasts and beastmen.

Akrinak would have 2 layers of mind hax since High rankers have a layer of resistance.

If we were to use Traum's mind control it would be 3 layers with Yastracha reaching 3 layers of resistance later.

Now

Disagree fully with resistance to existance erasure. They aren't actively resisting erasure, they are simply not being erased due to following the rules of the tower. Basically, the tower could destroy them, but at the same time it won't because they are part of it and are following the rules. Overall, it's not really a resistance.

Disagree with Bam controlling souls on the outside, he hasn't shown that beyond absorbing White's soul.

The abilities you list after have no explanation

The rest of what is mentioned I'll only address once you have all the proper scans in place.

 

[ImNot4nUser]

Sincerely, on the mind thing of stuff. White is nuts, since he is fine with having tens of millions of souls despite the fact that you have to withstand their bitternes and resentment, which is so much that it shatters the mind and kills you due to shock. We're talking he is unaffected by what could very well be said tens of millions of souls mentally attacking you with their negative emotions and feelings.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

can you show me the scan for the Traumerei thing? Cause if that is the case then I will agree with you

Spoiler: Will

https://comick.io/comic/02-tower-of-god/mm85Ui3m-chapter-626-en

Anyway, he can do t now by using Shinheuhs instead of doing it directly, he can also modify your biology

Most of Traumerei free time was used to find a way to bypass that law

wait since when?

A good supportive evidence for this is the Hidden floor which is based on a real floor having its own flow of time(1+ month inside = seconds to minutes outside), there are also fewer days in the year in the tower.

Then there's the main issue, why would anyone gain high mid regen from it? Nobody every took enough damage to have to regen on that level - you said it yourself, everyone has resistance to energy manipulation. This means that it is in fact just their resistance letting them survive it, not some absurd degree of regen.

You need to understand that PT affect the whole body and not just the part in contact with your opponent, physical contacts are not needed for PT(just like RFC), you can do it from range. I didn't say those who have survived it have "high mid regen", what i was saying is that the level of destruction caused by a PT is complete body destruction [Baam should've won https://vsbattles.com/threads/7-c-tournament-semifinals-match-1-shirley-vs-twenty-fifth-baam.128431/ ]

I am not saying that PT's victims have high mid regen, i am saying the dammage it cause to those without resistance is complete body destruction high mid regen

you don't understand. To prove that layers work you need to prove that it breaks layers of resistance

You need to understand that in TOG Spell have Spell negation themself.

I agree with Yastracha scaling for the most part, though ngl it might be somewhat limited since Traum's mind control only spreads onto beasts and beastmen.

Like i already said, Traumerei's mindcontrol don't work on "Human" because of the Law of the Tower, Traumerei's mindcontrol even work on Plant(Gran Abuelo) and a creature that is nothing in itself but can become anything and without meaning (Enkidu)

Disagree fully with resistance to existance erasure. They aren't actively resisting erasure, they are simply not being erased due to following the rules of the tower. Basically, the tower could destroy them, but at the same time it won't because they are part of it and are following the rules. Overall, it's not really a resistance.

What do you mean by "they are simply not being erased due to following the rules of the tower" ? Are you saying that the Irregular follow the rules ?
Being outside of the laws of the in the Tower even if it's only one law get you erased from it.

Disagree with Bam controlling souls on the outside, he hasn't shown that beyond absorbing White's soul.

The abilities you list after have no explanation

The rest of what is mentioned I'll only address once you have all the proper scans in place.

Which ones ??

 

[Arceus0x]

Spoiler: Will

https://comick.io/comic/02-tower-of-god/mm85Ui3m-chapter-626-en

Anyway, he can do t now by using Shinheuhs instead of doing it directly, he can also modify your biology

Most of Traumerei free time was used to find a way to bypass that law

I agree with the resistance to mind hax then

A good supportive evidence for this is the Hidden floor which is based on a real floor having its own flow of time(1+ month inside = seconds to minutes outside), there are also fewer days in the year in the tower.

That is fair then. Get proper picture scans though, you'll need them for the CRT

You need to understand that PT affect the whole body and not just the part in contact with your opponent, physical contacts are not needed for PT(just like RFC), you can do it from range. I didn't say those who have survived it have "high mid regen", what i was saying is that the level of destruction caused by a PT is complete body destruction [Baam should've won https://vsbattles.com/threads/7-c-tournament-semifinals-match-1-shirley-vs-twenty-fifth-baam.128431/ ]

I am not saying that PT's victims have high mid regen, i am saying the dammage it cause to those without resistance is complete body destruction high mid regen

I still disagree since we never see it affect the whole body damage-wisse. Revebrating through the body only means that the vibrations from the attack shook his body significantly. The actual damage is localized on his abdomen.

You need to understand that in TOG Spell have Spell negation themself.

And you need to bring in proper scans to support this.

Like i already said, Traumerei's mindcontrol don't work on "Human" because of the Law of the Tower, Traumerei's mindcontrol even work on Plant(Gran Abuelo) and a creature that is nothing in itself but can become anything and without meaning (Enkidu)

I agree with all forms of mind control resistance now.

What do you mean by "they are simply not being erased due to following the rules of the tower" ? Are you saying that the Irregular follow the rules ?
Being outside of the laws of the in the Tower even if it's only one law get you erased from it.

I don't see how. Irregulars don't follow the rules because they are irregulars and thus ignore the whole law thing, it is in their nature. Regulars are supposed to follow the rules and so if you break them you get destroyed by the admins. Yet again it is a power more so related to admins, not to the tower.

Which ones ??

I'll reply in a bit

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

I still disagree since we never see it affect the whole body damage-wisse

Do you also think that the actual damage of Zahard PT is only localized on Baam's abdomen ?

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I don't see how. Irregulars don't follow the rules because they are irregulars and thus ignore the whole law thing, it is in their nature. Regulars are supposed to follow the rules and so if you break them you get destroyed by the admins. Yet again it is a power more so related to admins, not to the tower.

The reason why Aria is getting erased is because she is outside a law, not because she is breaking a law. What happened at the NHS is different from Aria's case, even their way of being erased if different. That nonamed guy from the NHS was erased because he was an outlaw. Aria was getting erased because she wasn't bound to the law.
Even if Aria was to be freed from all the law of the Tower like a Irregular she will still get erased because the cause(being unbound by the law of the Tower) of the erasure won't change.

 

[Arceus0x]

Do you also think that the actual damage of Zahard PT is only localized on Baam's abdomen ?

His explosion wave is ranged and you get damaged once it comes into contact. Problem is, it clearly isn't the same as Bam's explosion wave, which IS contact based and localized on the abdomen. Additionally in your own example Zahard never actually hits Bam through his entire body, just the areas that came into contact with the shinsu.

The reason why Aria is getting erased is because she is outside a law, not because she is breaking a law. What happened at the NHS is different from Aria's case, even their way of being erased if different. That nonamed guy from the NHS was erased because he was an outlaw. Aria was getting erased because she wasn't bound to the law.
Even if Aria was to be freed from all the law of the Tower like a Irregular she will still get erased because the cause(being unbound by the law of the Tower) of the erasure won't change.

Either way it isn't a resistance. Following the law prevents the tower from erasing you, it doesn't protect you from a power that erases people.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

His explosion wave is ranged and you get damaged once it comes into contact. Problem is, it clearly isn't the same as Bam's explosion wave, which IS contact based and localized on the abdomen. Additionally in your own example Zahard never actually hits Bam through his entire body, just the areas that came into contact with the shinsu.

I already showed you that you don't need physical contact to performe a PT, why are you still talking about it ? It is just easier to do it the closer you are from your victim, just like RFC. You can see that Baam is covered of wounds.

Following the law prevents the tower from erasing you, it doesn't protect you from a power that erases people.

Isn't the whole point of Irregulars being Irrational beings who don't follow the laws ?

Anyway, can someone calc it ?

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[Arceus0x]

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Waddup, it's me and my boy @ImNot4nUser here with a big ol' revision that'll reverse flow control your socks off. First off Family Heads should be High 6-A Basically, this is what is said about Zahard The power of Zahard can tear apart the Hidden Floor. The hidden floor is, well, a floor...

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[BeTheWay1rst]

Fate and Death hax for Administrators and Enkidu(who is a weapon for Traumerei)

"I can bestow a fitting death on anyone except the great pioneers." - Enkidu
Irregulars aren't governed by the Tower as Transcendent Beings so, it doesn't work on them.

About Administrators Attack Potency and Lifting Strength:
Since even splitting clouds ( https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DemonGodMitchAubin/Black_Clover:_Asta_splits_the_clouds ) can give high result then something better like moving the Entiere Superdense Atmosphere of a Supercontinent into a single point should give even higher results by logical.
Can somebody calc it ? It should give a better result than https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arceus0x/Admininstrator_Floor_destruction_REMIX
Only Administrators Enryu and Phantaminum scale to is for now.

 

[Arceus0x]

Fate and Death hax for Administrators and Enkidu(who is a weapon for Traumerei)

"I can bestow a fitting death on anyone except the great pioneers." - Enkidu
Irregulars aren't governed by the Tower as Transcendent Beings so, it doesn't work on them.

About Administrators Attack Potency and Lifting Strength:
Since even splitting clouds ( https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DemonGodMitchAubin/Black_Clover:_Asta_splits_the_clouds ) can give high result then something better like moving the Entiere Superdense Atmosphere of a Supercontinent into a single point should give even higher results by logical.
Can somebody calc it ? It should give a better result than https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arceus0x/Admininstrator_Floor_destruction_REMIX
Only Administrators Enryu and Phantaminum scale to is for now.

here's the deal, can you prove that the Admins can move the entire atmosphere? Cause for now I have a calc that simply makes the assumption that they can use the entire shinsu of the floor to attack everything with one big explosion which makes sense, but something like moving all shinsu into a small point? Nah. Then there's the following issue - you need the timeframe of a feat like that. We don't know how fast it would move and due to that we cannot calculate it since moving something into one point would be a Kinetic Energy calc. Since we don't have the feat actually happen and we don't know the timeframe, we can only use the current calc we already have.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

here's the deal, can you prove that the Admins can move the entire atmosphere?

Yes, just like Red Thryssa - Blood Messiah

 

[Arceus0x]

Yes, just like Red Thryssa - Blood Messiah

could you send scans? If you do I might figure something out

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

could you send scans? If you do I might figure something out

They can also do it in a short timeframe since it's an attack https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-2-ep-253/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=334

 

[Arceus0x]

They can also do it in a short timeframe since it's an attack https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-2-ep-253/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=334

Let me give you a quick rundown of what's needed to make this calc possible.
1. How far were Bam's friends from the scene of the battle
2. The time it took for the shinsu to get sucked out from there (can be determined via calculating time by words or by standard panel time assumption)

We get this and we get the speed.
Now let me show you how the feat will look like.
Shinsu is dense so him moving it would be like moving water at the bare minimum.
Radius of a floor is 4868.389 kilometers and the height is harder. I think the best thought here is this, the suspendium tower in the middle of the nest is about twice as big as the third wall of the nest which is calculated to be 110km so that means the minimum height of a tower floor would be over 220km so let's use that for now.
It's unclear whether the tower is a cylinder or not but let's say it is.
Volume of a floor = 16381101393627235235.59 m^3
Density of water is 998kg per m^3 so 1.6348339e+22 kg.

So the time it took around 5 panels for the shinsu to get affected at the area where Yuri and the rest were. Standard timeframe for a panel is 5 seconds so 25 seconds at least.
We don't know how far Yuri and the rest were but very far to the point where the mountains were far from the point where they fought. Let's assume it is 10km for easiness sake at the moment since this is a rough draft. 10000/25 = 400 m/s so now we have the speed at which an admin can move the shinsu (obviously these are estimates and not full calculations rn)

Putting all the stuff into a KE calculator we get 1,30786712e+27 joules which is 312 Petatons of TNT - High 6-A

I think I'll try this calc out later and maybe I'll make something worth it.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Let me give you a quick rundown of what's needed to make this calc possible.
1. How far were Bam's friends from the scene of the battle
2. The time it took for the shinsu to get sucked out from there (can be determined via calculating time by words or by standard panel time assumption)

We get this and we get the speed.
Now let me show you how the feat will look like.
Shinsu is dense so him moving it would be like moving water at the bare minimum.
Radius of a floor is 4868.389 kilometers and the height is harder. I think the best thought here is this, the suspendium tower in the middle of the nest is about twice as big as the third wall of the nest which is calculated to be 110km so that means the minimum height of a tower floor would be over 220km so let's use that for now.
It's unclear whether the tower is a cylinder or not but let's say it is.
Volume of a floor = 16381101393627235235.59 m^3
Density of water is 998kg per m^3 so 1.6348339e+22 kg.

So the time it took around 5 panels for the shinsu to get affected at the area where Yuri and the rest were. Standard timeframe for a panel is 5 seconds so 25 seconds at least.
We don't know how far Yuri and the rest were but very far to the point where the mountains were far from the point where they fought. Let's assume it is 10km for easiness sake at the moment since this is a rough draft. 10000/25 = 400 m/s so now we have the speed at which an admin can move the shinsu (obviously these are estimates and not full calculations rn)

Putting all the stuff into a KE calculator we get 1,30786712e+27 joules which is 312 Petatons of TNT - High 6-A

I think I'll try this calc out later and maybe I'll make something worth it.

Just additional stuff for Administrators power

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[BeTheWay1rst]

Let me give you a quick rundown of what's needed to make this calc possible.
1. How far were Bam's friends from the scene of the battle
2. The time it took for the shinsu to get sucked out from there (can be determined via calculating time by words or by standard panel time assumption)

We get this and we get the speed.
Now let me show you how the feat will look like.
Shinsu is dense so him moving it would be like moving water at the bare minimum.
Radius of a floor is 4868.389 kilometers and the height is harder. I think the best thought here is this, the suspendium tower in the middle of the nest is about twice as big as the third wall of the nest which is calculated to be 110km so that means the minimum height of a tower floor would be over 220km so let's use that for now.
It's unclear whether the tower is a cylinder or not but let's say it is.
Volume of a floor = 16381101393627235235.59 m^3
Density of water is 998kg per m^3 so 1.6348339e+22 kg.

So the time it took around 5 panels for the shinsu to get affected at the area where Yuri and the rest were. Standard timeframe for a panel is 5 seconds so 25 seconds at least.
We don't know how far Yuri and the rest were but very far to the point where the mountains were far from the point where they fought. Let's assume it is 10km for easiness sake at the moment since this is a rough draft. 10000/25 = 400 m/s so now we have the speed at which an admin can move the shinsu (obviously these are estimates and not full calculations rn)

Putting all the stuff into a KE calculator we get 1,30786712e+27 joules which is 312 Petatons of TNT - High 6-A

I think I'll try this calc out later and maybe I'll make something worth it.

The the minimum height of a tower floor would be higher than the size of the Hell Train and the last Station combined, i would say around 1000 Km
Look at those shots

 

[Arceus0x]

The the minimum height of a tower floor would be higher than the size of the Hell Train and the last Station combined, i would say around 1000 Km
Look at those shots

The issue with the higher shot is that is is panned down which means we don't see the actual height.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

The issue with the higher shot is that is is panned down which means we don't see the actual height.

We know that Evan is far away from the Station outside of their range, he also isn't close to the top of the floor

So the time it took around 5 panels for the shinsu to get affected at the area where Yuri and the rest were. Standard timeframe for a panel is 5 seconds so 25 seconds at least.
We don't know how far Yuri and the rest were but very far to the point where the mountains were far from the point where they fought. Let's assume it is 10km for easiness sake at the moment since this is a rough draft. 10000/25 = 400 m/s so now we have the speed at which an admin can move the shinsu

Don't we only need the timeframe of the feat to get that speed ? Since the distance traveled by the Shinsu is the whole floor, the lowest End should be the Radius and the Highest End the Diameter.

 

[Arceus0x]

We know that Evan is far away from the Station outside of their range, he also isn't close to the top of the floor

Still not really proof of any height, all we simply get is that he is above it. I also don't wanna use the distance to the train here to get the height since the size of the train during that arc was incredibly inconsistent.

Don't we only need the timeframe of the feat to get that speed ? Since the distance traveled by the Shinsu is the whole floor, the lowest End should be the Radius and the Highest End the Diameter.

Nah because what we need is to see how fast the shinsu moves under the admins control, thus we need that distance since we cannot assume an admin would move all shinsu at the same speed.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

we cannot assume an admin would move all shinsu at the same speed.

We don't need to assume an admin would move all shinsu at the same speed, the timeframe and the distance doesn't change, so, even if he doesn't move the Shinsu at the same speed from the start to the end it doesn't change the result.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Still not really proof of any height

You only need that single shot and do some pixelscaling (Green April shockwave and the last station) to scale the height of the floor to at least 4 time the size of the last station

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Also, why are we downplaying TOG ? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DemonGodMitchAubin/Tower_of_God:_Floor_Destruction
We have what we need to know the surface area of the Tower Arceus0x

https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-1-ep-10/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=11
https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-2-ep-152/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=233

 

[Arceus0x]

Also, why are we downplaying TOG ? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DemonGodMitchAubin/Tower_of_God:_Floor_Destruction
We have what we need to know the surface area of the Tower Arceus0x

https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-1-ep-10/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=11
https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-2-ep-152/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=233

We ain't downplaying, we're going off what is said by SIU that the outer tower = middle+inner tower and outer tower being the area of the american continent.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

the outer tower = middle+inner tower

Source ?

 

[Arceus0x]

Source ?

Structure of the Tower

The Tower is the world and setting of Tower of God. There are currently 135 confirmed Floors, though the Zahard Empire has only expanded up to the 134th Floor, as Zahard has yet to conquer the 135th Floor. The Outer Tower of each Floor is the size of the Americas,[1] making the Tower at least 11...

towerofgod.fandom.com

Look at the first source in the references list, it has the og source and the translations

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Structure of the Tower

The Tower is the world and setting of Tower of God. There are currently 135 confirmed Floors, though the Zahard Empire has only expanded up to the 134th Floor, as Zahard has yet to conquer the 135th Floor. The Outer Tower of each Floor is the size of the Americas,[1] making the Tower at least 11...

towerofgod.fandom.com

Look at the first source in the references list, it has the og source and the translations

2. The Outer Tower is the residental district of the habitants, and each floor of the Outer Tower is as large as the continent of America on Earth.
No mention of "the outer tower = middle+inner tower"

 

[Arceus0x]

2. The Outer Tower is the residental district of the habitants, and each floor of the Outer Tower is as large as the continent of America on Earth.
No mention of "the outer tower = middle+inner tower"

I misremembered but it does say the middle tower is smaller than the outer tower which means that we cannot use the images shown above

 

[ImNot4nUser]

Also, unlike the Outer tower which size is consistent in all levels, the Middle Area of each floor varies from one another, so we are also taking an estimate with that calculation.

 

[ImNot4nUser]

Also Yuri, Jinsung Ha and Kallavan should be stonewalls with durability 9 times higher than their own Attack Potency

 

[Arceus0x]

Current CRT is done

I think we need to make a proper cleanup CRT with adding scans and most importantly references to everything, as well as a few things like separating Data Zahard and Eduan from their main profiles

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Current CRT is done

I think we need to make a proper cleanup CRT with adding scans and most importantly references to everything, as well as a few things like separating Data Zahard and Eduan from their main profiles

Oh great

Btw you working on Dumas profile?

 

[Arceus0x]

Oh great

Btw you working on Dumas profile?

once the full Bam v Dumas fight is out on available Webtoon chapters we'll add them. Same goes for Traum's and Gustang's abilities