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heh, no, UKG scales big time above Madoka and Homura, with even her projected growth being above them, with her actual growth being even greater than that
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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 36
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Madoka is in an endless draw against UGK tho
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Because RE mainly
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On Madoka's profile
Multiverse level+ (Destroyed the concept of witches in every universe before ascending to a higher level of existence to become a conceptual entity. Her multiverse was later confirmed to contain infinite universes in Puella Magi Homura Tamura. The Law of Cycles encompasses the infinite multiverse as well as the nonexistent multiverse beyond it. Has shown to be on par with Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen)
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Most scaling chains that I have seen by supporters put UKG above Madoka though
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They're probably talking about hax scaling, because on the profiles is literally stated that UKG = Madoka, with scans as well.
Aka a CRT is needed if they want to change that.
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Still, that should be kept for a crt.
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Issue here is that they're equal in lore, and this list puts characters who are equal in lore in the same spot.
Anyway that is for a CRT
Anyway that is for a CRT
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Do you have the thread of the revision? Want to see it
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https://vsbattles.com/threads/addin...multiverses-is-not-entirely-worthless.118895/
Here's the thread that changed it and here's the relevant section of the tiering FAQ that explains it.
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Thanks to those questionable 2-A revisions, shouldn't Lavos be in the running for 2-A?
Unlike Transformers his NEP 2 is legit iirc and is capable of eating others with NEP 2 (plus the usual stuff associated with a haxxed tier 2: CM 2, potent acausality, High-godly, etc).
Unlike Transformers his NEP 2 is legit iirc and is capable of eating others with NEP 2 (plus the usual stuff associated with a haxxed tier 2: CM 2, potent acausality, High-godly, etc).
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UKG already defeated Lavos.
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I mean, what exactly stops Arceus from sealing?
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he cant touch nep2
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Lavos isn't NEP 2. I've legimately Ctrl + F and there's not.
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because the page is dumb and it is listed as incorporeality
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...then make a CRT
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It is already accepted to be that way for all intents and purposes, dreams in chrono trigger are already accepted to be type 2 concepts, and very much predates the version of nep with its intangibility and concept stuff, it just wasn't updated
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Wait, so it just had to be changed? Then you can apply it ig
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Really? it was that simple
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I mean, profile is open lol
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Tom Taylor for 4th 10B. The others have passives or have hax faster than john. He should tie with molecule man speed unequalized
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Well, NEP2 for The One is gone now. Just wanted to point that out.
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John or Tom?
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So now Lavos should replace Pokémon for the 5th place.
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Everyone and their mother knew The One's NEP2 was wrong, but we still used it since it was on the profile. If we want to use Lavos' NEP2, someone needs to make a CRT.
I can make it, if someone gives me the scan for it or smth.
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Also dude, you don't just change some ability on a profile just because some people told you so. NEP2 is quite a big deal, and I recall someone making a thread for it, and there were some arguments against NEP2 Lavos.
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It was already accepted on the CM 2 Thread, it just wasn't applied yet.
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What.
Where's the thread? Can you link it?Also I think that should have its own thread, but eh.
Where's the thread? Can you link it?
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In short, it was done when NEP wasn't still a thing on the site. But now it should qualify as such.
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The justification on the profile is absolutely horrid, btw. (Exists in Non-Existence), needs a bit more context.
From that thread, it seems he was sent into the darkness of time, a non-existent place beyond the multiverse?
From that thread, it seems he was sent into the darkness of time, a non-existent place beyond the multiverse?
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Yeah, but we should wait @deonment still, as he'd likely know better. Just to say that Lavos already had such power, only that wasn't upgraded yet.
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I mean, that thread states that even the darkness beyond time still was defined by dreams, which are concepts.
Still, I'll wait for Deon.
Still, I'll wait for Deon.
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Taking is only 5-D for Oryx' 2-A end. And the passive application of Taking is only at Oryx' own dimensional level, active Taking is the smurfy one. The reason Oryx is so 3rd is because he has a ton of other passives, and just hax in general, and because he's legit infinitely above baseline 2-A.
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