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They also have passive probability hax and a passive aura that can destroy the whole existence.
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Top 10 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Continuation
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Vondoom
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Can I see scans of these passive haxes?
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Bruh, does it change anything? Anyway, i will try to get it.
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“But, High Priest,” cut in a girl’s voice that sounded even younger and also childish. “Miss Zombie’s theory is essentially the same as holding up opposing mirrors, right? By splitting up our power infinitely, we can intentionally weaken ourselves and avoid destroying the world whenever we move an arm or leg.”
“What about it, Niang-Niang?”
“I’m just wondering if the symbol ∞ will really grow weaker when you split it up. I don’t want to smash the world up like stained glass the first step I take. We’re not like Othinus.”
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Just taking a step inside the world would destroy it, as their power is too big to exist inside of it (which is why they live inside a non-existent realm normally).
As for the probability hax:
Magic God Othinus had obtained frightening power, but that power was too powerful. She could not fully control it herself. Having infinite possibilities sounded good, but it meant she had all positive possibilities and all negative possibilities. In this state, it was impossible to predict whether she would win or lose a game of rock paper scissors with a child.
No matter what she did, the odds of success and failure were always half and half.
To solve that dilemma, she had to twist those even odds to one extreme. To do that, she needed a single lance:
Gungnir.
Once Othinus obtained that, the world would literally come to an end. There would be no way of reversing the situation. A single human will would bring about a world where the infinite reaches of history would be eternally under a tyrannical rule.
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Othinus with Gungnir and other MGs like Chimera don't have the 50/50 weakness, only the best outcomes exist to them.
“What about it, Niang-Niang?”
“I’m just wondering if the symbol ∞ will really grow weaker when you split it up. I don’t want to smash the world up like stained glass the first step I take. We’re not like Othinus.”
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Just taking a step inside the world would destroy it, as their power is too big to exist inside of it (which is why they live inside a non-existent realm normally).
As for the probability hax:
Magic God Othinus had obtained frightening power, but that power was too powerful. She could not fully control it herself. Having infinite possibilities sounded good, but it meant she had all positive possibilities and all negative possibilities. In this state, it was impossible to predict whether she would win or lose a game of rock paper scissors with a child.
No matter what she did, the odds of success and failure were always half and half.
To solve that dilemma, she had to twist those even odds to one extreme. To do that, she needed a single lance:
Gungnir.
Once Othinus obtained that, the world would literally come to an end. There would be no way of reversing the situation. A single human will would bring about a world where the infinite reaches of history would be eternally under a tyrannical rule.
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Othinus with Gungnir and other MGs like Chimera don't have the 50/50 weakness, only the best outcomes exist to them.
Vondoom
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I don't understand what this is trying to prove what passive hax are you arguing about here and what's the source of this?
This isn't a passive hax
I don't see that statement in what you said above and it didn't even mention chimera had such an hax or how she used it in battle.
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That's their passive aura, Toaru New Testament 12, the other is from NT8
It's literally her state of being.
Literally stated she would turn the odds from 50/50 win/loss into one extreme, which is what Gungnir does, it changes her infinite possibilities from a 50% to a 100%.
It is literally the power you get for being a MG, it's pretty written at the start of the second quote and Othinus is the weakest of them.
Vondoom
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I don't see anything about passive aura and what does it do? Are the passives 11-D?
I don't see that anywhere about chimera except a character who needs Gungnir to use such ability and its 50/50 plus is it an 11-D hax?
Since she dosen't have Higher dimensional existence I refuse to believe all her abilities are on 11-D
I didn't see it in what you said.
Anyways I will settle for Mister myxptlk having 3rd spot shared with Gurren Lagann characters but with Speed unequal. @Deceived3596
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I'll add the changes later.
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you don't need HDE for your hax to be 11-D.
It is very much accepted as 11-D. saying they are not 11-D is like saying Accelerator doesn't have 11-D vector shield at this point and this is very much in profile for other characters in their verse
Vondoom
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I know but HDE on 11-D scale makes your hax so but simply having High 1-C key dosen't make all your hax High 1-C
Can I see where its accepted all her hax are 11-D? That's false equivalence with the Accelerator example
He can have High 1-C abilities it dosen't mean all his abilities are.
I care no longer on this since I'd just accept the 3rd spot for speed unequalized.
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Because their ability is being able to manipulate everything in the world and the world as a whole and what makes it up scales up to 11D including Accelerators Vectors?
like just read phase manipulation all the abilities they have are mostly based on that
Vondoom
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Why do you keep mentioning this?
You're trying to tell me all their abilities can affect their 11-D world?
This dosen't make all abilities in the Verse 11-D bro
just Reality warping.
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Yes, all their abilities are a byproduct of Phase Manipulation, which they get from their Infinite Possibilities.
The only ability that isn't from that is the "aura" which is just their power leaking from their body and which can destroy the whole World (which is 11D).
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And their abilities are basically results of reality warping.bro just read the possible applications of reality warping as ability. I know you're new but you can't just disagree with accepted profiles just because you're not knowledgable of their franchiseYou're trying to tell me all their abilities can affect their 11-D world?
This dosen't make all abilities in the Verse 11-D bro
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It is literally on the profile, shut.
Immeasurable speed does not stop you from seeing someone, that is not how sight works
Vondoom
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I've conceded to others point above and I don't really care anymore and yes immeasurable speed outpaces passives accepted on the wiki.
What do you mean by seeing someone?
Besides Mister myxptlk stomps Gurren lagaan speed unequalized he can share the spot.
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Should we have a rematch now that Anos and 682 have been changed with having TD 3 for Anos and an absurd wall of resistances for 682?
Oliver_de_jesus
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It is not the same thing? like 682 just adapt and latter vore Anos
Kirinator07
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It doesn't have TD 3
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TBH does it really matter? Anos can't do shit about 6820 lol
Kirinator07
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But what could 6820 do about its shitty source, feel like it could be incon unless a matchup proves otherwise.
Vondoom
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Heard its now limited to dimensions
Kirinator07
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I mean its not the only thing that his Source has, heard about its Type 2 NEP, apparently even 1-A's can't affect him otherwise.
Kirinator07
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But Anos lacks plot as an aspect of his NEP so would it even work?
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Well Nonexistent Physiology is more, though you can't interact with the non-existent entity you can destroy the reality that serves as their foundation, destroying them as an chain reaction that doesn't requite interacting with their non-existence.
EldemadeDityjon
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Anos should be placed at second or 3rd Place for 5A. As for checked Kelly profile I don't see how Kelly can do anything to Anos unless he has outerversal haxes still the keys starts with 5A.
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EldemadeDityjon
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Shouldn't Physical attacks should work if Conceptual and Law Manipulation doesn't work against Kelly? Or I missing something. Her durability is still Planetary.
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682 doesn't need 6820 to destroy Anos. In fact, Anos can't get 682 to 6820 because he would have to destroy its concept in the Noosphere to awaken the extranoospheric concept that is 6820. And the concept is High 1-A mind you.
All Anos' sword will do to 682 is just make it Low 1-C or nonexistent, in which case he either lacks the AP to kill it or gets his source absorbed.
All Anos' sword will do to 682 is just make it Low 1-C or nonexistent, in which case he either lacks the AP to kill it or gets his source absorbed.
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Why hasn’t this gone top 10? The list is nearly maxed out and 5 seems too small of a number to list off the strongest for each tier
Oliver_de_jesus
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idk, but i have no problem with thatWhy hasn’t this gone top 10? The list is nearly maxed out and 5 seems too small of a number to list off the strongest for each tier
FoxySonicMaster108
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Top 10 would be cool, but the list would get a bit too long
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I’d argue 10 is the sweet spot for lists as it’s just enough space for some debating while not being too much to where it starts to muddy the spot a bit.
FoxySonicMaster108
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Fair enough (especially since there are a lot of other very powerful characters on the wiki)
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This was also commented before and various users (myself included) were in support of the idea, though at the end the talk died. I honestly think is quite a good idea and still support it.
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It has indeed been done.
FoxySonicMaster108
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Well, now it's a Top 10, I'm pretty sure John Egbert, Arale, and Arecus could get spots in 2-A
maybe Monika could get a spot in 10-B?
maybe Monika could get a spot in 10-B?
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