Top 10 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Continuation

[Eseseso]

...It also requires more than range to also fall as smurf potency, so merely mind haxing a 1-A doesn't give the mind hax 1-A potency too, inherently speaking.

No idea what you're talking about, but as further support the battle took place across the "Infinite Planes of Reality", so minimum it's High 1-B.

 

[Bobsican]

Certain hax revisions making it so smurf hax doesn't inherently has smurf potency too, as an ability can also be "smurf" only in range, which is the default.
Mind hax is even brought up as an example of that just requiring smurf range by default, rather than potency too.

 

[ShionAH]

Certain hax revisions making it so smurf hax doesn't inherently has smurf potency too, as an ability can also be "smurf" only in range, which is the default.
Mind hax is even brought up as an example of that just requiring smurf range by default, rather than potency too.

"soul hax which can affect a character that sees them as mere fiction."

Is this 5D soul hax then?

 

[Eseseso]

Certain hax revisions making it so smurf hax doesn't inherently has smurf potency too, as an ability can also be "smurf" only in range, which is the default.
Mind hax is even brought up as an example of that just requiring smurf range by default, rather than potency too.

I'm going to have to look more into this, but the mind battle took place across the infinite planes of reality, so that's minimum High 1-B range.

There's also Scarlet Witch mind-battling the Serpent Crown across endless dimensions (the universe kind), so 2-A mind hax range.

Sorry if I was too defensive earlier.

 

[Bobsican]

"soul hax which can affect a character that sees them as mere fiction."

Is this 5D soul hax then?

If the character that sees them as fiction is considered qualitatively superior, yeah.

 

[Eseseso]

If the character that sees them as fiction is considered qualitatively superior, yeah.

So stuff that affects a higher-dimensional being is still smurf hax, correct?

Like Doctor Strange mind-haxxing Umar, who is higher-dimensional (albeit we Marvel bois are still trying to figure out the exact dimensionality).

 

[Bobsican]

Depends on how you define smurf hax.

Both characters with qualitatively superior range, and characters with qualitatively superior potency fill the definition, and having one does not mean having the other too.

 

[Eseseso]

Depends on how you define smurf hax.

Both characters with qualitatively superior range, and characters with qualitatively superior potency fill the definition, and having one does not mean having the other too.

Fair, I guess.

Marvel mind-hax is more QS potency focused than QS range focused from what I can tell, asides from the 2 feats I posted above.

 

[Bobsican]

You'd have to justify the potency nowadays, what I've seen so far is just range.

 

[Eseseso]

You'd have to justify the potency nowadays, what I've seen so far is just range.

Well, Strange mind-haxxed a higher-dimensional Umar (how much higher-dimensional we don't know yet since she scales to 1 dimension above the Dark Dimension, so it's likely somewhere in the Low 1-C range).

And people in Marvel have mentally resisted and fought the Mind-Stone, which was stated to be capable of mind-haxxing the Low 1-A Death (who is Low 1-A in "dimensionality").

Plus there's the whole Xavier mind-fighting the Phoenix Force, which asides from the battle having High 1-B range, the Phoenix Force is IIRC Low 1-A in its physical nature/"dimensionality".

I use quotes for dimensionality since Low 1-A is basically being above any dimensionality.

 

[Bobsican]

Again, merely affecting a tier 1 (sized) character doesn't inherently requires smurf potency, so it'd only be range.

 

[Eseseso]

Again, merely affecting a tier 1 (sized) character doesn't inherently requires smurf potency.

If they're tier 1 in dimensionality it sure seems like it would count as potency.

Especially for those with BDE, like the Phoenix Force.

 

[Bobsican]

Depends on how they're tier 1 to begin with, potency is only inherently included by default in cases of tier 1 by reality to fiction stuff IIRC.

 

[Eseseso]

Depends on how they're tier 1 to begin with, potency is only inherently included by default in cases of tier 1 by reality to fiction stuff IIRC.

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This page explains how the Marvel Abstracts are Low 1-A in nature.

TL;DR, they transcend Infinite-Dimensional areas (High 1-B) in nature, and the page explains the nature of Higher Dimensions viewing Lower Dimensions as fiction within Marvel.

In Marvel, Higher Dimensional Beings view lower dimensional ones as fiction, a "painting on the wall".

 

[Bobsican]

Okay, I suppose.

 

[Spilxson2]

Neverwere for 1st place in 5-B. Has Plot Manipulation that can affect stories and information contained in the Wanderer's Library

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Neverwere for 1st place in 5-B. Has Plot Manipulation that can affect stories and information contained in the Wanderer's Library

he is not physically 5B

 

[Eseseso]

he is not physically 5B

His durability is 5-B, he's fine.

 

[Spilxson2]

he is not physically 5B

How not?

 

[Spilxson2]

Timmy Turner for 6th place in 8-A or a possible spot in 10-C. Has 3-A Wish Magic with Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, Logic Manipulation and a ton of other hax

Had to make a correction, Timmy is 8-B, not 8-A

 

[Dereck03]

Why is Kang Han Soo above Anos in 6-C but below him in High 5-A?

 

[Spilxson2]

Beats me. A ton of update requests have been here for weeks but the creator of the thread never updated it. Or maybe High 5-A Anos has something that puts him above Kang Han Soo

 

[Dereck03]

Beats me. A ton of update requests have been here for weeks but the creator of the thread never updated it. Or maybe High 5-A Anos has something that puts him above Kang Han Soo

Well, since this is strongest character list, easily Venuzdonoa in hand, I don't see how Kang can resist it as it is the primary Anos wincon up to volume 4 part 2 as in V5 we already have portable Venuzdonoa in Anos' eyes.

I can update the list if you can tell me which are the request.

 

[Eseseso]

I can update the list if you can tell me which are the request.

Neverwere for 1st place in 5-B. Has Plot Manipulation that can affect stories and information contained in the Wanderer's Library (High 1-A plot hax)

1. Doctor Strange should not be in 5-A, his durability is only 8-C.

2. Sonic characters should be removed from Low 4-C, as all of their bases are Low 2-C now.

Charles Xavier should get a spot on the 10-A list, he has Low 1-A mind hax.

Speaking of the 1-A list, Marvel Comics has some 1-A people (The Living Tribunal's first 2 keys, the 2nd Key of all the Universal Abstracts), so Marvel Comics should have a spot in 1-A too.

Doctor Strange from Marvel Comics should get a placeholder spot in Varies, his AP goes up to Low 1-A, he has tier 1 mindhax and some other good hax like I mentioned before for him.


1. Tier 1 mindhax and mindhax resistance
2. 3-C Forcefield durability
3. Can BFR people to other dimensions and different planes of reality.
4. Eye of Agamotto has insane power null via swallowing enemy magic, and Stramge has other power null of his own (like nulling an enemy's temporal anomaly)
5. Illusions that fool tier 1 people like Arioch
6. Can send someone's astral form (aka their mind and soul) back in time.
7. High-End Low-Godly regen (His body was scattered across multiple dimensions and he had little trouble regenerating his body)
8. According to his profile, created a "null space" which ran parallel to space-time itself, where constants such as space, direction and dimensionality where under his full control.
9. Resisted someone trying to make him 2-D
10. Also resists time manipulation, Void Manipulation/EE, Low 1-A Madness Manipulation, Transmutation, Death Manipulation, Tier 1 Illusion & Fear Manipulation, and Tier 1 Sealing

 

[Dereck03]

Okay, before updating the list, are those request valid? I don't want to check to see if they are or not.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy for the empty spots in High 5-A and 4-A.

For High 5-A, it should mainly be Matt and Natalie as both of them possess passive Fate Manipulation, Plot Manipulation, and Immortality Type 8 from the 6-D Player controlling their fates to make them succeed in their journey, and should they die, the player would simply redo the battle from the start and keep doing these battles until they finally win (Albeit they can't reset if they are KO'd).

As for 4-A, literally the entire party (Matt, Natalie, Lance, Anna, and NoLegs) has the aforementioned 6-D Fate/Plot/Immortality Type 8 abilities along with much more abilities for the player to use for more options on winning fights, not to mention Akron and Godcat possessing passive Black Holes and Madness Type 3 as well as thought-based double layered Power Nullification/Soul Absorption/Paralysis Inducement/Power Absorption.

Don't forget this

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Okay, before updating the list, are those request valid? I don't want to check to see if they are or not.

neverwhere doesn`t qualify for the list. He isn`t physically 5B

 

[Dereck03]

Don't forget this

Done this.

neverwhere doesn`t qualify for the list. He isn`t physically 5B

So besides Neverwhere, the rest is fine to add?

 

[Spilxson2]

Well, since this is strongest character list, easily Venuzdonoa in hand, I don't see how Kang can resist it as it is the primary Anos wincon up to volume 4 part 2 as in V5 we already have portable Venuzdonoa in Anos' eyes.

I can update the list if you can tell me which are the request.

Ben Tennyson for 5th place in 7-A (Has a Low 1-C transformation)

Spongebob Squarepants and Mario for 3-C. Don't know about their places, but I think both of them could go above Waluigi

Spongebob's spot needs to just be replaced with characters from Spongebob Squarepants since they all have a ton of plot hax. Also Bugs' spot in High 3-A needs to be replaced with characters from Looney Tunes

Po (Paws of Destiny) for 10th or 9th place in 6-B

Timmy Turner for a place in 8-B. Has 3-A Wish Magic with Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, Logic Manipulation and a ton of other hax

Enlil's page was apparently deleted so 6th place in Varies is open

 

[Spilxson2]

One more thing. Sonic the Hedgehog needs to be removed from 4-C. A calculation that was accepted months go made him High 4-C but it just wasn't applied to his profile

 

[Dereck03]

Spongebob's spot needs to just be replaced with characters from Spongebob Squarepants since they all have a ton of plot hax. Also Bugs' spot in High 3-A needs to be replaced with characters from Looney Tunes

One more thing. Sonic the Hedgehog needs to be removed from 4-C. A calculation that was accepted months go made him High 4-C but it just wasn't applied to his profile

Done.

 

[Eseseso]

Done this.

So besides Neverwhere,

neverwhere doesn`t qualify for the list. He isn`t physically 5B

Not sure how since he has 5-B durability

the rest is fine to add?

Seem fine to me.

Also don't forget the other stuff @Spilxson2 mentioned above.

 

[Deceived3596]

I've updated the list.

Beats me. A ton of update requests have been here for weeks but the creator of the thread never updated it. Or maybe High 5-A Anos has something that puts him above Kang Han Soo

I'm allowing all the requests to come through and adding them in one big swoop, hence why I sometimes don't update the list for semi-long periods of time.

Well, since this is strongest character list, easily Venuzdonoa in hand, I don't see how Kang can resist it as it is the primary Anos wincon up to volume 4 part 2 as in V5 we already have portable Venuzdonoa in Anos' eyes.

I would advise you to make the match up, if Anos wins he gets the higher placement, if he doesn't Kang gets the higher placement. It would fix this conundrum we're dealing with right now.

 

[Orioreeem]

Anos won against Du Tian and yet he still is below him.

 

[Spilxson2]

Done.

I've updated the list.

Thanks

 

[RoTt35]

The MCU's 7-B characters were upgraded to 7-A so they should be in a free slot of that tier

 

[Eseseso]

Btw, Cegorach should be removed from 1-B, @AbaddonTheDisappointment said his page was severely outdated.

 

[Spilxson2]

Should Woody Woodpecker be higher in 4-C if he has passive plot manipulation? I'm seeing 2-C characters and stuff but Plot Manipulation might just say "screw you" to all of that

 

[Eseseso]

Galactus should take Sentry's spot in High 3-A.

• Acausality Types 1 & 4
• Layered Low 1-A mindhax/resistance to mindhax (Low 1-A Phoenix ~= Xavier << Galactus's resistance to mind hax = Odin's mind-hax potency = Galactus's mind-hax potency)
• Immortality Types 1, 2, 3, and 5.
• Low 1-A absorption, but with Cosmic Devouring his absorption goes up to High 1-A.
• Has the HIGH 1-A Ultimate Nullifier as Standard Equipment
• Nonduality (Nature 1, Aspect 2)
• Invulnerability Negation
• Low-Godly Regeneration
• Operates on multiple planes of existence simultaneously.
• All the P&A of Silver Surfer on a far higher scale.
• NPI that lets him affect someone who has NEP (Nature Types 2 and 3, Aspect Types 1, 2 and 3) and Nonduality (Nature 1, Aspect 2)
• Reality Warping that is thought-based.
• Resistance to Low 1-A soul hax.
• Incorporeality

I might throw High 3-A Galactus against Planeswalker in the future.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Galactus should take Sentry's spot in High 3-A.

Likely Character from Marvel Comics (Mainly Sentry and Galactus) look better