EldemadeDityjon
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His Besbed is created directly interact with roots (fundamental concepts) yeah it's a specific hax.
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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued
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Noneless21
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so she resist, since she also resist CM type 1, in unquantifiable level of layers
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She resists dura neg, for one kuro's very attacks dura neg. And resists CM1 very with a high amount of layers
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Makina doesn't resist conceptual destruction from what I'm seeing.
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Kaito who is blessed by Shiro (who Makina has the same power as), can negate durability, Kaito's blessing involves literally wearing her magic power.
Battles on a 6 King level involves nullifying regen and defenses, Shiro can causally create something like the piko piko hammer that pierces through all magical and physical defenses.
@Enter_Bluey Also reminded me about Kuo too, where she loves using durability negating stuff.
None of that stuff would work on Makina.
Anos still wouldn't have the range to reach her true form anyway i think, baseline 6-D range won't cover it.
Battles on a 6 King level involves nullifying regen and defenses, Shiro can causally create something like the piko piko hammer that pierces through all magical and physical defenses.
@Enter_Bluey Also reminded me about Kuo too, where she loves using durability negating stuff.
None of that stuff would work on Makina.
Anos still wouldn't have the range to reach her true form anyway i think, baseline 6-D range won't cover it.
Noneless21
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everything is from the first tab, and Makina is basically a composite of all of her tab in unquantifiable layers above baseline
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Like even ignoring the whole "infinite multi-dimensional universe" stuff, Alice's RE which has more restrictions than Makina's, lets her explosively evolve against her opponent, and then slows down after she outperforms them in all areas
This is how the current Alice is 5-D, being transcendent over the universe, time, space, life etc. So it clearly affects range too, the current Makina's range would also be far above 6-D.
This is how the current Alice is 5-D, being transcendent over the universe, time, space, life etc. So it clearly affects range too, the current Makina's range would also be far above 6-D.
EldemadeDityjon
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Silver Sea itself is 6D.
Venozdonor has range for that .
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The point is that she have above baseline 6D range though.Silver Sea itself is 6D.
EldemadeDityjon
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From what above mentioned 5D character with RE couldn't reach 6D range of hers i don't see where this above baseline 6D range comes from. Is this something like 6.2 Marvel thing? Is it stated
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Let me break this down for you.
Alice's ultimate battle form gives her infinite evolution, which will make her explosively grow to defeat her opponents, this is kinda dependent on her mindset so in a causal setting like a sparring match, she won't instantly jump to being physically 6-D when facing a 6-D being like Makina, however she still instantly adapted to Makina's aura, and Makina's null clairvoyance, wasn't able to stop Alice from using clairvoyance to figure out Makina's true identity.
Makina has this same exact ability which will let her evolve in all areas, minus the restrictions Alice has, ie needing to fight for Kaito in order to exert it's full potential, and went to a world whose world creator created an infinite multi-dimensional universe, and also is capable of creating higher dimensions.
The 2 got into a fight, that lasted a hundred million years, despite the fact Makina like Alice has infinite evolution, which means the currently Makina in terms of hax potency, ap, range etc is far far above baseline 6-D
Alice's ultimate battle form gives her infinite evolution, which will make her explosively grow to defeat her opponents, this is kinda dependent on her mindset so in a causal setting like a sparring match, she won't instantly jump to being physically 6-D when facing a 6-D being like Makina, however she still instantly adapted to Makina's aura, and Makina's null clairvoyance, wasn't able to stop Alice from using clairvoyance to figure out Makina's true identity.
Makina has this same exact ability which will let her evolve in all areas, minus the restrictions Alice has, ie needing to fight for Kaito in order to exert it's full potential, and went to a world whose world creator created an infinite multi-dimensional universe, and also is capable of creating higher dimensions.
The 2 got into a fight, that lasted a hundred million years, despite the fact Makina like Alice has infinite evolution, which means the currently Makina in terms of hax potency, ap, range etc is far far above baseline 6-D
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People with 6D range, ap and hax were unable to reach her true form, additionally Pegasus also showed how their range grow with RE and still wasn't enough to reach her.
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How would anos put her down
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Destruction is not the only application of conceptual manip, you should really be aware of that.
Aside from that, it is she can just passively null that or straight up resists cuz 6D CM1 in at peace is nothing new for the god tiers, unlike MG.
That's even not taking into account her immortality and the range in order get rid off makina's true body, which anos just doesn't have a way to deal with
EldemadeDityjon
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What about immeasurable speed? Can't he catch her off guard. She shouldn't be even able to catch up to him. Beside Anos abilities can affect the character even before the world gets created. He doens't need to prove or time travel he can just stand still and affect his opponents. He also has Acausality type 1. Negation.
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To kill Makina requires reaching her core, and not even the current Makina who has RE for a long time can reach it...
So yea safe to safe Anos isn't killing her, but as already said she has no way to perma kill Anos.
So yea safe to safe Anos isn't killing her, but as already said she has no way to perma kill Anos.
EldemadeDityjon
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It's not answering my questions. What if his attacks goes back in time and negs Makina even before she existed ? He doens't need to move his haxes can do that.
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Seeing as Makina still has type 8 immortality which would likely protect from being paradoxed... no.
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World Creator Acausality>Serious Fate fate hax>Alice's Acausality which makes her unbound by fate, destiny etc.
What would even count as Makina's original existence anyway? From the perspective of her world she has existed before time was even a thing, you would have to go to the past of another universe, but guess what World Creators can sense when time, and reality is being messed with.
What would even count as Makina's original existence anyway? From the perspective of her world she has existed before time was even a thing, you would have to go to the past of another universe, but guess what World Creators can sense when time, and reality is being messed with.
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Anos and Makina Stonewalls each other
Anos with Speed. Makina with being unreachable.
With that said If Anos can incap. will it even work with Makina that he can reach? especially how Anos hax in 6D are baseline if not 1-2 layers with self-scaling
Knives incon Makina
Anos also Incon Makina
at this point, It should be Anos vs Knives and whoever losses take the spot below, and whoever wins Shares spots with Makina
Anos with Speed. Makina with being unreachable.
With that said If Anos can incap. will it even work with Makina that he can reach? especially how Anos hax in 6D are baseline if not 1-2 layers with self-scaling
Knives incon Makina
Anos also Incon Makina
at this point, It should be Anos vs Knives and whoever losses take the spot below, and whoever wins Shares spots with Makina
EldemadeDityjon
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Anos has Acausality negation for type 1. I don't see Makina resisting that and it's In character that he uses that.
For his logic Manipulation Concepts of speed & time doesn't matter.
He has Immortality type 8 negation. He can just cut off her link with her core.
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Oh wow, 5-D immortality 8 negation vs 6-D type 8. Definitely no problem here
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@EldemadeDityjon You keep arguing as if the 2 are equal, they just aren't.
Like he can negate type 8 immortality, cool, you know how ridiculous Makina's type 8 immortality would be considering a hundred million years of evolution? She fought someone with omniscience like her and infinite evolution yet even after all that time they couldn't kill each other, until the walking outlier that is Shiro came and ended Makina's rival.
Anyway i have said my piece here, going to use what little time i have left before going to bed to play VN's.
Like he can negate type 8 immortality, cool, you know how ridiculous Makina's type 8 immortality would be considering a hundred million years of evolution? She fought someone with omniscience like her and infinite evolution yet even after all that time they couldn't kill each other, until the walking outlier that is Shiro came and ended Makina's rival.
Anyway i have said my piece here, going to use what little time i have left before going to bed to play VN's.
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Oof, I didn't bring up this busted immortality in the vs thread forgot how crazy it got
EldemadeDityjon
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I am not saying both are equal.
My bad forgot he doesn't have 6D feat for that.
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Yeah... issue with Anos in 6-D is a lot of his hax aren't 6-D lol
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Illidan Stormrage for the open spot in 5-B, all of his attacks dura neg plus he has an extreme amount of versatility and a large amount of AoE, and is extremely skilled in all forms of combat.
Obviously the downside he has is that his immortality is nowhere near combat-acclible and he has practically no regen to speak of, so if anyone has a passive in 5-B that insta-incaps or insta-kills, Illidan will probably lose to them.
Obviously the downside he has is that his immortality is nowhere near combat-acclible and he has practically no regen to speak of, so if anyone has a passive in 5-B that insta-incaps or insta-kills, Illidan will probably lose to them.
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Oh and also he has a resistance to practically everything under the sun
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Let's just say not good enough and leave it at that lol, we may find 10 layers at a later date but as it stands no
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Admittedly i am eyeing D-Greyman and trying to decide if I can beat them or not lol
Rakih_Elyan
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You guys just wait for another chapter of MG to upgrade Anos.
For the time being, Anos and Makina will share their place.
For the time being, Anos and Makina will share their place.
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Although, one thing I will ask, is anyone knowledgeable on Geist Ghoul enough to say if he's going to let some big knight looking mother ****** on a skeletal horse with a cursed blade get near enough to him to hit him with it?
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Xue Ying is 6D in the last key. All his hax is 6D...how would he be 6D with 5D hax... really guys. His powers the instant he became an Overlord were enough to defeat other beings like him with ease, mutiple of them.
His profile will be improved next year with better formatting, references, powers, etc so it would be easier to understand it but till then its good enough. 5-D is second last key, aka first Low 1-C while 6-D for second Low 1-C.
His profile will be improved next year with better formatting, references, powers, etc so it would be easier to understand it but till then its good enough. 5-D is second last key, aka first Low 1-C while 6-D for second Low 1-C.
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Bloodborne characters for 5-A spot via passive madness hax.
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We’d all be married with families by then
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The character from Weakest mage have several layers of madness hax.
Lazer also Reactive Evo pass his Madness Hax.
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BTW if Low Multiversal range is a big nono, Death Mage probably gets its ass handed to it, seeing as the main dude in it has said range and the others besides one don't look very impressive at all
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