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Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier 8: New Forum, same rules

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NEP2 needs to be activated first for Anos. So passives get in the way of that as was already explained in earlier posts. Yes these posts also accounted for his immortalities and ability to cast magic from his source.

When a character can only force an incon, but can't do anything otherwise, they are generally ranked as weaker in these lists. Take into account that Destiny beats more characters and it becomes quite clear that they're more formidable than Graham. Graham's offensive abilities simply don't compare to his defensive ones. You don't become the strongest by just being hard to kill.
 
WHYNAUT said:
When a character can only force an incon, but can't do anything otherwise, they are generally ranked as weaker in these lists.
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This. We long since agreed that if the only reason a character can exist on this list is via being hard to touch them then they should be removed.
 
WHYNAUT said:
NEP2 needs to be activated first for Anos. So passives get in the way of that as was already explained in earlier posts. Yes these posts also accounted for his immortalities and ability to cast magic from his source.
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It is nothing that has to be activated or anything like that, since it was something imposed by many not wanting to accept that Anos is NEP2 full in battle or due to a misunderstanding that was generated here, since every time he enters into combat he always uses Graham's nothingness as a general "shield", which converts anything it interacts with into nothingness, to protect himself or to attack. and yes, he uses it in every battle, some might say that Anos can't be full NEP2 because other characters can interact with him, the answer is simple, in battle he is full NEP2 while not in normal.
 
Planck69 said:
This. We long since agreed that if the only reason a character can exist on this list is via being hard to touch them then they should be removed.
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Tokyo Babel... Practically all the contenders can make them pure if they did not have Acausality 5.
 
Planck69 said:
Fine. They can be removed. Your point?
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My point is not my point, as I am not the only one who has complained throughout this thread, as they are very weak in general, they only have Acausality 5.
 
As an example, any character below Anos in Low 2-C or 2-B could beat Anos if we remove the NEP2? No right? then it doesn't matter, but Tokyo Babel if we remove the Acausality 5 will be easily defeated by the likes as Rimuru, Shulk and below them.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Graham only incons Crota due to NEP 2, Crota's offense and defense is comparably amazing otherwise, Tokyo Babel is only tehre due to Acasuality 5, which it should be removed due to. Do ya get what I'm feeling?
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Sad SCP-682 noises
 
And one more thing, graham's offensive skills are on par with Anos, as he was able to affect and harm Anos and keep up with Venuzdonoa attacks
 
It should probably just be Characters from Ergenverse anyway. I'll edit it in later.
 
Dereck03 said:
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So he still has to activate it. Activating an ability at the start of a fight =/= not having to activate it first. Unless an ability is passive, they won't be active immediately at the start of the match. I never said Anos doesn't use his NEP2 early on, I said he won't get the chance to activate it.

Don't get me wrong, Graham's offensive abilities are impressive. They're just not as impressive as his defensive ones and certainly don't stack up to those of Destiny characters.
 
Meng Chuan for a spot in Low 7C. He resists time hax, has high regneration, has another self in another dimension where he can be reborn, has ice manipulation that even freeze particles and light, has 2 bodies
 
Liu Mei for 1st 4-B, since I just recently saw that her hax potency scale to entire cultivation planets, which means she affects every living thing on a planet several times the surface area of the Sun, down to even grass and insects. That should put her above Sidious.
 
Planck69 said:
Liu Mei for 1st 4-B, since I just recently saw that her hax potency scale to entire cultivation planets, which means she affects every living thing on a planet several times the surface area of the Sun, down to even grass and insects. That should put her above Sidious.
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Shouldn't gon be above sidous as well she has her busted Absorption
 
I suppose. Anyone have an issue with it just being "Characters from Ergenverse"? Since there's also Yao Bingyun and her Immeasurable speed amp, Heavenspan with his life absorption on a similar scale etc.
 
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