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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 36
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Yeah, just checked the profile of Bai and he doesn't have resistances to Oryx's Take, something that Meng Hao had. I'm gonna remove that part from the List of the changes, since I think Oryx passively Takes Bai. Maybe he can take the 3rd position, but I find it hard for him to take the 2nd.
For Oersted, he can probably take the 2nd spot, but I'm gonna wait for more informations.
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They have passive mind, fear and madness hax with depending on the abnormality having more mind hax, death and resistance bypassing mind and physical attacks
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David Jehoahaz Abraham can share the same spot at 3rd low 1-C with Sinbad since both have same 1-B hax (passive fate protection and hierarchy swapping,also can potentially amp to 1-B)
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Bai Xiaochun resists everything Meng does, both are third step cultivators. He resists being erased, hell his resistance is better since he - like Mortal Renegade - can resist 1-A EE at the cost of 8 clones of the one million he has. Likewise, Bai's Will means that trying to make him subservient would be a rather difficult task to pull off.
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Which resistances are 1-A exactly
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EE, law manipulation and death hax definitely are. His Will should also be, which comes with body puppetry and mind manipulation resistance, as he uses Will to comprehend Essence and his 1-A erasure.
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Uh, corruption is either mental or physical. Unless you mean to tell him Oryx warps biology and not minds/souls (in which case Bai being not a person but a realm onto himself ruins it), his mental resistance still applies. But cultivators do resist corruption, I simply didn't list out all subs of mind manip he resists (empathic, madness, willpower manip, mental corruption, etc.)
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In that case bai should also be put in the top spot. That may not allow him to resist everything that is included in Taking, but it would prevent him from becoming a subservient Taken. Idk if he resists all of Oryx' other hax, but I wouldn't be suprised if he did. I also don't really want to find out.
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You can probably make it a "Characters from Ergenverse".
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Odio has abstract existence + mindless avatars, pretty sure those passives won't work.
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Thier mental shit can work on metal constructs and sound waves (kinda), also being abstract doesnt give you a free pass on mental hax working on you, also the hax goes into effect from just looking at them, so they should work
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It kinda does? A concept is even more fundamental than a mind or a soul, trying to mind control "hate" wouldn't make sense unless their powers have been shown to work on that sort of level.
If the mind hax works on mindless beings, then it's probably more than just mind hax.
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Wait, so Bai and Meng are in the same verse? I had no idea. Than yes, they should definitely share the spot.
So, with all of the things that got added, here is the list of the changes that should be applied:
- Characters from Magi for 5th Low 6-B (Sinbad have 1-B Fate protection)
- Characters from Honkai Impact for 2nd 6-B (they have High 1-C haxes and resistences)
- Removing Sirin from 1st 6-A (she is not that Tier anymore)
- Bai for 1st place tied with Meng Hao for the 2-B Tier or replacing them with Characters from Ergenverse (both have 1-A haxes and resistence)
- Remove Oersted from 7-C (he is not that Tier anymore)
- A possible spot in the 8-B Tier for Oersted (probably 2nd)
- Altair takes the vacant spot in the 7-C after the removal of Oersted (she has plot Hax and 2-B immortality)
- Meng Chuan for 2nd Low 7-C (he resists the stuff from the other positions)
- Replace Sinbad in the Low 1-C position with Characters from Magi (Sinbad, David and I think Ugo too have the Hierarchy Swapping that can turn them into 1-B)
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It isnt mind control, it is more just showing you shit that drives you mad and insane
It is only with their actual attacks and not the passives since it is scaling off of employees who can use thier ego weapons to damage DRV and ego weapons are just manifestations of the abnormalities
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Done.
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Thank you!
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Driving "hate" insane also wouldn't make sense
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Btw Planck, can you remove Ainchase from all of his current spots? He was being revised to become 4A.
And while you do that, could you also add to the rule about speed equal that "spots via speed unequal are valid, but without defeating someone at speed equal both will share a spot"
And while you do that, could you also add to the rule about speed equal that "spots via speed unequal are valid, but without defeating someone at speed equal both will share a spot"
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I'll do this in a bit.
I'm not sure if I should just change the OP's rules like that.
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It's not a change, we have that rule since the start, it's just not there.
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Alright, done.
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I wanted to ask, what happens if a character needs a location to gain the spot? For exemple, now Han has immortality, but it only works if he is in Korea. Would that work like speed unequal, where you add, say "X Character/Han Jee-Han (In Korea)"?
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Meh, we don't bloodlust characters so i don't think we should give location advantage to anyone (btw, i would be mad if some random character had extra powers while fighting inside the Central Park).
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Eh, fine. He could realistically teleport himself and his enemies there, and even then he's pretty stacked.
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i mean The Dunwich Horror is first High 8C because of that his summoning only works in specific locations
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The rules clearly say that SBA is assumed tho so the fight needs to be happening in central park, if TDH is breaking the rules it should be removed unless no one has a problem with location buffs being allowed, but if we allow location buffs then i have no idea why things like bloodlust and optional equipment wouldn't be allowed as well.
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ergenverse characters for 5th 6A
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nah, they definitly don't make it. I'm pretty sure there should be many, many enemies that easily beat them to the place, but even Han Jee-Han and the rest of the 8-As in The Gamer deal with the rather easily by simply flying, throwing them into a pocket dimension, and waiting for them to run out of stamina/waiting for the sun to come out.
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Absolutely not
They belong on at best a non smurf list
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To get onto some of these lists is ridiculously hard.
Im pretty sure to even compete for a spot in 9-B you need like at least H1B or even higher hax lol.
Im pretty sure to even compete for a spot in 9-B you need like at least H1B or even higher hax lol.
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Most top ones can stop the bottom four, to be fair.
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