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Tower of God Discussion General

RinkakuKagune said:
I seriously disagree again. Didn't you read my post fully? Zahard 10 times beaten a man who could fight evenly against Urek. And Urek himself is At least High 6-B because even when multiplying his 10% feat to 100% he was still significantly restricted by Hell Joe nullifying Shinsoo. Zahard doesn't have to be that many times stronger than Urek to be 6-A. The difference between baseline and the cap of High 6-B is only 7.6x. And Urek is around 3x more powerful than baseline remember? It doesn't make sense for Zahard to be that much stronger than him and still be in the same Tier which has a small gap anyway.
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and u do realize urek took the hon's test and fought evenly with him before he became a ranker right?? so current urek would be a lot stronger than his 100th floor self.

I don't think that should be a valid reason as to why zahard should be much superior
 
Enryu The Red Tower said:
And now that I've realized that Baam, Data Zahard and Data Maschenny (Base or Redan) has become stronger than 95% of Fairy Tail Universe... LOL
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what are u talking about? acno, white zeref, natsu, irene, august, rahkeid, dimaria, gildarts and so on would mop the floor with them solo xD
 
@El

I said that since Baam, Data Maschenny and Data Zahard are 6-C now because of the lightning storm calc of Data Maschenny? the Fairy Tail High Tiers are Mountain level, City level and I'm telling you that by taking Fairy Tail's High 6-C, 6-B and High 6-B the three stomp 95% of the Universe of Fairy Tail since few characters in this Verse are tier 6 and Enryu stomps Fairy Tail Universe.

Dimaria is 7-B + with a 7-A transformation and it was also said that if someone with huge difference in strength their time stop does not work and I remember that Natsu 7-A managed to easily overcome her time stop when Dimaria was in 7- B + then I do not doubt that a 6-C does it any more easily, Laracarde is a 7-A and while Baam, Data Zahard and Data Maschenny are 6-C then the three can easily one-shot Lacarde, Irene in their human form will be one-shot by any of the three excluding his Dragon form, Auguts stomp the three, if we are talking about Gildarts Low7-B + this will be one-shot with ease but if you are talking about Gildarts High 6-C then he one -shot the three, Acnologa and FH Zeref took the three of them anyway.

Did you happen to notice that Baam, Data Zahard and Data Maschenny were upgraded to 6-C?
 
I get ur first point, but the idea of them stomping 95% of the verse merely cuz difference in power? i don't agree. The fairytail verse is on serious hax with steroids. Even if larcade is only mountain level, in a speed equal match he would most likely slaughter zahard and co, cuz they can't resist his magic, RIP, hunger, or pleasure, it such as nasty combination its not funny. I also don't see these 3 beating kyoka from tartaros (the chick that can increase sensitivity to pain indefinitely), there are many other characters but no need listing them out since we will be going seriously off topic.

Ah i agree with ya there, enryu stomps the verse LOL, no denying that.

Yes i saw the upgrade of baam and co to 6C, but i was a little bit shocked tho, 6C seems really high, i was thinking at best mountain level. I am no calcer but if her lightning storm feat was really a 6C then no problems.
 
@El

Wait are you saying that Lacarde could kill Real Zahard or Data Zahard? No matter, the difference between the AP and Durability between the two is too big for the Larcade Hax to save it and also Zahard scale to be vastly superior to Data Maschenny who did that lightning storm that resulted in 8 Gigatons and while Larcade is scaled for 200 Megatons, and over Kyôka, any Zahard attack can kill her, even with her Hax, the AP is too big to ignore and she scale to 19 Megatons, and even with unequal speed in match, Data Zahard scales to to be a Massively Hypersonic High-End for being vastly superior to Koo Ran who is Mach 836, and also I have seen that Larcade is scaled to 4829 Mach and Kyôka scale to be greater than 1381 Mach. Kyôka does not have nearly twice the speed to blitz Date Zahard or Larcade only has 4X speed greater than Data Zahard, this is not even half of what is needed for blitz.

Yep.

And also i had been surprised with 6-C, it seems that Baam reached Tier 6 sooner than we expected.
 
Quick question, Baam, Rak, Aguero and the others participating in that 1 month training with Data Koon Eduan, was it a non-stop, non-stop training for 1 month or did they rest? If they have not rested, I think we can scaling that to the resistance of Verse Mid-Tiers, High-Tiers, and God-Tiers. Since this was a feat of resistance between Low-Tiers characters.
 
But if he kills everyone on the train, wouldn't he also kill the 2 prince of the red light district. They're kinda like his children, carrying his blood.

Edit: They also have the rings that can open the 135th floor.
 
I'm tryna figure out how they're gonna kill Yuri and Evan. That's gonna be wild.

And F.U.G as well. Jin Hansung is an absolute beast, and he's not even the strongest member of Fug. Even though he gives out three orders, if there's multiple people receiving them, then it's possible that all three might be carried out. Though killing everyone on the hell train is likely the easiest one. I don't think anyone wants to mess with Fug or the Pidau family unless they really have to.
 
Po bidau family probably hid themselves, i'm pretty sure that gustang being a smart guy would have already calculated something like this to happen.

Also FUG being a huge organization with many skilled member, it's very highly to not be targeted.

So that leaves the hell train to be targeted, a place for people that are ranked d in the tower. So who is gonna save baam this time, fug or enryu.
 
I have a question, should we add Precognition to Enryu? Remember that Grand De Jah gained powers of seeing the future just by looking at Enryu? I think we should also add Power Bestowal also to Enryu since, Grand De Jah was able to get Precognition just by looking at Enryu.
 
Whatever happened to calcing Urek's mirror feat? And setting that aside he was already confirmed to have light speed shinsoo so that should be added as well.
 
JBennett said:
That prolouge to the war was amazing looking, and by the looks of it we've barly scratch the surface of it if that first attack did nothing to him, looked massive considering the size of the ship.
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I do not know why, but Maschenny Zahard Army vs Ha Jinsung reminded me of Asura vs Olga Army (Game Asura's Wrath)...
 
Can we update Data Zahard and Baam to be at least three times stronger than Redan Mashcenny? Zahard casually one-shot her and suffered no harm with her Great Spear of Dawn.
 
Enryu The Red Tower said:
Can we update Data Zahard and Baam to be at least three times stronger than Redan Mashcenny? Zahard casually one-shot her and suffered no harm with her Great Spear of Dawn.
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why three times? at least twice as stronge would be safer.
 
Was this Baam feat in Enryu's Thorn Ignition Mode? Since only his awakening in this mode seems to have done it.

Baam shaking the Hidden Floor was what Data Eduan had quoted at the beginning of the chapter 304?
 
Yeah, it's a feat with the thorn, he does it right before he takes Zahard's arm off with Endless Sky. Also, Zahard states he has the power to shake the world.
 
I've seen the calc, it seems that you quoted from the size of each floor is the size of the America Continent, when you quoted this you spoke of the America Continent totally (Being America South, North and Central) or speaking that it is the size of North America? For in the Wiki itself it is quoted that the Outer Tower is the size of North America:

https://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/The_Tower

And it seems that Baam did it casually as this was via awakening, which means that I can do the rematch between Zoro and Data Zahard.
 
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