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interesting1-B, and requires he fists what he is trying to null.
Yes, it was Soul Crush since Jorgen couldn't do anything against Soul Crush, he is also there in part because of the promised future crt to soul crush that still don't happen.Soul Crush iirc.
Huh, then they should take it. paralysis and fear are resisted hard. Last I checked, potency was at hundreds of souls against Que's and Wang Lin's 4 layers above "tens of thousands" resistance. Add their Divine Sense and they should handle it.Yes, it was Soul Crush since Jorgen couldn't do anything against Soul Crush, he is also there in part because of the promised future crt to soul crush that still don't happen.I would honestly make a match with the Arifureta characters since I'm pretty sure they can win easily but since the 6-A will be downgraded in a near crt I don't see the point in do the fight now.
SheHe'll share the spot with Dr. Gerald.
Reiatsu Crush.
No he isn't? that has nothing to do with his placement at that tier?he is also there in part because of the promised future crt to soul crush that still don't happen
I don't believe we use the amount of souls as potency anymore given I've ask a similar question regarding the amount of souls and it's potency with Soul Manipulation and was told by Everything that the amount of Souls don't matter.Huh, then they should take it. paralysis and fear are resisted hard. Last I checked, potency was at hundreds of souls against Que's and Wang Lin's 4 layers above "tens of thousands" resistance. Add their Divine Sense and they should handle it.
This is in reference to a thread suggesting this that was never fully concluded. Like, if you can point me where "numbers no longer matter", I'd be thankful.Reiatsu Crush.
No he isn't? that has nothing to do with his placement at that tier?
I don't believe we use the amount of souls as potency anymore given I've ask a similar question regarding the amount of souls and it's potency with Soul Manipulation and was told by Everything that the amount of Souls don't matter.
4 layers is above the "tens of thousands" feat. Overall he has 7-8 layers starting from baseline.Kenpachi also has 4 layers of potency regarding most of his Reiatsu Crush's abilities bare-minimum so they could possibly bypass those resistances.
Illusions and pain are resisted ala Divine Sense (As in, cultivators, who can fight through crushed bones and ruptured internal organs are debilitated pain). Never mind how cultivators can take control of the internal spiritual energy of opponents passively.Kenpachi also has these abilities with his Reiatsu in this Key as well:
"Passive Illusion Creation and Pain Manipulation (Kenpachi’s Reiatsu is stated to put people under illusions which feel like “You were being tripped over a mountain of Needles"), Passive Deconstruction (Kenpachi’s Reiatsu is stated to causes Reishi to burn and crumble away), Passive Spatial Manipulation (Kenpachi’s Reiatsu causes the walls of the Garganta to crack)"
Yeah, it is since it was said several times how you will give several abilities, range and layers to SC, the match with Commissioner R was a prime example, how the several post in the old thread when it was talked about the future potency of SC and things like that, but anyways.No he isn't? that has nothing to do with his placement at that tier?
Sure let me grab my thread and the thread that changed Soul Manipulation/Mind Manipulation potency'sThis is in reference to a thread suggesting this that was never fully concluded. Like, if you can point me where "numbers no longer matter", I'd be thankful.
Kenpachi's scales above "Tens of thousands" as well given he can RC Menos Grande and Low Ranking Espada.4 layers is above the "tens of thousands" feat. Overall he has 7-8 layers starting from baseline.
Alright.Illusions and pain are resisted ala Divine Sense (As in, cultivators, who can fight through crushed bones and ruptured internal organs are debilitated pain). Never mind how cultivators can take control of the internal spiritual energy of opponents passively.
That has nothing to do with Kenpachi's placement within this thread.Yeah, it is since it was said several times how you will give several abilities, range and layers to SC, the match with Commissioner R was a prime example, how the several post in the old thread when it was talked about the future potency of SC and things like that, but anyways.
I mean, in Jorgen specific case that's indeed the case (though still would needed the crt to add them the kilometers range since without that Jorgen don't die the moment the fight begin but anyways), with the other member of the list however is different, for example:That has nothing to do with Kenpachi's placement within this thread.
Jorgen literally has no resistances towards Soul Manipulation so theirs no need for layers nor other hax's.
Kenpachi don't have powernull, Ichigo also don't have it, even after see the profiles of all the captains the only ones that have powernull are Mayuri Kurotsuchi and Tōshirō Hitsugaya with specific techniques, the only exception is Aizen that say is able to null 'abilities of weaker being with his Reiatsu'. So this is another power claimed to have SC that isn't in the profiles and thus would be needed to be added in a future crt.Kenpachi could possibly counter-act that with his Reiatsu given Reiatsu has inherent powernull properties behind it.
That thread ended by just agreeing to use both. You can even see that the changes were applied to the mind manipulation and hax pages and it basically just says to judge things with context, not that numbers were discarded.
Is there a thread or scan with this?Kenpachi's scales above "Tens of thousands" as well given he can RC Menos Grande and Low Ranking Espada.
He doesn't have power null listed and there's layers on top of it for Er Gen as well.Then he could possibly resist the hax's but we'll have to wait and see when i grab the threads if he actually does or not.
Alright.
Kenpachi could possibly counter-act that with his Reiatsu given Reiatsu has inherent powernull properties behind it.
High 1-A Plot Manipulation and Reality Warping that can't be nulled by The Mage.I've not been to one of these in a long time, what makes the SCP people above the Mages?
Wouldn't it? What would stop it being nullified by the Mages, they have the potency for it.High 1-A Plot Manipulation and Reality Warping that can't be nulled by The Mage.
They've been mostly discarded but not completely discarded so i was wrong.That thread ended by just agreeing to use both. You can even see that the changes were applied to the mind manipulation and hax pages and it basically just says to judge things with context, not that numbers were discarded.
So, you'd have to prove that the soul pressure acting on an area is is stronger based on more numbers before using it. That's the case for Ergenverse, I dunno about Bleach.
There's a scan let me grab it.Is there a thread or scan with this?
He should and i'm about to create a thread to grants all Bleach Characters that use Reiatsu combat-applicably can powernull abilities through it.He doesn't have power null listed and there's layers on top of it for Er Gen as well.
Mage's powernull only go up to 1-A+ correct? that's what i've been told and seen through multiple threads with The Mage.Wouldn't it? What would stop it being nullified by the Mages, they have the potency for it.
Yes? it bends the Narrative which is a baseline High 1-A structure? The powernull could be passive it wouldn't matter since it can't powernull High 1-A stuff (That i know of).High 1-A? Even then it is passive it would prevent it power null if it isn’t also passive.
I mean, if it isn't in Bleach's case then Er Gen should take it.They've been mostly discarded but not completely discarded so i was wrong.
It isn't in Bleach's case but how would that even work? like in Bleach's and Ergen's cases they both have layers but one states that the amount of Souls is what grants that potency to bypass those layers while one doesn't. Would Ergen's just be inherently higher or would Bleach need to have higher layers to bypass those stated numbers?
Indeed it is.
There's a scan let me grab it.
He should and i'm about to create a thread to grants all Bleach Characters that use Reiatsu combat-applicably can powernull abilities through it.
Then he should take the spot then.
Broken ass verse.
Not for over a year (I think, what is time?). Not since the big changes.Mage's powernull only go up to 1-A+ correct? that's what i've been told and seen through multiple threads with The Mage.
Alright what characters are being nominated? is it only Wang and Song? or are there others?I mean, if it isn't in Bleach's case then Er Gen should take it.
Whether a power can overcome a resistance against it based on certain feats has to be determined by comparing the various factors at play. For example, a resistance can be overcome by Mind Manipulation with higher potency in any factor, if the resistance is equal, less or unknown in all other factors.
From the hax page.
Indeed it is.
Is there a thread that states this or something? it would greatly help my decision regarding these placements.Not for over a year (I think, what is time?). Not since the big changes.
The Mage's Quiet (that's the Disbelief abilities) scale to the Tellurian, which is very high into High 1-A at the moment, not 1-A+.
Is there a thread that states this or something? it would greatly help my decision regarding these placements.
Orcus is not a god in this key, so his hax cap 2-A.Wouldn't he share the spot with Venca? Given i believe both characters have 1-A hax's via being both considered as "Gods"?
He'll share the spot with Dr. Gerald.
Thanks for the thread but it doesn't really answer my original question. How does Mage's disbelief scale to the Tellurian in anyway? (Also sorry for taking long to respond, had IRL stuff to deal with)
Alright then he'll take Cat Lord's position until future threads are made to move up his placement.Orcus is not a god in this key, so his hax cap 2-A.
Shouldn't he share the placement Venca (And every other God) Then?Cat lord is a god
They’ve always scaled to the Tellurian, Marauders are described as the “Non-existent clap which shakes all creation”.Thanks for the thread but it doesn't really answer my original question. How does Mage's disbelief scale to the Tellurian in anyway? (Also sorry for taking long to respond, had IRL stuff to deal with)
Orcus is a God in all his keys. It’s just that some of his keys are his aspects/avatars.Orcus is not a god in this key, so his hax cap 2-A.
Oh is that so? my mistake then.Orcus is a God in all his keys. It’s just that some of his keys are his aspects/avatars.
no vecna is strongerThis DND/WOD shit is so ******* confusing for someone who doesn't know either of them.
Then Mage will get the 1st spot's of 10-B, 10-A and 9-A given Udlmaster's reasoning.
Should Orcus take the same spot as Venca via being a god? and such can use 1-A shit which is Venca's Main (I presume) Win-Con?
IIRC, His goal isn't to be a God, it's to be THE God. Demon Lords are equals with Lesser Gods, so he's always there.Can we get a source for orcus always being a god isn't that one of his main goals.
While equal, that doesn't mean they have the same things as gods. Or at least, I don't remember a source that suggests demon lords have access to every spell in the same way Gods have.IIRC, His goal isn't to be a God, it's to be THE God. Demon Lords are equals with Lesser Gods, so he's always there.