Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 20

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Chaos king for the third or two of 2-C

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

That would be if speed unequal it is a different outcome.
Even with speed = that won't mean anything due to him not being able to affect eru due to him being 4-D and nameless not having the range

Why are you assuming that Eru wont be affected?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Okay, Xehanort ended up stomping Baba, and because they finally have type 2 concept manip, they also stomp SS too, however, D still stomps everyone as no one resists enought his D aura.
How exactly would this change the 3-A list?

If Xenanort stomped Baba but still loses to D then Xeha goes to 4th place pushing everyone else (below him) to one spot down

TLDR; SS and DMC gets yeeted and Baba goes to 5th

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

That would be if speed unequal it is a different outcome.
Even with speed = that won't mean anything due to him not being able to affect eru due to him being 4-D and nameless not having the range

Why are you assuming that Eru wont be affected?

He doesn't have the range or higher dimensional manipulation to hit him

btw, eru needs to be swapped out for either the Chaos King or the Downstreamers due to both of them having tier 1 stuff

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

so to defeat Baba all one needs is law manipulation resistance??

 

[Bobsican]

You also need 3-A concept nuking, it seems, as otherwise you incon at best.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Concept type 2 or 3?

 

[Bobsican]

Type 2, respectivelly, good enought law manip to keep up can also work.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

i see..

Im not for sure if it matter, but Alone (Hades) his mid godly regen comes from a type 2 concept that is also a tier 2 structure.. not for sure if that helps at all.. however my understanding of concept manipulation is still fairly small..

 

[Bobsican]

Baba can just incap with multiple laws, the main problem with dealing with Baba is dealing with the law manip, if someone resists it and can nuke an universe in character, then chances are the one with those stomps Baba.

 

[XDragnoir]

Ainchase has 2A EE in his H6A key, is this enough to kill Baba?

 

[Bobsican]

It needs the range, ptency of hax isn't enought.

 

[Bobsican]

Anyways, apparenlty Baba doesn't qualify for being in 3-A for the same reason most Jojo characters are in 10-A instead of tier 8, so he should be removed from there.

Okay, now the 5th spot can be taken by either DMC or SS.

 

[XDragnoir]

His 2A EE uses the type 2 concepts of chaos and entropy, and erase past, present and future across infinite universes.

 

[Bobsican]

Then he can totally compete, do a match first, however, as usual.

 

[Ionliosite]

Anyways, apparenlty Baba doesn't qualify for being in 3-A for the same reason most Jojo characters are in 10-A instead of tier 8, so he should be removed from there.

I agree with Baba being removed from 3-A.

 

[Wokistan]

Jojo characters aren't in tier 8 just because they lose. They could be in tier 8 if they beat those characters.

 

[Ionliosite]

Jojo characters aren't in tier 8 just because they lose. They could be in tier 8 if they beat those characters.

There was a long discussion about this a couple of threads that said otherwise and yes they lose

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Just a question, but can 5-A Nasuverse characters resist passive time stop?

 

[ShivaShakti]

Just a question, but can 5-A Nasuverse characters resist passive time stop?

Aren't the 5-A's all 2-A now?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

SCP-3930 to tie for the 4th 8-C slot, as it seems they naturally stalemate Dr Gii

 

[Ogbunabali]

Just a question, but can 5-A Nasuverse characters resist passive time stop?

They don't have 5-As.

 

[Genericstickman]

N. Trance for 7-B due to 5-D hax ovo

 

[ZeedKZ]

Eternity for Low 1-A

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

How about Characters from Marvel Comics for now

 

[ZeedKZ]

And remove High 1-B Thanos since he is Low 1-A now

 

[Ionliosite]

Aren't the 5-A's all 2-A now?

The TYPES tho.

 

[ZeedKZ]

I think Characters from Marvel should be above Azrael, but i think someone will made a thread about this

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Chowder for High 8-C since D is now 8-C

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Can he get pass Hajime Hinata?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Chowder plot manips

 

[Ionliosite]

Isn't Chowder from a comedy show about food? Does he seriously use that hax in character?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

When he's bloddlusted

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Hajime's bullshit luck denies that and make Chowder not use plot manip early and perceiving Hajime will drive them to madness

 

[Ionliosite]

When he's bloddlusted

Ok, so he doesn't use it. Out of the list, then.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

He does. If you don't belong on his show, he EEs you. He even did that to someone who is in his show, but not supposed to appear in that episode.

 

[Ionliosite]

So if he does use it, why did you say only when he's bloodlusted? You're giving mixed messages, people.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

He does it, but he only often uses it offensively when bloodlusted

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

I don't think Chowder being bloodlusted will help against Hajime because of Hajime's luck. His luck made people change their decisions (A student with a chainsaw in one hand and gun on the other is planning to kill an unarmed Hajime. Due to Hajime's luck, the student decided to choose the chainsaw instead of the gun and charges into Hajime but the student got himself killed instead from Hajime).

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Yeah, Types don't resist time stop and American Gods passively time stop by existing in their abstract form, which Types also can't hit.