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that still won`t make him be higher on the list.
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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation
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Being impossible to kill doesn't grant a spot here...
Dragonite007
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He needs to beat someone, since the tier is full, I suggest Rimuru
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Dragonite007
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Why i have to put him against Planck?
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How exactly is that considered being Low 2-C by himself? It says that's with his eyes specifically. That isn't a physical tier.
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Zhong Yue should be kicked from 3-B
he has 2-C range
he has 2-C range
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Which isn't actual 2-C range because he cannot affect the entire structure with it, the only reason why it isn't interdimensional is because we reserve it for stuff that only affects two universes in specific (Yes it is as strange as it sounds)
CodeCCLL
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Tensura (Light Novel) Characters Vs Alte - Battle For The Third Strongest High 6B Non-Smurf
Shion (Light Novel) (Oni) / Yuuki Kagurazaka (Light Novel) (Human) / Diablo (Light Novel) (Arch Demon) Vs Alte Barrette (Fully Equipped) SBA Speed Equalized Note: Only Tensura (Light Novel) characters who can defeat Alte in one-on-one combat can replace Alte. Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurf List
This a stomp due to Diablo's Spiritual Lifeform Physiology, passives and Shion's layered fate manipulation, causality manipulation, law manipulation, attack reflection, rw and Yuuki's powernull, resistance negation, information manipulation type 2, magic based power mimicry. Alte's defense cannot do anything against these haxes, and layered transmution, one of his abilities that can be effective offensively, cannot affect the type 2 info soul of tensura characters, so even though Shion and Yuuki take the first hit by Alte, they are still destroying Alte with the abilities they have.
In summary: Tensura characters should replace Alte in High 6B.
EL_xWatcher1234x
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those layers are wrong because every hax in the verse don't do any effect on someone with more mana than the user.
CodeCCLL
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Also unless I'm missing something, just like in 6A, Diablo and Ehitorujue seem to beating the Ergenverse characters, the Ergenverse characters unable to even interact with Diablo and Ehit.
It would be nice if someone could explain what Ergenverse characters can do against Diablo or Ehit.
It would be nice if someone could explain what Ergenverse characters can do against Diablo or Ehit.
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EL_xWatcher1234x
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Ehit have CM type 1 and resistance to it
Diablo got regeneration and tons of hax they can't resist.
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As someone who have read several chinese novels makes sense that amount.
Type 1 concept hax in arifureta is more for when characters are really pushed against the wall, it's only at that point that the characters in question get an desire so strong that their will create a type 1 magic. The only exceptions are already existing type 1 magics that are enhanced in things, like the key to teleport to any desired place, the compass anything the user wish, the chains that negate existence (all the previous stuff owned by the protagonist Hajime, except the chains after his tier 6-C key, at the 6-B range they became a single use bullet and at tier 5 he no longer possess it), and the sanctuary of Ehit (a pocket dimension where Ehit reside and control at will). The resistance to type 1 concept however is more practical, as someone like ehit can resist stuff like that even when attacked by surprise, and other characters can get their adapt to resist it through their will.
Ancient magic is type 2 concept and law hax, between said ancient magic is spatial magic and after some point most notable characters had resistance to it, in the case of Hajime he even passively nullify it (he nullify all ancient magic) in his close proximity.
The layers where accepted in a past thread, now in the new layers thread someone mentioned them, then everything commented about the explanation in the blog saying that there are some layers but also noted that he didn't understand some parts, I answered back about those parts and then nothing more happened. So currently it isn't like they have been debunked or something like that, for that more debate and actual staff vote would be needed, if that end happening is fine, but at the moment that isn't still the case.
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For what spot you think?
Gonna be a while before i get to making it, and every critter and kikai exist as type 2 information, while also being able to manipulate that, or in Grimm's case, not even existing as that, but the clown is still kinda broken at this point, it's presence alone can cause fear to things which are immune to fear.
And said ability/abilities are math and physics manipulation, Inganock was always op before, but hard to wrap my mind around the characters just straight up forcing things on characters which lack them like Gii reducing possibilities to particles, or Lemure forcing the concept of time, on things which have no concept of time.
Golden King is gonna be all kinds of broken, when i get to him seeing as his presence along can atomize critters...
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6th spot at least. Don't know how he is going to face against bebe since bebe is chinaman verse
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6th is fine, i won't even bother arguing against the chinamen until everything is good to go, and even then i might not even make the effort.
Wonder what cool matchups can be possibile, seems like the cast are veering into the stomp or get stomped category. I did briefly amuse myself with a vs match idea of Lemure Lemure vs Gojo, Infinite vs Infinite, once i get the High 7-C upgrades passed, but i think Gojo has been spammed enough.
Wonder what cool matchups can be possibile, seems like the cast are veering into the stomp or get stomped category. I did briefly amuse myself with a vs match idea of Lemure Lemure vs Gojo, Infinite vs Infinite, once i get the High 7-C upgrades passed, but i think Gojo has been spammed enough.
Oliver_de_jesus
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Yeah, let the poor guy sleep for a while
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Hogger
Hogger, chieftain of the Riverpaw pack, is a elite gnoll found atop his hill in southwestern Elwynn Forest. His defeat is the objective of a quest for low-level Alliance players. While Hogger's significance in-game was originally minimal, his relative difficulty at such a low level has caused...
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Hogger to placehold in High 8-C
Tempestdragon6
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Should i make match for rimuru to get a spot 2c ?
Dragonite007
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Just If you want the 8th spot or above
Tempestdragon6
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Oh i will make it then
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Rimuru can prolly fight the castlevanias
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passive plot hax 4D
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Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Just Touhou characters in general, since even low tier youkai have passive fear hax, spirit absorption, space-time manipulation, and mid-godly regen paired with incorporeality, intangibility, and a lot of resistances that make them difficult to even harm, let alone kill.
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Do you think they can do anything against Regulus or would they just tie?
The summary is he has a time stopped existence that allows him to essentially exist outside of causality and not be affected by anything. It acts like Type 5 acausality in matches.
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Yknow what's funny? Tewi Inaba actually hard counters his gimmick, because she broke the spell of eternity over Eientei, which does literally the exact same thing as Regulus' time stop fuckery. She also passively bends probability and fate to her advantage because of funny verse mechanics, so good luck dealing with that. And it's not like he can kill her, either, so she just eventually wins.
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Kill the wives.
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Alright, I finally updated the list.
I removed Pink Panther from the list because of his out-of-date profile and that, seemingly, no one who is knowledgeable about the character is active anymore. Making his placement on this list pointless.
@Armorchompy I didn't increase Gibby's placement in 9-A for the simple fact I can't really say if he beats the characters you're arguing he should be above or not. It's like, 3:50AM right now for me and my brain is mush. I would recommend you create threads for changes in the future, it decreases the workload for me and increases the clarity of that specific character's placement on the list. It doesn't require me to deduce if this one character can beat the other or not as the main knowledgeable members of both verses have reached a conclusion on who wins/loses. This also extends to tiers I didn't add him to yet, like 8-A.
I removed Pink Panther from the list because of his out-of-date profile and that, seemingly, no one who is knowledgeable about the character is active anymore. Making his placement on this list pointless.
@Armorchompy I didn't increase Gibby's placement in 9-A for the simple fact I can't really say if he beats the characters you're arguing he should be above or not. It's like, 3:50AM right now for me and my brain is mush. I would recommend you create threads for changes in the future, it decreases the workload for me and increases the clarity of that specific character's placement on the list. It doesn't require me to deduce if this one character can beat the other or not as the main knowledgeable members of both verses have reached a conclusion on who wins/loses. This also extends to tiers I didn't add him to yet, like 8-A.
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About 3-B, shouldn't "Characters from Asura's Wrath (Asura and Chakravatin)" be higher?
The new calc puts them at around 1.9 billion times higher than what they were before in tier, meaning that Asura/Chakravatin can easily just one-shot anyone up to the Celestials. I dunno about Nipponverse though.
The new calc puts them at around 1.9 billion times higher than what they were before in tier, meaning that Asura/Chakravatin can easily just one-shot anyone up to the Celestials. I dunno about Nipponverse though.
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Since i'm removing Cloud from the list until I can figure out if resisting the Life-Stream provides 4-D resistances or not, and I believe they demolish Marina given her lack of abilities. I'm fine with increasing their placement on the list. I'm not entirely sure if they can defeat the Celestials given I believe they have some decent abilities that might prove difficult for Asura and Chakravartin. I guess I would recommend creating a versus thread and see if either character can defeat the Celestials or not.
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Charkravatin in his weaker form absolutely dwarfs the Celestials in size (one makes galaxies look barely visible compared to it, the others instead are barely bigger than one each), plus about AP they're already almost 2400 times stronger. Not to mention that ability-wise Chakravatin has almost anything the Celestials have, and much, much more stuff as well.
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