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Tower of God Discussion General

Then I'll create the profile of Wangan, and I'll make the description of Antimatter Bomb togheter to the link in the chapter.

But, should I put AP of Wangan as Unknown physically and Low 7-C with Bombs and Antimatter Bombs? Should I also put him ImmortalityType 2?

And I also changed the justification for Karaka and Yuri's Striking Strength, I think you should check it out.
 
Okay, I shall upon waking.

I think that's good for Wangan. I'm not sure what type 2 is, so I'll have to check it out. Though it should probably be "likely type 2" if anything.
 
Quick question, how fast does one have to be to not get reflected on a mirror.

We see this feat from urek in the latest chapter released.

http://*********.com/Manga/Tower-of-God/S002---Chapter-305?id=424773#40

http://*********.com/Manga/Tower-of-God/S002---Chapter-305?id=424773#41


Full chapter if you want to see the whole thing --> http://*********.com/Manga/Tower-of-God/S002---Chapter-305?id=424773
 
@Rinkaku

While you do this, I'll profile Data Maschenny since the calc was accepted, can you accept Data Maschenny Base being High 7-A+ as I told on calc's blog? Which End was accepted? the Low End or High End?

To be honest about this lightning storm, I was expecting a 7-B+ or 7-A, but in the end it resulted in 6-C.
 
@Rinkaku

Do you think we should expect others to discuss the tiers of the main characters of the Hidden Floor Arc like Baam and Aguero? Since we need to organize tiers because of the new calc.
 
All For one has a 6-C version? I swear, each time I see him and All Might, they keep getting upgraded. Though it's fair enough, as literally no one else in their verse can touch them without using hax.

As for the tiers, I'd say the following

At least 6-C

Data Zahard, Horned Form Baam

6-C

Maschenny Zahard

Likely 6-C

Koon Aguero, Rak Wraithraiser, Androssi Zahard

The last set of tiers are the only ones I'm uncertain about. I'd honestly rather have them as either an Unknow tier, or an at least whatever their current tier is. There's no real way to scale them to anyone else with what they've shown. The only one this is debatable for is Androssi, but even she has fallen behind, seeing as how she was defeated by Kaiser, even if it was through limited durability negating hax. She can't be scaled to Baam anymore since he has grown enormously stronger since them, vastly outclassing her by the floor of death arc.
 
@Teon

All For One 6-C + version (which scales to 78 Gigatons) is its prime version and while its weakened version is High 7-A, while Data Maschenny Redan scales to 8.6 Gigatons, though she has huge speed advantage (especially while she uses Redan) to reward the big AP difference and Durability.

I think Rak and Aguero are both Post Training being 7-A + because they can fight together against the sworm enemy of Baam, and while Androssi (Post Training) must be At least 7-A + being stronger than Aguero and Rak individually and weaker than Data Maschenny Base
 
Issue is, we don't have any way of quantifying how strong data Baam is. We can't just place an approximate tier on a character. There has to be a calc supporting it. And these characters don't have any real scaling to Baam, Data Zahard, or Data Maschenny, so it's more or less impossible to determine their tier. An at least, their current tier likely far higher should suffice for them.

Ah, but it sounds like an AP stomp. How fast she is will be largely irrelevant when she can't hurt him at all. Speed would have to equalized regardless, as the speed gap is way too large. And both of them should be able to amp their speed.
 
@Teon

Well, about the AP I remember that during the chapter of the battle against the sworn enemies, the enemy sworn of Baam that forced Baam (During the Training) to deviate from an attack, thus justifying 7-A + for Aguero and Rak since both together they were able to fight the enemy sworn of Baam, and Androssi (Post Training) is superior to these two individually and Baam Pre Training probably should be At least 7-A + or Likely High 7-A.

The chapter about this:

https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-2-ep-296/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=377


On All For One vs. Data Maschenny Redan, All For One despite having the advantage of AP and Durability, he still has hax to steal some of Maschenny's abilities if he knocks and wait a few seconds, but Base Maschenny's Data is escalated to be higher than Ran that the speed is of 836 Mach or Massively Hypersonic and when it is improved by the Redan its speed is said to increase by "the couple of times" and the minimum for several times or sometimes is of 3X, that is to say Data Maschenny Redan is Massively Hypersonic + for being at least 3X faster than its Base form that is faster than Ran that is Mach 836, while All For One is scaled to 40 Mach or High Hypersonic, I still think it's a fair fight, even with the disadvantages and advantages of both, in fact Maschenny has two speed boosts: the Shinsoo and the Redan.
 
That AP/Durability advantage is well over 5x, and can't be bridged by anything that Maschenny can do. Her AP gain isn't that large without the redan with the exception of one or two attacks.

But we don't know how much strength Baam was using at that time. Especially since his sworn enemy is noticeably weaker than him as he can't use the thorn, only has a single soul, and doesn't have the red thyrssa. Scaling them to any characters we have calcs for at this point is rather difficult, and would be held together by a very lose, easily ruined thread. It's simply not feasible to scale them to any tier in between where they currently are and 6-C, without guesswork, which isn't accurate at all.
 
But a character can easily hurt another even with a difference of 3X in AP and Durability, ie Data Maschenny Redan can hurt gradually Prime All For One, it will be a bit difficult for Maschenny, but it's not impossible. Even if Redan does not last very long, Data Maschenny Base is still much faster than Prime All For One speed.

In fact the enemy sworn of Baam, was said by Baam himself to be as strong as he (though that was before training), but with good thoughtsl I think likely far higher for Androssi, Aguero and Rak should be the most we can do.

And here's the Baam chapter talking about it:

https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-2-ep-267/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=348
 
Not only was it before training, but it was also before we knew that the sworn enemy was unable to use the thorn. He can't be as strong as Baam if he can't use the thorn. Even before training, Baam with the thorn likely would have disposed of him with only moderate difficulty.

Yeah, I agree with their current tier, likely far higher.

Meh. The difference between high hypersonic, and massively hypersonic is too large to not equalize speed. And this is not a mere 3x AP difference. That would be fine. This is a difference of about 8X. That's too large to be bridged without some kind of hax, the likes of which, Maschenny lacks here. Not to mention that All for One has his own hax.
 
I had forgotten that Baam was not using the thorn at that time, so I think it is now certain that the enemy sworn of Baam is weaker than Baam himself, although sworn enemies are more useful for training his target mentality, as was the case with Baam and how likely it will be with Androssi.

So it can be Weakened All For One vs. Maschenny Data Form Base? or Prime All Might vs Maschenny Data Form Redan? If these options are not good then can you suggest me a Versus Thread involving Maschenny's High 7-A or 6-C?
 
As far as resistance to electricity goes for the Koon (Khun) family goes, I'd rather wait to see if they can actually harm each other with their electricity. I think a 'likely' would be more appropriate for their resistance. As those of the Yeon family don't necessarily have resistance to flame as they should be capable of harming other members of their family with their flame.
 
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