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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

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@Spilxson2 As for Batman and Mario's placements, I can't confidently say if they do or don't have any smurf equipment or abilities since I've never played through the games or read through the comic book before. I would ask more knowledgeable members on either verse and see if they do or don't before requesting their position on this list.
 
Deceived3596 said:
Dude, I can see. I just updated the list, stop ******* spamming this like I'm blind or something.

Shit is annoying as all hell.
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Hey deceived, deceived, deceived, deceived, guess what?
Marital peak charcaters for garou spot in 4A and 3C. YANG Kai already stomped garou in a previous match
 
For 10th High 6-A.

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Remove Mewtwo from the pokemon examples in 3-C. He has low multiversal teleportation.
 
As of the hax layer thread, Ergenverse dudes have 10 layers of resistance per realm, so mid Nascent Soul cultivators (like Ji Mo) have 45-ish layers of mind/soul/power null hax, which are also passives as well as equal resistance to them.

Type 1 is an issue tho. Only from 5-A onwards do they resist it. But I don't think it matters since they're getting soul destroyed.

Ji Ning has fewer layers, (I think only 9) but he has thought-based spatial lock that prevents mind-based powers and manifests via Type 2 concept hax. He doesn't resist Type 1 either so it depends on what Arifureta can do there.
 
Setsuna_tenma said:
arifuera is lossing a lof of its hax layers into the hax layer thread. They do resist type 1 concept hax
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It's not official yet.
I checked hax layers thread and it has been based on the lack of explanation.
Before the scaling itself there is certain information that need to first be established:

Divine Edict is really powerful spirit magic with a mechanic that make it stronger when the user uses their full name[1] compared with the shortened version of their name, this difference in power is show to be significant enough [2] to overcome people able to resist the version with the shortened name, so Shortened Divine Edict < Full Divine Edict.

Between ancient magic exist evolution magic which significantly increase the power of things multiplying their strength[3], specifically weak evolution magic[4] double the potency[5] of something[6], normal evolution magic[7] that anyone can use[8] triple[9] the power[10] of things[2], and can increase[11] it fivefold[12], can increase the level of skills several times[13][14] multiplying their effects[15], evolution magic ability[7] affect[16] anything[2] and[17] everything[4] without distinction[6] because of its control[12] of information[18]. Does this include feats of things that would resist? So based on that Normal Divine Edict < Evolved Divine Edict.

So based on that previous information the scaling for Divine Edict go like this:

Limit Break Users/Kouki Resistance (Limit Break do damage to the soul, so those that can use Limit Break will get their soul permanently damaged if their soul isn't strong enough[19]. Kouki is someone able to use Limit Break without problem) < Kouki Overload Resistance (Overload is the superior version of Limit Break that put a greater burden in the user[20]) < Eri/Apostles Dark Magic (Is an inferior version[21] of spirit magic, and people who can resist it[22] can't resist[23] spirit magic[24]. Additionally she could affect with her magic Kouki soul) Getting somewhere here < Normal Spirit Magic (spirit magic resist[25] dark magic) < Eddy Divine Edict (Paladins special magic[23] is superior[26] to other Atavists, and Divine Edict is a specially powerful[1] spirit magic that can affect[12] people who resist spirit magic[27]) Looks promosing < Eddy Maker Divine Edict < Apostleified Eddy Divine Edict (apostleification boost the strength of the user magic[12] [likely with evolution magic since it's done by Ehit himself] and the replicas of holy artifacts that they wield futher strengthen their magic) < Apostleified Eddy Maker Divine Edict[12] < Laus Barn Spirit Magic (Laus, even in a half dead state, can supress[26] the spirit magic of those apostleified Relevance?) < Zero Alva Divine Edict (Is needed the combined effort[25] of most Liberators to face him) < Zero Alvaheit Divine Edict < Zero Alva Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Zero Alvaheit Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Current Alva Divine Edict (Because of the technique that turn faith in power his current power is conceptually far above[28][29] than his Zero version Adding Conceptual doesnt change anything) < Current Alvaheit Divine Edict < Current Alva Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Current Alvaheit Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Zero Ehit Divine Edict (Ehit is conceptually superior to Alva and his Divine Edict[30] can't be resisted by those that resist Alvaheit Divine Edict) < Zero Ehitorujue Divine Edict < Zero Ehit Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Vol 6 Laus Barn Spirit Magic (By giving his all he was able to resist[12] Ehit Divine Edict) < Zero Ehitorujue Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Current Ehit Divine Edict < Current Ehitorujue Divine Edict < Current Ehit Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Current Ehitorujue Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Soul Shell (Resist[31] Ehitorujue Divine Edict) < Yue Divine Edict (Is far above[32] Ehitorujue and can affect those that resist[33] Ehitorujue Divine Edict and with Soul Shell) < Post-Shadow Dragon Arc Yue Divine Edict (Her existence is conceptually stronger[34] than before do to dragon gods conception, and the more time pass the stronger her existence will become because of the conception)
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Planck69 said:
As of the hax layer thread, Ergenverse dudes have 10 layers of resistance per realm, so mid Nascent Soul cultivators (like Ji Mo) have 45-ish layers of mind/soul/power null hax, which are also passives as well as equal resistance to them.

Type 1 is an issue tho. Only from 5-A onwards do they resist it. But I don't think it matters since they're getting soul destroyed.

Ji Ning has fewer layers, (I think only 9) but he has thought-based spatial lock that prevents mind-based powers and manifests via Type 2 concept hax. He doesn't resist Type 1 either so it depends on what Arifureta can do there.
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Arifueta's hax layers are under revision.

so it's an advantage

most of the verse hax comes from Law and CM2.
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
Arifueta's hax layers are under revision.

so it's an advantage

most of the verse hax comes from Law and CM2.
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As of the thread that pushed for it and the evaluation thread, if it hasn't been accepted then the layers cannot be used, period. We don't just go along with something explicitly out-of-date with standards like this.
 
YungManzi said:
None, it wasn’t really addressed by anyone in the thread.
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What do you call this?
Before the scaling itself there is certain information that need to first be established:

Divine Edict is really powerful spirit magic with a mechanic that make it stronger when the user uses their full name[1] compared with the shortened version of their name, this difference in power is show to be significant enough [2] to overcome people able to resist the version with the shortened name, so Shortened Divine Edict < Full Divine Edict.

Between ancient magic exist evolution magic which significantly increase the power of things multiplying their strength[3], specifically weak evolution magic[4] double the potency[5] of something[6], normal evolution magic[7] that anyone can use[8] triple[9] the power[10] of things[2], and can increase[11] it fivefold[12], can increase the level of skills several times[13][14] multiplying their effects[15], evolution magic ability[7] affect[16] anything[2] and[17] everything[4] without distinction[6] because of its control[12] of information[18]. Does this include feats of things that would resist? So based on that Normal Divine Edict < Evolved Divine Edict.

So based on that previous information the scaling for Divine Edict go like this:

Limit Break Users/Kouki Resistance (Limit Break do damage to the soul, so those that can use Limit Break will get their soul permanently damaged if their soul isn't strong enough[19]. Kouki is someone able to use Limit Break without problem) < Kouki Overload Resistance (Overload is the superior version of Limit Break that put a greater burden in the user[20]) < Eri/Apostles Dark Magic (Is an inferior version[21] of spirit magic, and people who can resist it[22] can't resist[23] spirit magic[24]. Additionally she could affect with her magic Kouki soul) Getting somewhere here < Normal Spirit Magic (spirit magic resist[25] dark magic) < Eddy Divine Edict (Paladins special magic[23] is superior[26] to other Atavists, and Divine Edict is a specially powerful[1] spirit magic that can affect[12] people who resist spirit magic[27]) Looks promosing < Eddy Maker Divine Edict < Apostleified Eddy Divine Edict (apostleification boost the strength of the user magic[12] [likely with evolution magic since it's done by Ehit himself] and the replicas of holy artifacts that they wield futher strengthen their magic) < Apostleified Eddy Maker Divine Edict[12] < Laus Barn Spirit Magic (Laus, even in a half dead state, can supress[26] the spirit magic of those apostleified Relevance?) < Zero Alva Divine Edict (Is needed the combined effort[25] of most Liberators to face him) < Zero Alvaheit Divine Edict < Zero Alva Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Zero Alvaheit Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Current Alva Divine Edict (Because of the technique that turn faith in power his current power is conceptually far above[28][29] than his Zero version Adding Conceptual doesnt change anything) < Current Alvaheit Divine Edict < Current Alva Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Current Alvaheit Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Zero Ehit Divine Edict (Ehit is conceptually superior to Alva and his Divine Edict[30] can't be resisted by those that resist Alvaheit Divine Edict) < Zero Ehitorujue Divine Edict < Zero Ehit Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Vol 6 Laus Barn Spirit Magic (By giving his all he was able to resist[12] Ehit Divine Edict) < Zero Ehitorujue Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Current Ehit Divine Edict < Current Ehitorujue Divine Edict < Current Ehit Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Current Ehitorujue Divine Edict with Evolution Magic < Soul Shell (Resist[31] Ehitorujue Divine Edict) < Yue Divine Edict (Is far above[32] Ehitorujue and can affect those that resist[33] Ehitorujue Divine Edict and with Soul Shell) < Post-Shadow Dragon Arc Yue Divine Edict (Her existence is conceptually stronger[34] than before do to dragon gods conception, and the more time pass the stronger her existence will become because of the conception)
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At least 10 were accepted,the other layers weren't accepted because the lack of explanation .
 
You can replace Travis in High 5-A with Kamui from the same verse, who at the expense of being worse at actual fighting has passive subconscious manipulation(It's basically like Heavy Weather from JoJo only it makes you go mad and die rather than 🐌🐌🐌), abstract existence, parasitic immortality, etc. Granted the profile isn't among my best, maybe I should refresh it up a bit, but still. I'm not really interested in reading 100k bytes of Xianxia P&A but his ass is definitely beating the Pink Panther at least.

On the topic of High 5-A, I think Viewtiful Joe should be higher than Dante. A VS thread between that Dante and VJ Dante never really concluded but I think it was at least roughly even, and VJ Joe is just way better than VJ Dante, even has some kinda situational but still pretty handy one-shot duraneg with VFX Split.
 
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