Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Bunny have time stop and time rewind on death.

Is the time stop a starting move? Is there a time limit on it also? Cause it still doesn’t seem like Bunny has the capability to kill him within the Timestop. Unless she can just timestop and leave him completely immobile like that forever.

On the time rewind post death. Is it only rewinding her own time or time in general (so the opponent forgets what happened)
If it’s the former Kawashita freezes her with his cryogenic gas to incapacitate her and leaves it at that. Or just pins her down with his Lifting strength indefinitely. Maybe chokes her out till she passes out.

 

[Lynieryz]

That's not how KS works or has even been shown to work .
Aizen is also NOT activating KS before T can speak.

It was literally used that way against Hinamori and my first answer literally shows that KS is passive after the fusion.

Tataghatas 4-A scaling is
Tataghata > prime Okhwang + heavenly gods > Dante Okhwang ~ full power Mori Hui = Mori Jin WITHOUT jeabongchim.

Tathagata passively dies to the Reiatsu Crush then, RC passively exerts the user's strength onto the target.

Aizen scales to 4.603 Zettafoe.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Is the time stop a starting move? Is there a time limit on it also? Cause it still doesn’t seem like Bunny has the capability to kill him within the Timestop. Unless she can just timestop and leave him completely immobile like that forever.

Yes, her time stop is the starting move. And there is no limit to how long her time stop can last.

 

[DavidTPPM]

It was literally used that way against Hinamori and my first answer literally shows that KS is passive after the fusion.

That doesn't show anyone being paralyzed and stopped from speaking. It doesn't even make sense to say he can do so, because if Aizen could just pull some infinite tsukiyomi shit on everyone why would he literally never do so?

Tathagata passively dies to the Reiatsu Crush then, RC passively exerts the user's strength onto the target.

Aizens reiatsu is normally only few inches away from his body and even if he decided to snipe Tats with sheer RC from a distance (despite basically never doing it to anyone in the series) Tataghata just regens.

Aizen also won't snipe Tataghata with reiatsu before Tataghata can speak or put him under his fate hax. Mori literally speed blitzed and one shot Tataghata and got still put under his fate and casualty hax.

 

[Robo432343]

doesn't Mujin stomp white blood queen for 3-C

 

[DavidTPPM]

doesn't Mujin stomp white blood queen for 3-C

I think we had a long conversation where I said he wins but it was too over the place so we agreed for them to share the spot for now

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

doesn't Mujin stomp white blood queen for 3-C

Thought for a second you wrote muzan and almost had a stroke

 

[Lynieryz]

That doesn't show anyone being paralyzed and stopped from speaking. It doesn't even make sense to say he can do so, because if Aizen could just pull some infinite tsukiyomi shit on everyone why would he literally never do so?

Seriously? Hinamori is manipulated to the point where she walks up to Toshiro's blade and gets pierced without any reaction.

Aizens reiatsu is normally only few inches away from his body and even if he decided to snipe Tats with sheer RC from a distance (despite basically never doing it to anyone in the series) Tataghata just regens.

Aizen also won't snipe Tataghata with reiatsu before Tataghata can speak or put him under his fate hax. Mori literally speed blitzed and one shot Tataghata and got still put under his fate and casualty hax.

This is only for the EE, not his RC, and it is passive, he does not have to decide anything.

| Same as before, Universal to Interdimensional with Reiatsu (His Reiatsu should be comparable to Shutara's, who can shake the three realms of existence[133]) | Same as before, Several to Tens of Meters with Existence Erasure and Telekinesis (Has been shown erasing things slightly beyond Aizen's body, and Aizen's Reiatsu was shown lifting objects from several meters away[134]) |

Tathagata regen is not enough.

Likely Regeneration (High-Mid: Mujin Park could regenerate from having half of his body blown off[15])

High-Mid: The ability to regenerate from being blown/cut to pieces, brain included, or from a small piece of the user's body, such as a finger, or the heart.

The difference in AP and the fact that it is applied to his entire body makes Low-High necessary.

Low-High: The ability to regenerate from having no solid parts of the body remaining. This can range from a puddle or drop of blood to even a single cell. For robots and machines, this can also include regenerating from a liquid state.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Seriously? Hinamori is manipulated to the point where she walks up to Toshiro's blade and gets pierced without any reaction.

That's not being completely paralyzed and incapable of speaking. That's seeing and hearing things differently from reality, in other words basic illusions.
So yeah Aizen isn't stopping T from speaking lmfao…

This is only for the EE, not his RC, and it is passive, he does not have to decide anything.

No, his general reiatsu is naturally only few inches away from his body. He can extend its range like any regular attack but that's not in character and requires conscious effort.

Tathagata regen is not enough.

Aizens go-to form of damaging is a sword stab. It absolutely is enough to heal that.

The difference in AP and the fact that it is applied to his entire body makes Low-High necessary.

No it isn't. Tathagata is like 4x bigger than earth at its peak, so to hit his entire body all at once Aizens power would spread to such a degree it might genuinely not even affect him due to square cube law.

Aizens AP might be like 65x greater, but the surface area of Ts body is millions of times greater than the area of Aizens attacks, meaning energy per meter² is going to be abysmally low.
Worst case scenario T just cuts the Reiatsu with the BoT.

 

[Robo432343]

Aizen's Kyoka is not passive tho

 

[Lynieryz]

No, his general reiatsu is naturally only few inches away from his body. He can extend its range like any regular attack but that's not in character and requires conscious effort.

Stop being dishonest, his Reiatsu is accepted as universal in range, Tathagata turns into strawberry juice and won't get past Aizen.

Aizens go-to form of damaging is a sword stab. It absolutely is enough to heal that.

Aizens AP might be like 65x greater, but the surface area of Ts body is millions of times greater than the area of Aizens attacks, meaning energy per meter² is going to be abysmally low.
Worst case scenario T just cuts the Reiatsu with the BoT.

Irrelevant, universal range Reiatsu Crush.

Range: Standard Melee Range with Hakuda combat, Extended Melee Range with his Zanpakutō, Hundreds of Meters to Tens of Kilometers with various Kidō spells and ranged attacks (Many of his Kidō blasts have been shown as dwarfing entire city blocks,[129] and his Kidō should rival Kisuke's, who can clash with Aura Michibane's several Kilometer ocean[130]), Interdimensional with the Caja Negación (Creates an entire pocket reality to seal its victims[131]), Universal, possibly Universal+ to Interdimensional with the Hōgyoku (The Hōgyoku can affect the entire world through its ability to fulfill the desires of people[132]) | Same as before, Universal to Interdimensional with Reiatsu (His Reiatsu should be comparable to Shutara's, who can shake the three realms of existence[133]) | Same as before, Several to Tens of Meters with Existence Erasure and Telekinesis (Has been shown erasing things slightly beyond Aizen's body, and Aizen's Reiatsu was shown lifting objects from several meters away[134]) | Same as before, Tens of Kilometers with Fragor and Ultra Fragor (Creates craters of this size[135]) | Same as before, Thousands of Kilometers with Hadō #90 and other Kido (Black Coffin's Gravity Manipulation affected the entire canopy of the Seireitei[136])

Sosuke Aizen

Sōsuke Aizen (藍あい染ぜん 惣そう右す介け, Aizen Sōsuke?) is the former captain of the 5th Division in the Gotei 13. He later leaves Soul Society with his followers, Gin Ichimaru and Kaname Tōsen. His lieutenant was Momo Hinamori. He formerly served as the lieutenant of the 5th Division under Shinji Hirako...

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Yhwach and Aizen sniping from Galaxies away (Redux)

This is a general thread for all Bleach god tiers, so anyone who scales to Senjumaru's 4-A feat scales to this revision. We currently accept that even a casual Reiatsu from a god tier can affect 3 universes in their entirety. That's all fine and dandy, but we need to upgrade their ranges to...

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[Robo432343]

oh nvm
Tathagata's passive will stop working once he gets soul crushed

 

[ZeedKZ]

Kikaider for 12th 8-A as he stomps Mahito.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Stop being dishonest, his Reiatsu is accepted as universal in range,

You are the one being dishonest lmfao. Aizen can use his reiatsu to reach across a universal distance but it isn't passively erasing everything around him in the universe. You're basically trying to say Aizen is 3-A in a debate about 4-A characters …

Tathagata turns into strawberry juice and won't get past Aizen.

Tathagata doesn't even get affected because the energy per m² will be like 1/100000 of Aizens AP.

Irrelevant, universal range Reiatsu Crush.

Already addressed that

No, his general reiatsu is naturally only few inches away from his body. He can extend its range like any regular attack but that's not in character and requires conscious effort.

Aizen can extend his reiatsu on a universal range. But he doesn't passively have that range and doesn't one shot everything a universal distance around himself.
You clearly read Bleach and clearly know Aizen doesn't passively one shot everyone and everything across a universal distance. So stop lying.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Yes, her time stop is the starting move. And there is no limit to how long her time stop can last.

Then fair enough

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

You guys should make an Aizen vs Tathagata match instead of clogging up this thread

 

[Lynieryz]

You are the one being dishonest lmfao. Aizen can use his reiatsu to reach across a universal distance but it isn't passively erasing everything around him in the universe. You're basically trying to say Aizen is 3-A in a debate about 4-A characters …

Tathagata doesn't even get affected because the energy per m² will be like 1/100000 of Aizens AP.

Already addressed that

Aizen can extend his reiatsu on a universal range. But he doesn't passively have that range and doesn't one shot everything a universal distance around himself.
You clearly read Bleach and clearly know Aizen doesn't passively one shot everyone and everything across a universal distance. So stop lying.

Yhwach and Aizen sniping from Galaxies away (Redux)

This is a general thread for all Bleach god tiers, so anyone who scales to Senjumaru's 4-A feat scales to this revision. We currently accept that even a casual Reiatsu from a god tier can affect 3 universes in their entirety. That's all fine and dandy, but we need to upgrade their ranges to...

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It is literally accepted that Aizen's passive Reiatsu is universal. Is it so difficult to accept that your favorite character loses to the point where you stop arguing and start using lies about the other character?

 

[DavidTPPM]

Yhwach and Aizen sniping from Galaxies away (Redux)

This is a general thread for all Bleach god tiers, so anyone who scales to Senjumaru's 4-A feat scales to this revision. We currently accept that even a casual Reiatsu from a god tier can affect 3 universes in their entirety. That's all fine and dandy, but we need to upgrade their ranges to...

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It is literally accepted that Aizen's passive Reiatsu is universal.

No, it's accepted he can snipe things using his reiatsu on a universal scale. Like the thread you linked literally says "would be able to shake the 3 realms". Not "their passive Reiatsu destroys everything on a universal range".


If Aizens passive omnidirectional reiatsu hit everything with 4.6 Zettafoe on a universal scale he would be extremely high into 3-A, not 4-A. Like that straight up logically contradicts itself.

Is it so difficult to accept that your favorite character loses to the point where you stop arguing and start using lies about the other character?

Ah yes, my favorite character - the ugly bald man with 3 seconds of screen time who's profile I didn't touch a single time in a year of revising the verse and who's only 4-A because I personally went against the idea of him fully scaling to the higher level

 

[Yeolban]

Yhwach and Aizen sniping from Galaxies away (Redux)

This is a general thread for all Bleach god tiers, so anyone who scales to Senjumaru's 4-A feat scales to this revision. We currently accept that even a casual Reiatsu from a god tier can affect 3 universes in their entirety. That's all fine and dandy, but we need to upgrade their ranges to...

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It is literally accepted that Aizen's passive Reiatsu is universal. Is it so difficult to accept that your favorite character loses to the point where you stop arguing and start using lies about the other character?

He literally did not disagree with you. He only said in order to make it universal he has to consciously do it. Because if it's automatically universal, how did he not neg-diff every other character in the series just by being in the same universe as them then? And that would make Aizen 3-A, not 4-A.

Also, oh yes. David definitely loves the bald man with barely any screentime who forced the main character into a fate where him and everything around him suffers and turns miserable (what)

 

[Lynieryz]

No, it's accepted he can snipe things using his reiatsu on a universal scale. Like the thread you linked literally says "would be able to shake the 3 realms". Not "their passive Reiatsu destroys everything on a universe range".


If Aizens passive omnidirectional reiatsu hit everything with 4.6 Zettafoe on a universal scale he would be extremely high into 3-A, not 4-A. Like that straight up logically contradicts itself.

My god, just read the thread's op, it is literally accepted that the passive Reiatsu is universal in range, this literally comes from the fact that Senjumaru's passive Reiatsu affects the entire universe.

Yhwach and Aizen sniping from Galaxies away (Redux)

This is a general thread for all Bleach god tiers, so anyone who scales to Senjumaru's 4-A feat scales to this revision. We currently accept that even a casual Reiatsu from a god tier can affect 3 universes in their entirety. That's all fine and dandy, but we need to upgrade their ranges to...

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Above Heaven and Below Earth, 0 Alone Surpasses 13

Introduction The purpose of this post is to examine the true power of Squad 0 and quantify how potent said power truly is. Conclusion To conclude, I believe that because this feat is not an outlier by our standards, and that the literal interpretation is the superior interpretation, the feat...

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Ah yes, my favorite character - the ugly bald man with 3 seconds of screen time who's profile I didn't touch a single time in a year of revising the verse and who's only 4-A because I personally went against the idea of him fully scaling to the higher level

Favorite among the two being discussed, genius.

 

[DavidTPPM]

My god, just read the thread's op, it is literally accepted that the passive Reiatsu is universal in range, this literally comes from the fact that Senjumaru's passive Reiatsu affects the entire universe.

Yhwach and Aizen sniping from Galaxies away (Redux)

This is a general thread for all Bleach god tiers, so anyone who scales to Senjumaru's 4-A feat scales to this revision. We currently accept that even a casual Reiatsu from a god tier can affect 3 universes in their entirety. That's all fine and dandy, but we need to upgrade their ranges to...

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Above Heaven and Below Earth, 0 Alone Surpasses 13

Introduction The purpose of this post is to examine the true power of Squad 0 and quantify how potent said power truly is. Conclusion To conclude, I believe that because this feat is not an outlier by our standards, and that the literal interpretation is the superior interpretation, the feat...

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Those don't state that at all .
They say that
1. Aizens reiatsu CAN reach universal distances, not that it's passively that thick.
2. Aizens reiatsu can SHAKE THE REALMS not hit every single cubic centimeter of the universe with 4.6 Zettafoe of energy. That would make him trillions of times into 3-A.

Not only is Aizens passive reitsu not universal but even when he extends it to universal ranges it doesn't even do nearly what you're trying to say it will do here.

Favorite among the two being discussed, genius.

That's a completely different sentence and to be perfectly honest I like Aizen way more than big T. Tathagata literally threw my all time favorite character in all of fiction into an endless cycle of misery and forced him to cannibalize his lover just so he can eat a deformed baby

 

[Planck69]

I have no idea how "Aizen doesn't passively annihilate the universe by existing" is a controversial statement yet here we are.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Mardicus is comparable from Midas, who upscale from 80 tons

His first move is usually his explosions, and he can split himself in two

Yeah ok he is kinda immune to Sans' TK.

Sans got stomped against Ness due to the latter starting with AoE attacks, btw.

 

[Dragonite007]

Yeah ok he is kinda immune to Sans' TK.

Sans got stomped against Ness due to the latter starting with AoE attacks, btw.

Ness AoE one-shot Sans, since they are not so far away, Sans maybe can survive a few hits before dying

 

[StrymULTRA]

Ness AoE one-shot Sans, since they are not so far away, Sans maybe can survive a few hits before dying

Depends, does the bomb dude one shot people of the value he's scaled from?

Because if not, then Sans will probably overwhelm him with danmaku, if he doesn't have ways to counter it.

 

[Dragonite007]

Depends, does the bomb dude one shot people of the value he's scaled from?

Nahh, he is pretty high in the scale chain,but there's no one-shot (since rarely bosses fight each others)
He can one-shot via Self-Destruction

Because if not, then Sans will probably overwhelm him with danmaku, if he doesn't have ways to counter it.

He could seal Sans's Magic, but its not a first move

 

[StrymULTRA]

He could seal Sans's Magic, but its not a first move

Sans takes barely 5 seconds to kill you if you don't properly dodge his attacks, just as a heads up.

 

[Planck69]

Strongest nonsmurf 5th 2-C (Li qiye vs Xue ying)

My fourth chinaman match Speed equalized Both at their peak of their 2-C keys Li Qiye walks into Mcdonalds for a meal, he had been too used to immortal food that he had to reset his tastebuds using commoners food, as well as introduce his maids to the highest food chain in their realm. The door...

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[BestMGQScalerEver]

universal range soul crush is craziest shit ive ever heard as a bleach fan. why do vs match debaters always come up with the wildest fanfics regarding peoples abilities

 

[Robo432343]

universal range soul crush is craziest shit ive ever heard as a bleach fan. why do vs match debaters always come up with the wildest fanfics regarding peoples abilities

Bro no this is accepted on the profiles
Universal to Interdimensional with Reiatsu (His Reiatsu would be able to shake the three realms of existence[Statistics Values 25])

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Bro no this is accepted on the profiles
Universal to Interdimensional with Reiatsu (His Reiatsu would be able to shake the three realms of existence[Statistics Values 25])

That's like saying he can annihilate the entire universe if it works with his soul crush

 

[Planck69]

Bro no this is accepted on the profiles
Universal to Interdimensional with Reiatsu (His Reiatsu would be able to shake the three realms of existence[Statistics Values 25])

The problem isn't the range but the idea that he's passively emitting Reiatsu at this range and scale constantly.

 

[DavidTPPM]

The problem isn't the range but the idea that he's passively emitting Reiatsu at this range and scale constantly.

Especially in the sense that everything inside of that range gets hit by Aizens full AP. Not only would that massively upscale Aizens AP but even the universe shaking feat itself didn't even lightly harm the regular humans on earth