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Yeah, anyway we are derailing the threadProbably cause the writers have forgotten about the glory and don’t want to make another thing higher than it
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Yeah, anyway we are derailing the threadProbably cause the writers have forgotten about the glory and don’t want to make another thing higher than it
Thank you for letting me know.Yeah, anyway we are derailing the thread
No reallyThank you for letting me know.
anyway have you added anyone new to the list?
I wish Pacheco could be added, he seems quite strong and broken.No really
He is in the list, at least in High 4-C and 3-CI wish Pacheco could be added, he seems quite strong and broken.
I dont understand what you tried to Said?
depends if this gets acceptedThe cosmology itself, yes
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I feel like there are a couple of small contradictions (Like the Eternals live on the 7th level and are above Chronovores when we are told that it actually shares pretty much the same nature and never get 7th level planet thing)Welcome to udl
2-A is psychical as well.Rimuru is physically 2B. If it was 2A physically, it would definitely take a spot.
If that's the case then their placement should be changed since they currently don't beat the people i listed in that post.being outdated asf
Nothing really, once I've mentioned they're not adequate for the top 5. They should at least have a draw against the guy in 8th though according to his profile.
What spot?Rose to 6-B
The 8th, Idk If she can beat ObitoWhat spot?
does she have any 4-D Hax or resistance?Btw, should this Loli Goddess take a spot too in Low 2-C?
Pretty sure her immortality is 4d since it exists in a higher planeI don't know about anything Characters in Low 2-C. but,
She has Abstract Existence (Type 1), since she is metaphysical and conceptual being that exists beyond human comprehension and perception of space-time (Pretty sure need Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) to interact with this).
Also she has Immortality (Type 9), because her true self is exists in the conceptual higher plane of existence beyond the human world (world is refer universe and also there are infinite number amount of universes).
Besides that, she has potential Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1, Aspect Type 2). She will remains exists forever eventhough her conceptual existence has been erased. If, anything happen.
Many more abilities like Information Manipulation (Type 2. Although this non combat applicable), Acausality (Types 1 & 4), Fate Manipulation based on Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2) and also Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), and Conceptual (Type 1) Existence Erasure (Since she erase herself which is conceptual being)
So would she take in which spot in Low 2-C?Pretty sure her immortality is 4d since it exists in a higher plane
How much range is needed to negate Immortality Type 9?Also she has Immortality (Type 9), because her true self is exists in the conceptual higher plane of existence beyond the human world (world is refer universe and also there are infinite number amount of universes).
sufficient, since her immo type 9 is based on 4-D then you need 4-D range to effectively kill herHow much range is needed to negate Immortality Type 9?
I guess universal+ to Multiverse range is not enough to negate her Immortality (Type 9), she exist in the dream world which higher Conceptual plane of existence beyond human worlds (Multiverse, there infinite amount of universes). Also she has Immortality (Type 5), Since she Freed from the concept of deathHow much range is needed to negate Immortality Type 9?
Y'know what?
Imma wait for Celestial Pegasus, because this shit should have at least some form of incorporeality, but there isn't, apparently
This is only for Almighty.which is not a big deal since Soul King has 2-A range iirc
I think almighty is not problem for her, she already removed from cycle of fate it's and she got Acausality (Type 4) from thatThis is only for Almighty.
so it's conditional? so Hajime use bloodlust and douse Yuuto with madness? That's what I'm seeing right nowWeird argument honestly, you become an Eternal, get ejected from your original timeline, ie you never existed, transcend time and space etc.
But there is an additional effect that when you leave a world, all information about you disappears, because an Eternal carries themselves within themselves, so literally everything about you won't even exist anymore, ie memories.
The argument here is Yuuto would leave the world, thus all info about him is erased, and then return and fight? While it's true Hajime wouldn't know anything about him, if Yuuto has any sort of killing intent or whatever, Hajime would still eliminate him as an enemy, so that whole argument is weird to me.
Hajime has the info analysis via evolution magic, and a compass, so permanently killing Yuuto isn't a problem. BDE doesn't grant resistance to info analysis, but is the argument gonna be that Yuuto is too complex to analyze? The ability doesn't grant that right now.
Idk about Eternal's fate hax being passive, pretty sure that it isn't, from memory it's just that if they consciously try to, they can easily manipulate the fate of whole worlds.
Now about the "world's" here, it's dependent on which game we are talking about, the nature of an Eternal doesn't change, but the scale does. I guess you can call it a retcon, originally Etenal's where beings limited by the mana of the world they went to, an Eternal's true form is information, so when they go to a world their bodies are remade using the mana of that world, and thus restricted by their rules. So in Aselia, world just means planet.
Seinarukana completely tosses this idea, it reinforces a lot of what was said in the Prequel, ie Eternal's not being able to remain in memory, but the scale gets absurd, world there can mean branch world which are universes, or the Time Tree, which is 5-D.
Like in Aselia, we learn of Eternal's warring with each other, fighting on planets, meanwhile in Seinarukana, they are using 5-D structures to seal each other with.
As for BDE, as it currently stands, it's just immunity to time and space abilities, there is no unnteractability there.
So she would be replace to soul king top 10 spot or can be higher spot??Btw, should this Loli Goddess take a spot too in Low 2-C?
This isWasn't their a rule about even if you have NEP, AE, TD, or some other form of uninteractability. That even if charact in spot #X can't hit you, but the opposers has no wincon but simply just can't be interacted with. They don't get the spot?
Something like being uninteractable =/= a Wisconsin
Hopefully I phrased that right..
She has AE1 (Concept, sure need CM1 to interact with this), Immortality (Type 9) and potential NEP (Nature Type 1, Aspect 2) if her conceptual existence erased btwBtw, should this Loli Goddess take a spot too in Low 2-C?
i see, well let's just say it didn't work, hajime should have his EE bullet, that could work, though he only have one shot at ending Yuuto,@Noneless21 What's conditional? If you mean the not remaining in memory stuff it goes like this:you become an Eternal, you get severed from all worlds, removed from the time axis you were born with, history chances so you never existed, all memories are erased.
That's the initial effect, but say afterwards you meet people form relationships with them, that's all good, until the Eternal leaves that world, and again that same effect will happen, all memories are erased, because when they leave a world they carry all information about themselves, within themselves, they exist nowhere but as themselves.
So yea Yuuto could leave the world and come back, and Hajime wouldn't know they were fighting before, but it doesn't really stop Hajime from killing him.
Mind=Soul in Aselia, and souls are conceptual, then you add to the whole nature on an Eternal's outside time and space, transcending it, that's their existence, there soul would be the same, thus if i am not wrong their souls would be type 1 concepts? Regardless Hajime's bloodlust isn't ancient magic, which is conceptual, so it wouldn't work, but somehow i can see someone coming and showing proof it works on people who resist soul magic, and soul magic is conceptual, so , if Eternal's souls are type 1 concepts, then it's not working, if not, then Hajime bloodlust probably works.
pretty muchWasn't their a rule about even if you have NEP, AE, TD, or some other form of uninteractability. That even if charact in spot #X can't hit you, but the opposers has no wincon but simply just can't be interacted with. They don't get the spot?
Something like being uninteractable =/= a Wisconsin
Hopefully I phrased that right..
It can affect people with resistance to ancient magic, like in the demon king castle everyone was equally scared of it, yes they could fair better against it than others but I would argue that is more because of their supernatural willpower (which you know well) than anything else. In the after stories when he face the noble class demons (you know, those famous named demons that master ancient magic) they also were affected, and I think there were also apparitions affected? You get the point though.Regardless Hajime's bloodlust isn't ancient magic, which is conceptual, so it wouldn't work, but somehow i can see someone coming and showing proof it working on people who resist soul magic, and soul magic is conceptual, so .