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Top 10 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Continuation

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Bobsican said:
For the sake of NLFs at best RE is limited to powers that already exist within the given verse, so... TBH I'd lean against that working on Corruption here out of that (unless there's more to argue on that regard?), as much as we don't give every power/ability on the site to a character that's "intended" to be omnipotent and whatever.
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RE is now entirely cosmetic and serves 0 purpose on a profile
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nice one
 
Planck69 said:
Agreed, this is silly as all hell.

Like, I somewhat get not assuming RE covering idk, Fate Manipulation when it's best feat is evolving past electrocution or smth but this is just dumb.
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Yep, this new stardard really be built like
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Planck69 said:
Agreed, this is silly as all hell.

Like, I somewhat get not assuming RE covering idk, Fate Manipulation when it's best feat is evolving past electrocution or smth but this is just dumb.
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What if the RE has feats of covering some of the most OP hax out there like CM 1?
 
Bobsican said:
For the sake of NLFs at best RE is limited to powers that already exist within the given verse, so... TBH I'd lean against that working on Corruption here out of that (unless there's more to argue on that regard?), as much as we don't give every power/ability on the site to a character that's "intended" to be omnipotent and whatever.
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sounds dumb
 
Planck69 said:
By all logic, it should cover lesser abilities but site standards are dumb as usual.
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Hard disagreement. This reasoning is what causes most of the NLF mentality regarding RE.
Soul Manipulation or Mind Manipulation are regarded as "lesser abilities" compared to Conceptual Manipulation Type 1, but if a character evolve to gain a resistence to CM 1 doesn't mean they would be able to do the same to Soul or Mind Manipulation, if the setting of the verse doesn't include anything of that sort or if the character itself never adapted to fight against something similiar to that.
As another example, if a character that uses RE is able to gain a resistence against Probablity Manipulation doesn't mean that the same character can gain a resistence against Fate Manipulation. Their effects are similiar, but how this powers operate are not the same at all.
Everything regarding RE operate by case by case scenarios, because otherwise there would be many NLF reasonings, with characters being able to adapt to any ability in existance because they can adapt against the ones that are considered the "strongest ones".

I didn't follow the argument for the fight itself, but if the Corruption operates affecting the soul and mind of the target like I think, than it would depend. If the opposing character with RE never adapted against abilities that target the soul and the mind, than there is no reason to assume he would be able to adapt to that. If instead he did adapt against abilities that target the soul and the mind of the opponent, or maybe abilities like that exists and are part of the settings, than they would probably be able to adapt to that.
 
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Except if you are this guy
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Lu Zhiyu (Low Dimensional Game)

Lu Zhiyu is the Main Character of Low Dimensional Game was born in Jiangcheng, with his family long gone he lived a secluded life drifting apart and losing touch with most of his friends. Having been diagnosed with cancer he felt everything was pointless and felt no sadness that his life was...
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His RE is based on a bigger concept that governs all concepts, power, and creation on an Outversal scale. Here is the concept...
Source Form; Source Form is the existence of a concept, it exists within the Zero-Dimensional Aboriginal Space and is the source of everything. Whether it be the various forms of power stretching from Magic to simple Supernatural Powers all of it is fundamentally Source Form. And even beyond that, things like matter are made up of Source Form. Truly it is the fundamental nature of all things as even laws, space, time and concepts when destroyed become Source Form.

Information; Everything has information, whether it be your bed, the air or even a particle, as such everything can be viewed as information on the informational level and that extends to all of reality. The Zero-Dimensional Aboriginal Space holds the information of everything yet only conceptual things like consciousness are made purely of information. Besides Source Form itself information can be considered the most fundamental level of all things, and even reality and unreality are affected by it's manipulation.

Mind Power; Mind Power originates from a nameless spot, in the cells of a special organ in one's mind. As one absorbs Source Form in one way or another your SFU (Source Form Units) increase and so does your Mind Power alongside it. It is from Mind Power that one's abilities manifest, whether that be detecting higher dimensional things to even interfering with reality. Even one's resistances are dependent on how powerful they are through this system.
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His RE and another that share the same verse have RE based on this Outversal concept.
Source Form is the conceptual source of all power, whether it be Mana and Magic, Wizardry and Sorcery, Cultivation and Qi, Supernatural Powers or even abilities used by demons and devils, all of it originates from Source Form. The ejection of Source Form from the Space-Time Origin is what keeps every universe from collapsing and being reduced to nothingness. Everything whether it be Matter, Space or even the abstract concept of time, absolutely everything in fundamentally made of Source Form. Being the source of all power and all for all the infinite outer dimensions while also keeping multiples of endless universes from collapsing into nothingness would make Source Form Infinitely Low 1-A.
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So yeah... This is the perfect RE I can think of.
 
Well, we have to be careful on what "all X" extends to (as this is a blatant NLF if taken too literally), per standards it'd still be limited to what actually is showcased to exist in the verse at that scale, mind you, per the details given it's still really potent, but it probably doesn't cover every single ability ever that's below 1-A.

But yeah, 682 has the actual feats (leaving smurfness at a side) to RE on quite a ton of things.
 
Bobsican said:
Well, we have to be careful on what "all X" extends to (as this is a blatant NLF if taken too literally), per standards it'd still be limited to what actually is showcased to exist in the verse at that scale, mind you, per the details given it's still really potent, but it probably doesn't cover every single ability ever that's below 1-A.

But yeah, 682 has the actual feats (leaving smurfness at a side) to RE on quite a ton of things.
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Bruh, look at his verse abilities.
What I mean everything is literally "everything".
Lu Zhiyu has 76691 characters in his profile alone, imagine his verse abilities.
 
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Rakih_Elyan said:
Bruh, look at his verse abilities.
What I mean everything is literally "everything".
Lu Zhiyu has 76691 characters in his profile alone, imagine his verse abilities.
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Even the third novel hasn't been translated yet, and this is all of his hax by just two novels.
 
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Bobsican said:
It seems Xue Ying caps at 5-D hax in 2-B, so I'll ask for Sora to be moved to the 3rd spot
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Planck69 said:
Can you actually explain his 6-D stuff beyond "Well, it's 6-D".
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Bobsican said:
He has passive fate manip that prevents permanent death or incap, Low 1-C summons, Low 1-C stat amp and Low 1-C durability with certain abilities.
Also Type 8 Immortality on an High-Godly scale.
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Planck69 said:
Ignoring how silly this sounds, I guess he can move on.
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As a reminder, Sora should be moved to the 3rd spot in 2-B
 
I've been pre-occupied with multiple wiki and irl issues, but most of them have been dealt with, will add the new changes here shortly.
 
I've finally added what i believe is the missing changes, if I've missed any then tell me so i can rectify that problem.

Abu2411 said:
Along with Megami Tensei for 8-B, High 6-A, Low 2-C and Low 1-C (For 1-A passive mind/soul/concept/information hax) I think Kratos might be able to take a spot for 6-A and 2-C.
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What positions exactly?
 
Deceived3596 said:
I've finally added what i believe is the missing changes, if I've missed any then tell me so i can rectify that problem.


What positions exactly?
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Not too familiar with the capabilities of other characters on the list but they should at least be above any non-smurfs there (Saint Seiya for example).

Also for High 6-A you could just put "Characters from Megami Tensei" since Nanashi, Nanashi's friends and Aleph have High 6-A keys.
 
682 should now get the #1 spot in 9-B as well because he now has a 9-B EC key

Oryx should get a spot in Low 1-C, probably #7. He has Low 1-A hax he just takes Anos
 
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