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Oh wow their all non-smurf lol
thats actually surprising lol
one day i will get saint seiya out of the 3-A tier and into the accurate tier they belong in
thats actually surprising lol
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Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier 3
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Did you see my recommendation at allllllll?
Did you see my recommendation at allllllll?
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Chowder for 4th in High 8-C
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Which one?LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
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Toda Mikuki for 9-B and High 3-A.
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She isn't High 3-A, and you have to put her against Slenderman (101 Amazing Slenderman Facts) for a spot on 9-B.
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She's High 3-A with the Power is Infinite Concept, and Witch already agrees she more or less completely ***** Mu Dan over.
Granted, would be nice if some more votes went in there, but she's the most knowledgeable person for him far as I know.
Granted, would be nice if some more votes went in there, but she's the most knowledgeable person for him far as I know.
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Exactly, she's only High 3-A with a technique, which isn't enough. Her actual stats need to be High 3-A, not just her technique.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
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Um... her stats are High 3-A because of the technique in question.
I, am not sure at all what is your point.
I, am not sure at all what is your point.
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So both her stats have to be in the tier?
That's a really nonsensical limitation.
That's a really nonsensical limitation.
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I have no clue how did you even come to the conclusion it needs prep.
By this logic we wouldn't use a transformation of a character if it's a different tier since they need to transform into it.
By this logic we wouldn't use a transformation of a character if it's a different tier since they need to transform into it.
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Apologies then.
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He's got passive death hax. Honjou Masayuki doesn't seem all that impressive though.
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Passive death hax doesnt really mean much against someone with abstract existence
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Masayuki has 4 passivesOgbunabali said:
Luck, Probability Manipulation, Empathic and Social Influencing
It's Emphatic Manip is on a country level scale and he passively increases his own luck and at the same time lower others luck and he can null stuff's through dumb luck. You can argue that his luck is 4-D though but I'm not sure due to affecting an Ultimate skill
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Yeah I think he's a smurf and should be removed from the list
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This is based on the stats of the character itself, not their techniques. This why Characters from JoJo are on 10-A instead of 8-C, only their Stand is 8-C, not themselves.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
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If a technique gives you said stats, then what's the actual difference?
Like serious question, because this feels extremely arbitratry.
Like serious question, because this feels extremely arbitratry.
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That's just wrong, Baba's in 3-A despite that being from an ability which doesn't scale to physical stats.
If that's the case, then Baba is out of 3-A.
If that's the case, then Baba is out of 3-A.
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You could actually try and explain the reason behind this non existent rule nobody agreed with.
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It's a rule the original thread has, so I'm just following it.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
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... Wheeeere is this rule mentioned?
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There was a rule that you had to physically be in a tier to get on the list, but it was removed at some point
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Literally when was it removed? Because Hoopa claims his 6-B spot back if it was.
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The weird thing with Hoopa is it getting a spot for the weakest thing it can summon, because it can summon a stronger thing. It feels like saying "This 8-B, possibly 5-C stomps the tier because it has 5-C attacks", that doesn't really make sense because the 8-B tier inherently assumes an 8-B limit to that characteristic. I think we could come up with a rule to disqualify stuff like that which isn't just "tiers have to scale to physicals".
Something like "If an ability has a maximum potential and a minimum potential, when contending for the tier of its minimum potential, that ability in particular should be assumed to be at its minimum potential." Something like that.
But if this rule has worse side-effects I might be fine with just having Hoopa in Low 6-B anyway.
Something like "If an ability has a maximum potential and a minimum potential, when contending for the tier of its minimum potential, that ability in particular should be assumed to be at its minimum potential." Something like that.
But if this rule has worse side-effects I might be fine with just having Hoopa in Low 6-B anyway.
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I actually like that rule. Otherwise it just feels like changing Higher D for Higher Stats in everything tier 2 and below.
But yeah, I see no point for the rule. If the character can effectively get his stats there, no matter how, and it isn't something they can only do with one attack, they should count. The source doesn't change the fact that Toda can hit at High 3-A like anyone else in the tier.
But yeah, I see no point for the rule. If the character can effectively get his stats there, no matter how, and it isn't something they can only do with one attack, they should count. The source doesn't change the fact that Toda can hit at High 3-A like anyone else in the tier.
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ssoooo uuuhhh... is no one going to chose any low 1-c characters...? because if not...
I nominate Chronos (Saint Seiya) ƒæÇjust waint until im done revising this bad boy.. though that may take a full year or so at this revision rate...
I nominate Chronos (Saint Seiya) ƒæÇ
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5-C should just be characters from Ergenverse
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Then we might as well deal with Hoopa on 6-B, Novel Kars on 8-C, Giorno on 8-C (he'll likely lose tho) and Methuselah on 3-B in that case.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
