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It's still an handicap.
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Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier 8: New Forum, same rules
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It's a handicap for characters with a speed advantage, but there's always someone faster than you in your tier unless you're like Immeasurable/Infinite (Even then, a lot of immeasurables/infinites have speed scaling chains). So, it doesn't always work against you.
It's not about being unfair; it's about having an actual fight.
I don't even know why this is a discussion, seeing as we also list people who are rated higher with speed unequal.
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That has already been discussed, have an issue make yer own damn thread.
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Good escape goat BTW
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It's not an escape goat. This was already discussed some pages ago, so it would be better not to bring the argument again.
This is a thread made for fun, it's not a Top 5 of the characters that have Immeasurable speed in every Tier. And if a character can't beat another character without a huge speed advantage than he doesnt deserve to be in the list in the first place anyways.
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Because one is about being faster, and the other is about ability interaction.
And, as I already said, this thread takes into account speed as well, so this entire argument is moot.
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If you have someone you think makes the list with unequal speed, then mention them, and they'll get added.
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I don't have a problem big they Share it so it doesn't become a bigger issue.
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Death hax is countered by T8 and T9 Immortality (It doesn't seem to work on humans anyway), and absorbing her leads to getting mind and soul haxxed
This is assuming the passive works on things kilometers away too
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We do accept it as working on humans and 4km, and either way it just gets ee'd by robo, also even if she doesn't get affected, she gets blasted by any of the tier 5s, and Temple of the Sun God, True and Vengeful negs her heart given, you know, the fact that it has holy manip + it is literally a temple to a god/ in latter forms is literally the god itself
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How will she get blasted when she has immortal type 8 and 9?
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Type 9 can still be used to save her,his profile doesn't have immortal neg type 8 plus power null will neg holy manip
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Jean should be higher she has High level Telepathy and other hax.
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Anything energy-based
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Note: To harm the heart of a Devil, attacks from Arcane Stage and Saint Stage mages are required. In the case of cross-verse matchups, one must fit the criteria of either of them, which are the following:
- Arcane Stage: Arcane Stage encompass mages who have deeply tapped into Forbidden Magic, and mages with the ability to interfere with the otherworld. For the former, characters that are able to borrow the power of what would qualify as a Devil in their respective verse (Unholy Manipulation) should be able to arm the heart of a Devil. As for the latter, not much is known as of now.
- Saint Stage: Saint Stage is a stage only Spirit users can achieve, they can destroy the heart of a Devil by cleaning/purifying evil. As such, characters with the ability Holy Manipulation or Purification should be able to bypass the Invulnerability of a Devil's heart.
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His holy manip won't neg her type 8 unless it works by purifying evil, he has Holy Manipulation only because his attacks are celestial
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There are several types of Holy Manipulation, one of them being Exorcism (aka purifying evil).
If his Holy Manipulation can purify evil, it should bypass, the invulnerability, otherwise it doesn't
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Epsilon_R
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Calyrex has passive Absolute Zero and passive soul hax
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1) that is only in ghost rider in which case he gets outraged harder cause it only extends to the nearby are, (going off the attack animation no where near 4KM) with baam scaling to 6-B+ with 2 amps behind that,
2)As decided on the thread where he inconed megicula he has to extend his az so that it goes to 30KM, and any person with logic would see the AZ freezing would try to gtfo dodge and attack from range, which baam can
2)As decided on the thread where he inconed megicula he has to extend his az so that it goes to 30KM, and any person with logic would see the AZ freezing would try to gtfo dodge and attack from range, which baam can
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It's 50* kilometers while they would start 4km away, dodging that across 46km seems unlikely. Not to mention Calyrex can TK or mind hax from that far.
Also what can baam use to attack someone 50km away?
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TK is only bypassed when there's a significant difference in LS
And his resistance is nowhere near enough to resist Calyrex's mind hax, which works on thousand of people
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Mindhax no longer is measured in numbers.
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Isn't that only passive or one at a time mind hax that are affected by that change.
Lou_change
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Also Purple Stick Figure (Animator vs. Animation) for 9-A
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I see paris, I see France, I see cross scaling.
Lou_change
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Listen your right but he literally ate the game data for the champions it seems reasonable he copied their powers as he literally did so with at least some.
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He needs to have the powers he has shone listed then.
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ah yes so moving a forest vs moving a mountain filled with water isn't that big of a diffrence
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We talk with results, not with looks
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Calyrex scales above Machamp in his TK who moves mountains with 1 arm
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The Terrarian (end game) for a spot in high 5-A (speed equal)
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