Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier 8: New Forum, same rules

[WHYNAUT]

NEP2 needs to be activated first for Anos. So passives get in the way of that as was already explained in earlier posts. Yes these posts also accounted for his immortalities and ability to cast magic from his source.

When a character can only force an incon, but can't do anything otherwise, they are generally ranked as weaker in these lists. Take into account that Destiny beats more characters and it becomes quite clear that they're more formidable than Graham. Graham's offensive abilities simply don't compare to his defensive ones. You don't become the strongest by just being hard to kill.

 

[DaReaperMan]

You don't become the strongest by just being hard to kill.

SCP-682 is very offended by that statement

 

[Planck69]

When a character can only force an incon, but can't do anything otherwise, they are generally ranked as weaker in these lists.

This. We long since agreed that if the only reason a character can exist on this list is via being hard to touch them then they should be removed.

 

[Dereck03]

NEP2 needs to be activated first for Anos. So passives get in the way of that as was already explained in earlier posts. Yes these posts also accounted for his immortalities and ability to cast magic from his source.

It is nothing that has to be activated or anything like that, since it was something imposed by many not wanting to accept that Anos is NEP2 full in battle or due to a misunderstanding that was generated here, since every time he enters into combat he always uses Graham's nothingness as a general "shield", which converts anything it interacts with into nothingness, to protect himself or to attack. and yes, he uses it in every battle, some might say that Anos can't be full NEP2 because other characters can interact with him, the answer is simple, in battle he is full NEP2 while not in normal.

 

[Dereck03]

This. We long since agreed that if the only reason a character can exist on this list is via being hard to touch them then they should be removed.

Tokyo Babel... Practically all the contenders can make them pure if they did not have Acausality 5.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Tokyo Babel

Shouldn't be there. two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[Dereck03]

Shouldn't be there. two wrongs don't make a right.

I don't understand anything

 

[Planck69]

Tokyo Babel... Practically all the contenders can make them pure if they did not have Acausality 5.

Fine. They can be removed. Your point?

 

[Dereck03]

Fine. They can be removed. Your point?

My point is not my point, as I am not the only one who has complained throughout this thread, as they are very weak in general, they only have Acausality 5.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I don't understand anything

Graham only incons Crota due to NEP 2, Crota's offense and defense is comparably amazing otherwise, Tokyo Babel is only tehre due to Acasuality 5, which it should be removed due to. Do ya get what I'm feeling?

 

[Dereck03]

As an example, any character below Anos in Low 2-C or 2-B could beat Anos if we remove the NEP2? No right? then it doesn't matter, but Tokyo Babel if we remove the Acausality 5 will be easily defeated by the likes as Rimuru, Shulk and below them.

 

[Dereck03]

Graham only incons Crota due to NEP 2, Crota's offense and defense is comparably amazing otherwise, Tokyo Babel is only tehre due to Acasuality 5, which it should be removed due to. Do ya get what I'm feeling?

Sad SCP-682 noises

 

[DaReaperMan]

Sad SCP-682 noises

682 actually has some decent offensive hax lol

 

[Dereck03]

And one more thing, graham's offensive skills are on par with Anos, as he was able to affect and harm Anos and keep up with Venuzdonoa attacks

 

[Delta333]

lol why Anos and Graham are still magically above Crota

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Omnipotent Third Person for 1st Low 7B

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Meng Hao for a spot in 5A

 

[Planck69]

It should probably just be Characters from Ergenverse anyway. I'll edit it in later.

 

[Delta333]

It should probably just be Characters from Ergenverse anyway. I'll edit it in later.

put Crota above Anos and Graham too

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Orcus for a spot in 2A. He doesn`t have 1A hax only the gods have it

 

[WHYNAUT]

Snip

So he still has to activate it. Activating an ability at the start of a fight =/= not having to activate it first. Unless an ability is passive, they won't be active immediately at the start of the match. I never said Anos doesn't use his NEP2 early on, I said he won't get the chance to activate it.

Don't get me wrong, Graham's offensive abilities are impressive. They're just not as impressive as his defensive ones and certainly don't stack up to those of Destiny characters.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Life for 2nd High 6B, she is beating cronus

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

what makes naraku first 1 Low 7B. His hax got nerfed he only has low-godly regen now and the rest of his hax isn`t impressive

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Omnipotent Third Person for 1st Low 7B. Type 1 abstract existance,reality warping,causality hax and lots of resistances

Knifeman for a spot in 9C

 

[DaReaperMan]

Knifeman for a spot in 9C

Gwenpool throws Plot Manip GG

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Gwenpool throws Plot Manip GG

she can be 2nd 9C ,knifieman can be 3rd

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Void Knight for 1st High 8C. NEP 2,lots of resistances,void hax

 

[DaReaperMan]

she can be 2nd 9C ,knifieman can be 3rd

Wait is Gwenpool a smurf? Why isn't she on the list?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Wait is Gwenpool a smurf? Why isn't she on the list?

she isn`t a smurf

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

nasuverse characters for 1st Low 1C

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Orcus for a spot in 2C and 2A

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

nasuverse characters for 1st Low 1C

 

[Lou_change]

Boo big boo key for High 8-C 5th because Nova (Richard Rider) can't touch them and just being decently haxed especially if we allow power stars.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Void Knight for 1st High 8C

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Meng Chuan for a spot in Low 7C. He resists time hax, has high regneration, has another self in another dimension where he can be reborn, has ice manipulation that even freeze particles and light, has 2 bodies

 

[Planck69]

Liu Mei for 1st 4-B, since I just recently saw that her hax potency scale to entire cultivation planets, which means she affects every living thing on a planet several times the surface area of the Sun, down to even grass and insects. That should put her above Sidious.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Liu Mei for 1st 4-B, since I just recently saw that her hax potency scale to entire cultivation planets, which means she affects every living thing on a planet several times the surface area of the Sun, down to even grass and insects. That should put her above Sidious.

Shouldn't gon be above sidous as well she has her busted Absorption

 

[Planck69]

I suppose. Anyone have an issue with it just being "Characters from Ergenverse"? Since there's also Yao Bingyun and her Immeasurable speed amp, Heavenspan with his life absorption on a similar scale etc.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Meng Chuan for a spot in Low 7C. He resists time hax, has high regneration, has another self in another dimension where he can be reborn, has ice manipulation that even freeze particles and light, has 2 bodies

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Life for 2nd High 6B, she is beating cronus