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depending on the sealing he could just break out of it.
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…….. yeah Gerard’s soul has low godly. EE won’t do anything to Gerard when he specifically has the level of regen needed to come back from soul erasure.
And that will work one time at best. If Gerard killed Ichibei once, he can do it again since he is a beat stick aside from Hoffnung.
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Gerard has low godly which isn't gonna help against soul erasure. Unless you're saying Gerard is a soul? But that isnt stated on his page, he's just treated as a physical being and not spiritual. And his soul never regened from ee.
The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of the user's body, instead restoring it from their disembodied consciousness, whether that be their soul, mind, some other nonphysical aspect of themself, esoteric or metaphysical energy, or something else.
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Are you aware that Gerard is only a soul? Because I already pointed it out in a previous post that he has no physical body and is only a soul. Gerard regenerates from the reishi around him and not his body. His body was frozen and obliterated by Toshiro and Byakuya and he just reformed out of energy. He has low godly via regening his soul which means soul EE is useless against him.
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No? He has low godly through reishi manipulation, not the soul. That's my whole point. And again his soul never regened from ee.
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……. do you know what souls are? They are beings made of reishi. Stop talking if you don’t have a clue how shit works. If you accept that he has low godly via being reformed from reishi in the atmosphere, you concede that the EE does jack shit in the grand scheme of a fight between the two.
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What? How does he resist having his soul erased??? He can control reishi to reform his body but that does not warrant regeneration from soul erasure. You're misunderstanding how his regen works here. Also as I said before, he has nothing on his page saying he's a soul nor that he's incorporeal.
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Oh god. Okay. Let’s try this again. Souls = reishi, got it? Gerard is a soul. From here on, when I say “body” I am referring to his spiritual body, aka his soul.
Gerard had his body completely destroyed by Byakuya and Toshiro. He proceeded to regenerate from other reishi that was not part of his body. This means he created an entirely new body without anything from the original one. This means that even if you erase his body, he will just make a new one out of reishi. Reishi exists literally everywhere in the universes and between them. Gerard will never run out of reishi to remake himself before Ichibei tires out because there are infinite souls meaning there is infinite reishi.
Gerard had his body completely destroyed by Byakuya and Toshiro. He proceeded to regenerate from other reishi that was not part of his body. This means he created an entirely new body without anything from the original one. This means that even if you erase his body, he will just make a new one out of reishi. Reishi exists literally everywhere in the universes and between them. Gerard will never run out of reishi to remake himself before Ichibei tires out because there are infinite souls meaning there is infinite reishi.
And you aren’t reading what I am saying at all. Gerard only exists as a soul. He has no physical body. His “low godly” is him regenerating his spiritual body without anything from his original spiritual body. Gerard for all intents and purposes, basically has mid godly but since he doesn’t create a physical body, he doesn’t get mid and only low as he one regens one of the three which essentially serves as his physical body.
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Again,
Gerard schrift wont work on ichibei
Ichibei is a naturally arrogant/confident character which means that Gerard cant take Ichibeis fear to get stronger
Yes,
if Gerard schrift is active Ichibei loses but thats not the point
Gerard schrift wont work on ichibei
Ichibei is a naturally arrogant/confident character which means that Gerard cant take Ichibeis fear to get stronger
Yes,
if Gerard schrift is active Ichibei loses but thats not the point
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What? That scan is nothing but hyperbole. Gerard gets stronger by taking damage and healing. No one feared him when he first activated it cuz they stomped his ass and he still became huge.
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That isn't what mid godly is. IDK why you're ignoring what im saying. Ichibei has soul erasure. If gerard's soul gets erased he wont be able to come back cause he can't control anything cause he's been erased. AGAIN, on his page, he does not have anything that suggest he is a spiritual being.
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His own page brings up the fear thing right here
The Miracle: M - The Miracle is Gerard's innate power that manifest the fear of the masses like fear of not being able to destroy his body into reality. His power works by turning any and all damage, lethal included, into size and power.
So yea the fear matters.
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Are you even reading anything? Reishi (spiritual matter) and kishi (physical matter) are two different types of matter that don’t mesh. If he regens from reishi, which is souls, then his body is spiritual in nature. You don’t even know anything about this stuff and you are trying to argue such a stupid stance that basic reading comprehension and logic would tell you it’s wrong.
Yeah. You just aren’t reading anything. The second part of that paragraph blatantly says the Miracle converts damage into size and power. Ichibei can’t do anything to Gerard without amping him.
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I am reading what you're saying. I know what reishi is, and I know Gerard in his big forms is made from it, what I am arguing is that he will be erased on the spiritual level. This is something he has never shown to resist. So Gerard can't resist it. That's why he's low godly and not mid godly.
I dropped that Gerard statement for the miracle to show you guys that the fear is clearly a part of the ability since his page includes it into the ability's description.
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what prep? it's a simple Kido.. people like Kisuke can use Hado 99 instantly without incantation, the EE Kido is from the 50s Kido iirc and Ichibe has named everything there
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he has to pour the blackness into a bowl and chant and drink it. he also has to call upon the darkness from the hundreds nights no?
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Erasing a soul is erasing the reishi it’s made of. Gerard regens with reishi on a low godly scale which means he can regen his soul from erasure. No one is saying he resists it. It just doesn’t matter because he has the regen to come back from it.
We’re you even on the threads where the low godly got accepted? Because I can tell you it wasn’t because of the faulty information you keep pushing.
It is all hyperbole. Fear doesn’t make him bigger, taking damage does. Hoffnung doesn’t cause “despair” it’s damage reflection. Gerard is very clearly talking shit in that scan.
Gremmy gets blitzed and one shot by Ichibei. Not even funny. Gerard wins via not being able to die and only getting stronger while whoever attempts it keeps failing.
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whats that, I'm talking about the EE Kido, u just sayHado XYZ and its go like that lol
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Bro you can’t be serious, how’s he gonna regen if he doesn’t exist anymore?
pls stop
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Go back and read the pages where he performs it. He has to gather the blackness and then do a chant and then drink it. That’s prep.
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Ichibe never used that Kido bruh...
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Bro what????
GO READ BLEACH
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Nah u were talking about sth else lmao, I was talking about another Hado that has EEBro what????
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Byakuya feared him just read the fight again
Byakuya made sure to kill him twice because he had "something up his sleeve"
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Thank you
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Dude. Do you even know what godly regen means? Yes he can regen from his existence being erased.Bro you can’t be serious, how’s he gonna regen if he doesn’t exist anymore?
No. At the very start of the fight. Byakuya didn’t give a shit about Gerard and no diffed him with some help from Renji who didn’t even consider Gerard a big deal. There was no fear at all from either of them yet Gerard still became huge and explained how damage makes him become larger and stronger.
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U ignoring the first part
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Yeah he didn't give a shit but still had doubts and that's the key
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The first part is hyperbole. The despair thing is flowery la gauge without a doubt which throws the fear part into question. The fear part is also contradicted by the fact that the power was already explained to be damage conversion which was proven to be true. That scan means **** all and even if it somehow meant anything, it wouldn’t matter as Gerard still converts damage so people not fearing him is irrelevant. I don’t why people keep bringing up such stupid tangents.
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Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of the user's body, instead restoring it from their disembodied consciousness, whether that be their soul, mind, some other nonphysical aspect of themself, esoteric or metaphysical energy, or something else.
Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of body, mind, and soul.
gerard has low godly, he cannot come back from spiritual erasure. its that simple. If you think he should have spiritual erasure then please get a Crt.
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I see we can't agree
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Literally not how his power works. We were told and shown how it works and that scan directly contradicts what we are previously shown and told. That scan is either hyperbole and flowery language or straight up misinformation of the ability’s mechanics.
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Why can’t it be both?
