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How does that dream thing work?
Edit: I looked, it seems this is solely from the fumes of the petals?
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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0
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Edit: I looked, it seems this is solely from the fumes of the petals?
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He creates a massive tree (tens to hundreds of meters tall) basically instantly, breathe a whiff of its fumes and you’re instantly forced into a dreamscape (it has a hundreds of meters range on his profile) where you’re forced to forget about reality and he can start altering and blocking out your memories from there. He can also fully control the actions of your body while you’re in this dream and you’re just under his control then on
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Yeah it comes from the fumes, and cause of how fast it kicks in you’d need something like Non-standard breathing or some other ability to avoid the ability entirely if you don’t resist all that stuff
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Fran
Fran is a member of the Black Cat Beastman and as such a catgirl with black hair. The Black Cat Beastman are a race cursed by the gods, making their evolution a lot more difficult than for other races, with the exact details how it is even possible unknown if not outright believed impossible. As...
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For free spot in 7-B.
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AddedFran
Fran is a member of the Black Cat Beastman and as such a catgirl with black hair. The Black Cat Beastman are a race cursed by the gods, making their evolution a lot more difficult than for other races, with the exact details how it is even possible unknown if not outright believed impossible. As...
For free spot in 7-B.
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Eshita Inana
Eshtar Inana, a major god from Mesopotamian mythology. Shinto Terraforming Inspector and Karamucho lover. So she’s also known as Mucho. Insta-killed Sumeragi and fears Senpai. Tier: 7-C | Low 5-B, 5-B against those with historical rank of the 7th generation mythologies or later Key: Divine World...
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Wally for free 10-C spot.
Karma for free 5-B spots.
Erma for the free spot in High 7-C.
For Low 7-B, I think Darquesse and Erma and Sophia should both be listed above Enel.
To explain:
- Darquesse telekinetically rips his body apart on the atomic level with a brief thought and then erases his soul before he can reform.
- He can't interact with her intangibility and things like life absorption on touch will do him in... or mind control and stuff.
- Sophia is resistant to his powers and can increase her durability to the point that he can't harm her. She, in turn, can easily win via charm (mind control).
Anyone want to argue in Enel's favor?
If not, the order should be Darquesse > Sophia > Erma
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Wouldn't the manipulation of matter have to be at the Macro-Quantum level for this to be possible with lightning?
Can you explain how all these hax work, her profile has practically no scans and the explanations are vague to the point of meaning nothing.
Same as above + being resistant to electricity means nothing if what she resists is not comparable to 200 million volts.
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How far can Kusuo go in 5-B? I looked until Mori Jin and I dont see any resistances to Layered Power Null and Telepathy, Plot Manipulation, Reality Warping and most of them lack Resistance to Mind Manipulation on a Reality Law level, I dont think they can come back from Interdimensional BFR and etc.
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Kusuo Saiki
Saiki Kusuo is the protagonist of Saiki Kusuo no Psi-nan (斉木楠雄のΨ難 Saiki Kusuo no Sainan, lit. "The Disaster of Psi Kusuo Saiki"). He is a high school student who possesses a wide range of psychic powers, making him one of the most powerful beings in the world. Born with these extraordinary...
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Wait wasn't Saiki a smurf or am I just tripping?How far can Kusuo go in 5-B? I looked until Mori Jin and I dont see any resistances to Layered Power Null and Telepathy, Plot Manipulation, Reality Warping and most of them lack Resistance to Mind Manipulation on a Reality Law level, I dont think they can come back from Interdimensional BFR and etc.
Kusuo Saiki
Saiki Kusuo is the protagonist of Saiki Kusuo no Psi-nan (斉木楠雄のΨ難 Saiki Kusuo no Sainan, lit. "The Disaster of Psi Kusuo Saiki"). He is a high school student who possesses a wide range of psychic powers, making him one of the most powerful beings in the world. Born with these extraordinary...
And yeah Mori gets hax stomped by Saiki in a speed equalized match. (without speed= Mori blitzes tho)
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He once had 5D Hax but it got removed due to R>F changes
Alright so I assume they will share the spot or smth? Would the passives save Kusuo?
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I would argue Logia users are not made out of their element while they have human shape. But if you disagree, well, then Darquesse has energy manipulation, too, and the atom-scale telekinesis still disperses him.
Honestly, the soul erasure is the main issue for Enel.
Her profile has webtoon links. Not that I like to use those myself. Tapas is better.
Mind control is via a hand gesture and then everyone obeys.
Life drain seems to be on touch.
It resists electricity on her tier, which is higher than Enel's AP. Between precog dodging and regeneration, I don't think Enel would get her to stay dead anyway.
Her charm works simply by looking into the opponent's eye.
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Saiki Kusuo Explanations
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I think unlike Mikami Kusuo will have abilities that would fit with a Comedy Series
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Can you like, give me a TLDR please?Saiki Kusuo Explanations
ShionAH
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Kusuo funny 4th wall, he write his own manga and novel (funni)Can you like, give me a TLDR please?
One day Kusuo lose protagonist role (oh no) a detective like character got the protagonist role (oh no)
because detective protagonist they passively plot armour, they are like sherlock they know everything and get everything right (funi)
so Kusuo have similar power but instead of sherlock he like a comedy character like spongebob or smth
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They automatically become intangible when in danger even when unconscious or when hit by a surprise attack in a casual environment.
Is this her energy manipulation? If so, it's irrelevant, Enel has no resurrection if she kills him the fight is over.
The EE is a problem, from what I've seen is through flames? Enel has several ways to predict and sense that the flames are a problem through intermediate Kenbunshoku.
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Does she have feats of affecting someone completely inorganic with her mind control? Enel is completely composed of electricity in his logia form and life drain doesn't matter much because Enel only goes into close-range combat if his electricity doesn't work.
Same as the above.
I'm pretty sure the wiki doesn't accept electricity in this way and defines the consequences of electricity as something separate from AP, defined by volts etc.
And Enel's regeneration is high while hers is mid.
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So like, how does it work in practice? Would it be like Mori goes to punch him in the face and slips on a banana peel and dies type plot armor?
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I'll just throw him at Gotrek Gurnisson!
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So Saiki is not 4-D anymore? I thought he regained his 4-D stuff
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Maybe more like right when Mori is gonna punch him, he remembers he left the stove on and just goes back home or smth lmao
But we dont actually have any explanation on it, we know Kusuo can completely control the narrative and this plot armour implies he can do it passively too
Nah, his 4D stuff was wack
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Yeah, but the whole point of this really just is to briefly stall him, so doing that is enough. This girl can summon a black flame that erases souls on people with a thought.
Honestly, not even sure why I brought it up, as the soul erasure is really all that matters.
No, she also just has generally the ability to manipulate energy.
Thing is, she will just summon them right on top of them. No travel time. Speed Equal, I don't think he can physically dodge that.The EE is a problem, from what I've seen is through flames? Enel has several ways to predict and sense that the flames are a problem through intermediate Kenbunshoku.
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Shielding her mind from Sensitives (a type of sorcerer), so anything from mind reading, to mind attacks, to illusions.
I don't think so? Then again, I have my doubts ghost magic cares. It's not like he has Type 2 Inorganic Physiology.
His electricity won't work, due to the aforementioned intangibility. And she can increase her physical touch range due to her hair manipulation, which lets her cover small regions of land in this key.
Yes, mind skills of the System generally work on the soul. (the mind is part of the soul in that series)
No I don't think so. Especially not for a case like this, as resistance in Kumo Desu Ga IIRC works by covering the body in a skin-tight barrier that does the corresponding resistance and such a barrier would care little about that. Resistances in that series definitely just operate on attack stats, in any case.
Matters little, as she wins via mind hax, while he has to win via physical destruction of a 7-A durability opponent with resistance.
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So she[Darquesse] probably wins but... as far as I remember the logia form is accepted as a separate body from the main one where the soul is stored, Does their EE/Charm have some way of connecting with the other body?
This would only stop the AP of the attack, especially since it is something so close to the body, the electricity would be conducted to the body, effects such as paralysis, cardiac arrest, etc, would still work and resistance to these effects are quantified through measurements such as volts.
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Donefor free Low 5-B.Eshita Inana
Eshtar Inana, a major god from Mesopotamian mythology. Shinto Terraforming Inspector and Karamucho lover. So she’s also known as Mucho. Insta-killed Sumeragi and fears Senpai. Tier: 7-C | Low 5-B, 5-B against those with historical rank of the 7th generation mythologies or later Key: Divine World...
Wally for free 10-C spot.
Karma for free 5-B spots.
Erma for the free spot in High 7-C.
For Low 7-B, I think Darquesse and Erma and Sophia should both be listed above Enel.
To explain:
I.e. I think they all stomp in speed equal. (Speed Unequal he could keep a spot besides them)
- Darquesse telekinetically rips his body apart on the atomic level with a brief thought and then erases his soul before he can reform.
- He can't interact with her intangibility and things like life absorption on touch will do him in... or mind control and stuff.
- Sophia is resistant to his powers and can increase her durability to the point that he can't harm her. She, in turn, can easily win via charm (mind control).
Anyone want to argue in Enel's favor?
If not, the order should be Darquesse > Sophia > Erma
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Kusuo would end up either below Mori or near him (speed equalized)
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It suffices if the attack connects to the soul, which it would. Darquesse can see the location of the soul.
And the soul isn't in some distant location to begin with. Logia body doesn't change that the soul is in the location of the body. So charm works, yes.
That would require the lightning to penetrate more than skin deep, which it wouldn't, because the before mentioned resistance skill negates it before that. Volts are only an independent phenomenon if you have a character that survives it due to just letting it conduct through the body. That isn't the case here. If the energy is completely negated, there is no voltage left.
In fact, I looked it up, and I remembered right. In chapter 198 it's mentioned that resistance is implemented by means of a passive forcefield that just negates the corresponding element. A forcefield doesn't care about voltage.
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I mean, she is in that SS SS with telekinesis (having no other rating except unknown). Not sure if we count that or not.
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You need to have SS, as in, being able to punch with that strenght. That is the same logic why freddy isn't in the top 10 strongest 7-A. Shouldn't she be High 8-C+, because her baseball feat, anyways?
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It is explicitly stated that physical attacks are negated, there is nothing about negating natural elements.
The mention about magic negation is an effect of the location being applied to her and does not come from her barrier, it is specifically only for magic and not natural elements.
Enel likely loses to Darquesse².
And this makes no sense:
1° Charm has no feats of affecting pure energy.
2° You stated that it doesn't matter because the soul will be affected.
3° Enel's soul is not present in his pure energy form.
4° You have not presented anything regarding affecting a soul that is not currently present.[The logia form would have to be disabled for what you said to be applicable]
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That's not really the case.
The True Body vs Element dichotomy isn't about the body being somewhere else much less about the soul not being present somehow.
Their body becomes an element, it isn't transported to somewhere else, whatever happens with the soul while they're elemental was never specified to my knowledge, but it's never implied that the soul goes somewhere else AFAIK.
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Transformers is now 6 qualitative layers into 1-A
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That would give them 3rd spot on 1A list
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Above Warhammer 40K?
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they should be above megami tensei now
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What i know, Megami Tensei is 7 layers
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yes 40k is like 3-4 layers into 1A
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Which one and why?
