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Top 10 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Continuation

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Bobsican said:
...It also requires more than range to also fall as smurf potency, so merely mind haxing a 1-A doesn't give the mind hax 1-A potency too, inherently speaking.
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No idea what you're talking about, but as further support the battle took place across the "Infinite Planes of Reality", so minimum it's High 1-B.
 
Bobsican said:
Certain hax revisions making it so smurf hax doesn't inherently has smurf potency too, as an ability can also be "smurf" only in range, which is the default.
Mind hax is even brought up as an example of that just requiring smurf range by default, rather than potency too.
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I'm going to have to look more into this, but the mind battle took place across the infinite planes of reality, so that's minimum High 1-B range.

There's also Scarlet Witch mind-battling the Serpent Crown across endless dimensions (the universe kind), so 2-A mind hax range.

Sorry if I was too defensive earlier.
 
Bobsican said:
If the character that sees them as fiction is considered qualitatively superior, yeah.
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So stuff that affects a higher-dimensional being is still smurf hax, correct?

Like Doctor Strange mind-haxxing Umar, who is higher-dimensional (albeit we Marvel bois are still trying to figure out the exact dimensionality).
 
Depends on how you define smurf hax.

Both characters with qualitatively superior range, and characters with qualitatively superior potency fill the definition, and having one does not mean having the other too.
 
Bobsican said:
Depends on how you define smurf hax.

Both characters with qualitatively superior range, and characters with qualitatively superior potency fill the definition, and having one does not mean having the other too.
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Fair, I guess.

Marvel mind-hax is more QS potency focused than QS range focused from what I can tell, asides from the 2 feats I posted above.
 
Bobsican said:
You'd have to justify the potency nowadays, what I've seen so far is just range.
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Well, Strange mind-haxxed a higher-dimensional Umar (how much higher-dimensional we don't know yet since she scales to 1 dimension above the Dark Dimension, so it's likely somewhere in the Low 1-C range).

And people in Marvel have mentally resisted and fought the Mind-Stone, which was stated to be capable of mind-haxxing the Low 1-A Death (who is Low 1-A in "dimensionality").

Plus there's the whole Xavier mind-fighting the Phoenix Force, which asides from the battle having High 1-B range, the Phoenix Force is IIRC Low 1-A in its physical nature/"dimensionality".

I use quotes for dimensionality since Low 1-A is basically being above any dimensionality.
 
Again, merely affecting a tier 1 (sized) character doesn't inherently requires smurf potency, so it'd only be range.
 
Depends on how they're tier 1 to begin with, potency is only inherently included by default in cases of tier 1 by reality to fiction stuff IIRC.
 
Bobsican said:
Depends on how they're tier 1 to begin with, potency is only inherently included by default in cases of tier 1 by reality to fiction stuff IIRC.
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This page explains how the Marvel Abstracts are Low 1-A in nature.

TL;DR, they transcend Infinite-Dimensional areas (High 1-B) in nature, and the page explains the nature of Higher Dimensions viewing Lower Dimensions as fiction within Marvel.

In Marvel, Higher Dimensional Beings view lower dimensional ones as fiction, a "painting on the wall".
 
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Beats me. A ton of update requests have been here for weeks but the creator of the thread never updated it. Or maybe High 5-A Anos has something that puts him above Kang Han Soo
 
Spilxson2 said:
Beats me. A ton of update requests have been here for weeks but the creator of the thread never updated it. Or maybe High 5-A Anos has something that puts him above Kang Han Soo
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Well, since this is strongest character list, easily Venuzdonoa in hand, I don't see how Kang can resist it as it is the primary Anos wincon up to volume 4 part 2 as in V5 we already have portable Venuzdonoa in Anos' eyes.

I can update the list if you can tell me which are the request.
 
Dereck03 said:
I can update the list if you can tell me which are the request.
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Spilxson2 said:
Neverwere for 1st place in 5-B. Has Plot Manipulation that can affect stories and information contained in the Wanderer's Library (High 1-A plot hax)
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Eseseso said:
1. Doctor Strange should not be in 5-A, his durability is only 8-C.

2. Sonic characters should be removed from Low 4-C, as all of their bases are Low 2-C now.
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Eseseso said:
Charles Xavier should get a spot on the 10-A list, he has Low 1-A mind hax.
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Eseseso said:
Speaking of the 1-A list, Marvel Comics has some 1-A people (The Living Tribunal's first 2 keys, the 2nd Key of all the Universal Abstracts), so Marvel Comics should have a spot in 1-A too.
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Eseseso said:
Doctor Strange from Marvel Comics should get a placeholder spot in Varies, his AP goes up to Low 1-A, he has tier 1 mindhax and some other good hax like I mentioned before for him.


1. Tier 1 mindhax and mindhax resistance
2. 3-C Forcefield durability
3. Can BFR people to other dimensions and different planes of reality.
4. Eye of Agamotto has insane power null via swallowing enemy magic, and Stramge has other power null of his own (like nulling an enemy's temporal anomaly)
5. Illusions that fool tier 1 people like Arioch
6. Can send someone's astral form (aka their mind and soul) back in time.
7. High-End Low-Godly regen (His body was scattered across multiple dimensions and he had little trouble regenerating his body)
8. According to his profile, created a "null space" which ran parallel to space-time itself, where constants such as space, direction and dimensionality where under his full control.
9. Resisted someone trying to make him 2-D
10. Also resists time manipulation, Void Manipulation/EE, Low 1-A Madness Manipulation, Transmutation, Death Manipulation, Tier 1 Illusion & Fear Manipulation, and Tier 1 Sealing
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Okay, before updating the list, are those request valid? I don't want to check to see if they are or not.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy for the empty spots in High 5-A and 4-A.

For High 5-A, it should mainly be Matt and Natalie as both of them possess passive Fate Manipulation, Plot Manipulation, and Immortality Type 8 from the 6-D Player controlling their fates to make them succeed in their journey, and should they die, the player would simply redo the battle from the start and keep doing these battles until they finally win (Albeit they can't reset if they are KO'd).

As for 4-A, literally the entire party (Matt, Natalie, Lance, Anna, and NoLegs) has the aforementioned 6-D Fate/Plot/Immortality Type 8 abilities along with much more abilities for the player to use for more options on winning fights, not to mention Akron and Godcat possessing passive Black Holes and Madness Type 3 as well as thought-based double layered Power Nullification/Soul Absorption/Paralysis Inducement/Power Absorption.
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Don't forget this
 
Dereck03 said:
Well, since this is strongest character list, easily Venuzdonoa in hand, I don't see how Kang can resist it as it is the primary Anos wincon up to volume 4 part 2 as in V5 we already have portable Venuzdonoa in Anos' eyes.

I can update the list if you can tell me which are the request.
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Spilxson2 said:
Ben Tennyson for 5th place in 7-A (Has a Low 1-C transformation)
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Spilxson2 said:
Spongebob Squarepants and Mario for 3-C. Don't know about their places, but I think both of them could go above Waluigi
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Spongebob's spot needs to just be replaced with characters from Spongebob Squarepants since they all have a ton of plot hax. Also Bugs' spot in High 3-A needs to be replaced with characters from Looney Tunes
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Po (Paws of Destiny) for 10th or 9th place in 6-B
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Spilxson2 said:
Timmy Turner for a place in 8-B. Has 3-A Wish Magic with Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, Logic Manipulation and a ton of other hax
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Spilxson2 said:
Enlil's page was apparently deleted so 6th place in Varies is open
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One more thing. Sonic the Hedgehog needs to be removed from 4-C. A calculation that was accepted months go made him High 4-C but it just wasn't applied to his profile
 
Spilxson2 said:
Spongebob's spot needs to just be replaced with characters from Spongebob Squarepants since they all have a ton of plot hax. Also Bugs' spot in High 3-A needs to be replaced with characters from Looney Tunes
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Spilxson2 said:
One more thing. Sonic the Hedgehog needs to be removed from 4-C. A calculation that was accepted months go made him High 4-C but it just wasn't applied to his profile
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Done.
 
I've updated the list.

Spilxson2 said:
Beats me. A ton of update requests have been here for weeks but the creator of the thread never updated it. Or maybe High 5-A Anos has something that puts him above Kang Han Soo
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I'm allowing all the requests to come through and adding them in one big swoop, hence why I sometimes don't update the list for semi-long periods of time.

Dereck03 said:
Well, since this is strongest character list, easily Venuzdonoa in hand, I don't see how Kang can resist it as it is the primary Anos wincon up to volume 4 part 2 as in V5 we already have portable Venuzdonoa in Anos' eyes.
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I would advise you to make the match up, if Anos wins he gets the higher placement, if he doesn't Kang gets the higher placement. It would fix this conundrum we're dealing with right now.
 
Should Woody Woodpecker be higher in 4-C if he has passive plot manipulation? I'm seeing 2-C characters and stuff but Plot Manipulation might just say "screw you" to all of that
 
Galactus should take Sentry's spot in High 3-A.

  • Acausality Types 1 & 4
  • Layered Low 1-A mindhax/resistance to mindhax (Low 1-A Phoenix ~= Xavier << Galactus's resistance to mind hax = Odin's mind-hax potency = Galactus's mind-hax potency)
  • Immortality Types 1, 2, 3, and 5.
  • Low 1-A absorption, but with Cosmic Devouring his absorption goes up to High 1-A.
  • Has the HIGH 1-A Ultimate Nullifier as Standard Equipment
  • Nonduality (Nature 1, Aspect 2)
  • Invulnerability Negation
  • Low-Godly Regeneration
  • Operates on multiple planes of existence simultaneously.
  • All the P&A of Silver Surfer on a far higher scale.
  • NPI that lets him affect someone who has NEP (Nature Types 2 and 3, Aspect Types 1, 2 and 3) and Nonduality (Nature 1, Aspect 2)
  • Reality Warping that is thought-based.
  • Resistance to Low 1-A soul hax.
  • Incorporeality
I might throw High 3-A Galactus against Planeswalker in the future.
 
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