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Lmao this is some petty shit just to get a higher placement.
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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued (again)
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The weird thing is that I'm not even sure why Weekly is so insistent on showing that an OOC ability is not an ability. You would think it being OOC is enough for debate purposes...
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Weekly just got that dawg in him.
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Since The Hunter still lost to a DnD character then he can't be 1st. If the other are weaker than the one who defeated The Hunter then 1st slot should change to just him and not Characters from DnD.
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Idk how it goes but as far as I'm aware Hunter only had two D&D matches
Drinker beat him and Stone Golem stalemated him
I imagine you'd want to at least have 5 different D&D matches to see if they can consistently beat him or it's just Drinker
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One win and one draw, then DnD > Hunter is clear. If Weekly or anyone else want they can do more matches.
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Najimi Ajimu for 3-A
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Do you think the OnC characters could defeat the Stone Golem?
If they do then Stone Golem would share 3rd spot with Hunter, otherwise Stone Golem would probably just be in 1st spot alongside other D&D characters.
If they do then Stone Golem would share 3rd spot with Hunter, otherwise Stone Golem would probably just be in 1st spot alongside other D&D characters.
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Don't know enough about D&D to answer this, but if I had to harbor a guess I would say the only working strategies are OOC.
Edit: Well, concept space BFR could work. It's kinda debatable whether it's in-character, though. Tatsumi, the sister of the wielder of Susamikado and an alternate wielder for Typhon (who doesn't have the time concept when she uses it, so I usually don't mention her), used concept spaces for BFR once. There were special circumstances involved and they had to be. The reason nobody in the verse usually use it is quite easy to see: Every character that fights has a way to get out. Like, UCAT (concept war army basically) employees always have a watch strapped around their wrist which's purpose is to get them in and out of concept spaces. One could argue that against an opponent with no conceptual abilities it is more likely to be used, but... meh. Mostly would keep it in-character for just Tatsumi.
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Make sense, so the list should look something like this.
1. Characters from What a Beautiful Series
2. Higashikawa Mamoru
3. Zach Noveda
4. Yukio Hans Vorarlberna
5. Shichinin Misaki
6. Shinobu Oshino
7. Akane Kiryu
8. Hinata Tachibana
9. Teruhashi
10. Jean Grey (Pre-Retcon)
2. Higashikawa Mamoru
3. Zach Noveda
4. Yukio Hans Vorarlberna
5. Shichinin Misaki
6. Shinobu Oshino
7. Akane Kiryu
8. Hinata Tachibana
9. Teruhashi
10. Jean Grey (Pre-Retcon)
I'm sure i could argue Yukio beating Zach as well, but i'll save that when i revise his profile down the line as he's missing quite a few things.
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I believe Fiamma of the Right should have a placement on the 5-B tier, i can possibly see him beating Illidan Stormrage from what i'm reading, could be wrong.
Though that depends on if he's considered as smurf or not because it's stated that Fiamma absorbed Touma's Imagine Breaker, which has High 1-C Power Nullification against supernatural powers and entities, and i'm guessing Fiamma's Right Hand would count as a supernatural ability. Which implies it counteracted the null because he did absorb it.
@DontTalkDT @XDragnoir can the both of you provide more context about this? since i'm not that knowledgeable about Toaru so i could be misunderstanding something.
Though that depends on if he's considered as smurf or not because it's stated that Fiamma absorbed Touma's Imagine Breaker, which has High 1-C Power Nullification against supernatural powers and entities, and i'm guessing Fiamma's Right Hand would count as a supernatural ability. Which implies it counteracted the null because he did absorb it.
@DontTalkDT @XDragnoir can the both of you provide more context about this? since i'm not that knowledgeable about Toaru so i could be misunderstanding something.
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A. He seems to lack resistances so all of Illidan's attacks kinda just go through him and Holy Right with 0 issue, plus Illidan can Teleport
B. Any form of smurfiness in any way DQs him so... yeah.
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wow, the DnD characters that stomp everyone in 8-A are the weakest characters in the 8-B list
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A. He doesn't need resistances when Holy Right automatically protects him from all of Illidan's attacks, and Holy Right could absorb or deconstruct the attacks before they hurt Fiamma or Holy Right, also Fiamma can teleport as well, so that doesn't really help Illidan either.
B. I know.
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Also Ada (Brouto) should have a placement at 5-B as well, she has Passive Mind Manipulation and Empathic Manipulation which kinda negs Illidan and Saika from what i'm seeing, it shouldn't effect Fiamma however because he has a resistance towards Mind Manipulation, so he'd be able to fight against Ada if needed. The Empathic Manipulation would only make him fall in love with her, which could be a problem depending on his character.
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Neither of which are on his profile sooooo
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Illidan has a layered resistance to Mind Manipulation, how layered is Ada's?
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He definitely has Absorption on his profile, it's directly by his Miracle Creation, and Feather of Light isn't considered as Deconstruction, which is surprising considering the explanation provided implies Deconstruction to me but i guess i was wrong.
Idk if i'm blind or what but i don't see a resistance to Mind Manipulation or Empathic Manipulation in his P&A's section, is it somewhere else on his profile?
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I probably missed absorption, as for Decon yeah it definitely ain't there
He has it via Magic Absorption under his mage section, and layered for being outright immune to it via having been a boss enemy.
As for falling in love, assuming the empathy manip isn't via mind manipulation, Illidan would probably be willing to knock her out, while love for Tyrande was a weakness of his in his 7-A keys, by the time of Legion he's grown out of that to the point of saying Tyrande picked the right dude in Malfurion.
instinctive action is not Deconstruction or Absorption. If you thought this, how?
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When you said "both these things", I took it as you saying the right hand protecting him and the teleport.
Which both definitely are.
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Why would it be anything but the two genuine hax listed???
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I've checked both the Magical Absorption resistances and the blog linked, and neither have Mind Manipulation or Empathic Manipulation listed there, i don't know if Weekly missed some abilities or what but it's objectively not listed on either pages.
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It should be there, since Mind Control is a spell that exists for priests and is Shadow specifically, not holy
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Because both are functions of the Hand itself, which would only require that part of the justification be elaborated upon and that's it.
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If the functions were the problem I would have been specific about that lol
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Illidan does have mind resistance yes, it seems I forgot to add that
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Around 10 layers
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Yeahahahahaha that pierces Illidan's resistance lol, probably pierces Fiamma's too
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What are those layers?
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Capable of effecting Sasuke who resists IT which can effect EMS users who have superior Resistence to The MS which resists Tsukuyomi and MS Genjutsu which effects perfect jinchuurakis who resist three Tomoe Sharingan mindhax which is better then two Tomoe which is better then 1 Tomoe which is above baseline genjutsu
Or Eida>Rinnegan Sasuke Resistence>IT>EMS Resistence>MS Resistence>MS Genjutsu/Tsukuyomi>Perfect Jinchuuraki Resistence>Three Tomoe Sharingan>two Tomoe Sharingan>One Tomoe Sharingan>Normal genjutsu
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Wait, is this one of the abilities that requires eye contact?
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Nope Eida’s aura is passive (she can’t even turn it off)
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I'd also like to put forward Saika Kuozaki (first key) for 5-B. She starts out by forming a pocket dimension which automatically manipulates fate in her favour without her controlling which possibility it brings forth.
Which means that as long as she can bring forth her fourth substantiation, which is not innately harmful on it's own, the future it brings forth will be the most beneficial one for her regardless of her current state of mind.
Which means that as long as she can bring forth her fourth substantiation, which is not innately harmful on it's own, the future it brings forth will be the most beneficial one for her regardless of her current state of mind.
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What's the range on that aura?
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She's already up there, but should probably be higher in that case
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