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...and Resurrection is limited too. How does this affect Rick? As far as I'm concerned that is one of the best resurrections on the thread and maybe even the wiki. How limited is it ?
He can still die, it will just cause another Rick to be spawned with the Phoenix Project
Those kind of come with the package... also, technology disabling from Player, remember? It isn't even OOC for Player to try to do this right off the bat, since most tech and gadgets in PG3D kills them in two shots or less within seconds, they would bumrush Rick and Johnny with tons of statuses as soon as the battle begins
Trovian is an Extraordinary Genius and Player is a Genius in combat. They aren't just going to mindlessly keep killing Rick and see that more Ricks are coming and not suspect duplication, when especially the Trovian has fought enemies with similar reincarnative abilities (Vengeful Pinata God, Shadow Titans, Undertow in general). If killing him does not work the first time they're moving to different strats, like the plethora of things they can use to incap
That's only really a wincon against Trovian, and even so they can just reincarnate after death and go back to where they were with teleportation, Origin Portal Potion, etc. With their Flasks fully regenerated and the process to permanently kill the Trovian taking longer than before thanks to the Death-Defying Vial
That's just Player's first move when turning people into sheep since that's how the item specifies the way he uses it. He will just keep Rick as a sheep after noticing that killing him does not work
Rick's first move is BFR, there are PG3D gadgets that BFR that get negated. Arguing which technology of which verse is more sophisticated is quite literally inarguable so I won't bother. I'd assume the technology level would also get equalized considering everything else isWell if you can explain how the technology in this verse is more advanced than the technology Rick develops then sure I would agree that the Player can block Rick’s tech from working. But given Rick is far more intelligent I don’t see that happening.
Several PG3D weapons are capable of hacking things and there are even enemies in the campaign that have gained control of the very same information-space that makes up the Player by that point and they can't hack the Player. He resists hacking based on that, he can also get killed with data-altering weapons that i've mentioned before and still be fine on the respawnRick could also just mess with The Player’s tech too via just straight up hacking it. I also see that the Player is data itself so I see Rick building something to assimilating the Player’s existence.
How is he killing himself as a sheep? In the backrooms, with no environmental hazards? Why would the other team just allow him to do that even if he could????Phoenix project remember? If he kills himself he will come back to life
Just because Rick is smart does not mean Rick's intelligence makes people stupid... They would know he duplicates and resurrects as soon as they kill him once, and only being generous would they go on the offensive again and try to kill him the same wayRick is a supergenius capable of outsmarting and embarrassing other supergeniuses. This Rick is even capable of outsmarting other versions of Ricks who are also supergeniuses so I don’t see him carelessly they will be able to suspect duplication or his resurrection before it’s too late cuz Rick will immediately go for one shot haxes.
What counters??? You just said "well he's smarter so technology disabling hax doesn't work and they won't suspect anything before he kills them with one-shot hax (doesn't mention the one-shot hax)"Incapacitating Rick would be nigh impossible considering the amount of counters I’ve mentioned to their haxes mentioned here
All the other Ricks can be killed once and they won't come back, this was specifiedthus far. Not to mention the sheer number of ricks to incap is also a problem.
There are enough ricks to accomplish the job no matter what it takes or how long it takes.
Alternatively they can just turn him into something else with the other transmutation weapons they have that work in different ways, with even less options to work with than a sheep; like a floating ERROR sign, a beetle or a weird jelly skin mutant. All transmutations disable the use of technology and weapons in PG3D, by the way, so that's even more tech null stacked on top of the regular one he's already inflictingRick wouldn’t be dumb enough to get turned into a sheep again. He will never make the same mistake twice and he will take extreme precautions to prevent that.
They don't need to, they can just play around it... like not killing Rick as soon as they learn of it. Which the Sun-Touched Shimmerwing would do as soon as Rick dies the first time.Even if Volex knew of the phoenix project somehow they have no way of dismantling it unless they are capable of pinpointing every station across the multiverse.
The mangled consciousness that was overloaded with petabytes of information and is insane as a result of Charm? Also show me where it's specified that it downloads his consciousnessThe PP also downloads ricks consciousness so I don’t see it specifically requiring his soul considering that was never mentioned.
?I don’t see them ******* with a tech from a super genius.
BFR does not work on Trovian, they've been shown to fight out of the underworld and back into the world of the living after dying + the Origin Portal Potion can just make them come back from this. For PG3D player it's debatable but with the Denied! gadget they can just "kill" themselves and teleport back to the fight's original point in an instantIn truth, Rick would immediately BFR them at the start of the fight given their first moves are to start shooting at him. Of course Rick is capable of defending against that but he will always go for the most convenient option with is just straight up removing them from the battlefield.
Trovian can come back from simultaneous deconstruction and EE immediately, Player can Denied! and come back. Also, precognition would tell them to get away as soon as it spawns into existenceRick’s BFR works via many ways like spawning a portal that deconstructs them and removes them or a portal that takes them into another dimension where a day is like years in that dimension
Thing is, they would not be going anywhere and if they did they'd be back in less than a minute. These point is moot, he would need to do something that would work in the moment. Death crystals look like they take time so he wouldn't be able to precog themIf they can somehow come back from BFR or resist BFR then we can talk about how Volex Brawlers will retaliate but by then Rick would’ve probably anticipated their return and prepared adequately for it. With preparation Rick would just do anything from straight up outsmarting them after knowing all the ways they could kill him via the death crystal to time manipulation to death manipulation (touching Rick induces death, he also has weapons that straight up kill things) to deconstruction to transmutation to… the list goes on and all the Ricks can do it.
No work for reasons aboveBefore the 1st death Rick would go for a brutal BFR which disintegrates the opponents in the process.
How much of this is negated by being made into an ordinary mindless beetle or having his tech nullifiedAfter the 1st death will be straight up bombardment of every hax on hand. Including cloning or calling other ricks.
They're not killing him a third time, they're going for incap. They'll know he's coming back and prep accordinglyAfter 2nd death Rick will absolutely go into preparation and straight up body his opponents with his highest arsenals of hax.
Forcefields wouldn't even work anyways because Trovian and Player both have methods of negating such things, the former's case being through the sheer AP difference and the latter being through the Piercer gunOf course, I don’t see Rick dying more than once assuming his forcefields, intelligence advantage and bfrs don’t work.
Imo it's pretty standard for a vs Tournament to take a good while.Tournament is pretty slow anyways already, considering ending it because of it (and other poor choices on my end)
Rick's first move is BFR, there are PG3D gadgets that BFR that get negated. Arguing which technology of which verse is more sophisticated is quite literally inarguable so I won't bother. I'd assume the technology level would also get equalized considering everything else is
Several PG3D weapons are capable of hacking things and there are even enemies in the campaign that have gained control of the very same information-space that makes up the Player by that point and they can't hack the Player. He resists hacking based on that, he can also get killed with data-altering weapons that i've mentioned before and still be fine on the respawn
Rick could just make an instant kill device before hand. Keep in mind this scenario only happens if Rick fails at working around it which is very unlikely given the intelligence gap, but Rick would’ve already prepared for the worst case.How is he killing himself as a sheep? In the backrooms, with no environmental hazards? Why would the other team just allow him to do that even if he could????
Just because Rick is smart does not mean Rick's intelligence makes people stupid... They would know he duplicates and resurrects as soon as they kill him once, and only being generous would they go on the offensive again and try to kill him the same way
Also, what one shot haxes in particular