That seems like a bunch of assumptions made for a verse that doesn't delve deeply into it (atleast going by the scans in the profile), by that logic mario is a platonic BEAST because it briefly mentioned the republic of plato, and the void.
Which can't affect her Conceptual based immortality, can we just concede and say that they share spot because they literally can't kill each other.
Considering the thing this is mentioned in relation to is about space and how things change in position as you move through it (as in literally getting closer or farther to something else), I would argue otherwise, and once more, its supporting evidence
The immortality will not help when she becomes unable to do anything in the void or whatever fucky state is left behind after existence is nuked, because you need feats for that, feats Wei Huo does have
Supporting evidence isn't enough by his own, otherwise it wouldn't just be supporting evidence.
I guess an example of what I mean is whataboutism.
A.) Why would wei huo do that in a timely manner, or even do that to begin with
Today!??
Well he went from fighting a sub relativistic character and was around his level, then fought a tier 6A with FTL speeds and grew with his AD in a matter of seconds/minutes
I gave a general briefing, I will also add that the curse of the thorns (the passive pain manipulation) is actually more of an abstract pain
Ohhhhh, I assumed you were going for a speed unequal spot.
i was in fact going for a speed unequal spot, but i was also replying to him saying smth about speed equal
sword here refers to his sword skill if i am not wrong and i dont think that would necessarily apply to his physical stats as well
Kidou would fall victim to his passive first which would allow Eugard to casually do her in
I don't see the separation being made here. Given that, I would want to see evidence of him boosting speed against someone slower.
Resisted.
he hasnt fought anybody weaker than him on screen iirc
nope, normal pain resistance is not enough since i doubt her resistance is better than literal zombies who give no reaction on having their bodies, mind and soul erased
Well, then I don't think that argument works.
Her resistance prevents the pain from happening to start with, so it doesn't really matter how strong it is.
still has no answer to the hypersonic vs FTL speed gap though
Resistance to Curse or Pain Manip is not on the profile, so "resisting everything in the verse" with no evidence that those two are resisted is a meaningless statement
From what I saw, Asura should be above these in 5-B.
He is faster than most of them, has low godly regen, passive chaos, spatial, madness 3 hax, his soul is gonna be impossible for them to interact with besides Yang Kai depending which key Yang's placed as. He should be able to at most incap or outright kill through his madness also.
And in 2-C he can go here.
Yang has like 40 layers of passive, dude.
Yang Kai can't mess with his soul in this key, but the chaos and space hax is resisted, but not the madness hax, so he should take the spot
Don't want to try my fat dragon~?
Go ERP to other place, reaper.
He can take the place of Makino and the Elementors, they are high 5-A and tier 4, it is already accepted in the thread, I am simply making the justifications and I am delaying out of laziness
bump x3
i did explain how he wins against everybody else on the list
Which isn't a thing in speed equal. Don't care about speed unequal spots. Countless haxless characters could get the spot that way.still has no answer to the hypersonic vs FTL speed gap though
Way to ignore the entire argument I already gave you? Again, unless you can tell me how the curse causes pain without affecting, say, Kidou's mind it won't work. The mechanism of the whole thing runs into a resistance.
As it stands your argument is basically "sure, she resists water, but what if I mix purple dye in". It's not different from things she resists to a relevant extend.
so worst case I have to do part of the upcoming CRT of the verse a little early.
Going for the speed unequal spot?
He should still win against some in equal haven't looked all too much. And seeing that that spell says body and mind, does that include soul as well? And if it does, how does that interact with souls in Soul Eater?
It doesn't. So the Kishin's soul stays, but his body and mind are now Karma's. So Karma gets a Kishin level soul, I guess.
The soul and mind are connected. There’s also the potential Asura just takes over her body like he could with Crona.It doesn't. So the Kishin's soul stays, but his body and mind are now Karma's. So Karma gets a Kishin level soul, I guess.
She DOESNT resist pain manipulation in anyway, nor does she resist curse manipulation. If she does, add it on to her page. Soul Manipulation and LIMITED Mind manipulation resistance are NOT enough to deal with a passive curse that causes pain to the mind body and soul, instantly incapacitating his enemies.
In that case, until you make the CRT, Eugard will be taking her spot
bump x4
Asura nullifies, his Madness of Fear nullified Death's Madness of Order which turns all beings on the planet into mindless robots.
And body control is irrelevant because Karma will be absorbed just as Crona was absorbed when they took possession of Asura's body.
That's not nullifying and I forgot to remove it is all. You can see it's not on Death's page anymore either. They block out the soul wavelength with their own, they don't nullify it. Also Karma's isn't a soul wavelength.
So it's resistance rather than nullification.
And? Death SW has the hax of destroying the target’s mind and emotions, but Asura resists mind/emotion destruction.
No it's neither. Death never uses his SW, and blocking the SW out isn't resisting the effects, its blocking the SW out.
I will put him below Kido until the match reach a conclusion
So apparently Granblue Fantasy just got upgraded to 9-D, so they'll need to be bumped up from 4th to at least 3rd in 1-C.
True.
Asura resists the Madness of Order because their madness is at the same level, and this was specifically about the MoO, not the SW.
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The madness of order is the soul wavelength.
Not all of Death's use of Soul Wavelength is MoO, the proof of this is that we saw him using SW before and this scan's statement that he didn't use MoO.
he wins against kidou in speed unequal, the only arguement is in speed equal and even that is not valid because the resistances DT is talking about isnt on her profile
