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They also have passive probability hax and a passive aura that can destroy the whole existence.I agree with that ability being passive no other ability on profile was indicated to be passive.
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They also have passive probability hax and a passive aura that can destroy the whole existence.I agree with that ability being passive no other ability on profile was indicated to be passive.
Can I see scans of these passive haxes?They also have passive probability hax and a passive aura that can destroy the whole existence.
Bruh, does it change anything? Anyway, i will try to get it.Can I see scans of these passive haxes?
I don't understand what this is trying to prove what passive hax are you arguing about here and what's the source of this?“But, High Priest,” cut in a girl’s voice that sounded even younger and also childish. “Miss Zombie’s theory is essentially the same as holding up opposing mirrors, right? By splitting up our power infinitely, we can intentionally weaken ourselves and avoid destroying the world whenever we move an arm or leg.”
“What about it, Niang-Niang?”
“I’m just wondering if the symbol ∞ will really grow weaker when you split it up. I don’t want to smash the world up like stained glass the first step I take. We’re not like Othinus.”
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Just taking a step inside the world would destroy it, as their power is too big to exist inside of it (which is why they live inside a non-existent realm normally).
This isn't a passive haxAs for the probability hax:
Magic God Othinus had obtained frightening power, but that power was too powerful. She could not fully control it herself. Having infinite possibilities sounded good, but it meant she had all positive possibilities and all negative possibilities. In this state, it was impossible to predict whether she would win or lose a game of rock paper scissors with a child.
No matter what she did, the odds of success and failure were always half and half.
To solve that dilemma, she had to twist those even odds to one extreme. To do that, she needed a single lance:
Gungnir.
Once Othinus obtained that, the world would literally come to an end. There would be no way of reversing the situation. A single human will would bring about a world where the infinite reaches of history would be eternally under a tyrannical rule.
I don't see that statement in what you said above and it didn't even mention chimera had such an hax or how she used it in battle.Othinus with Gungnir and other MGs like Chimera don't have the 50/50 weakness, only the best outcomes exist to them.
That's their passive aura, Toaru New Testament 12, the other is from NT8I don't understand what this is trying to prove what passive hax are you arguing about here and what's the source of this?
It's literally her state of being.This isn't a passive hax
Literally stated she would turn the odds from 50/50 win/loss into one extreme, which is what Gungnir does, it changes her infinite possibilities from a 50% to a 100%.I don't see that statement in what you said above and it didn't even mention chimera had such an hax or how she used it in battle.
I don't see anything about passive aura and what does it do? Are the passives 11-D?That's their passive aura, Toaru New Testament 12, the other is from NT8
I don't see that anywhere about chimera except a character who needs Gungnir to use such ability and its 50/50 plus is it an 11-D hax?It's literally her state of being.
I didn't see it in what you said.Literally stated she would turn the odds from 50/50 win/loss into one extreme, which is what Gungnir does, it changes her infinite possibilities from a 50% to a 100%.
you don't need HDE for your hax to be 11-D.I don't see anything about passive aura and what does it do? Are the passives 11-D?
I don't see that anywhere about chimera except a character who needs Gungnir to use such ability and its 50/50 plus is it an 11-D hax?
Since she dosen't have Higher dimensional existence I refuse to believe all her abilities are on 11-D
I know but HDE on 11-D scale makes your hax so but simply having High 1-C key dosen't make all your hax High 1-Cyou don't need HDE for your hax to be 11-D.
Can I see where its accepted all her hax are 11-D? That's false equivalence with the Accelerator exampleIt is very much accepted as 11-D. saying they are not 11-D is like saying Accelerator doesn't have 11-D vector shield at this point and this is very much in profile for other characters in their verse
Because their ability is being able to manipulate everything in the world and the world as a whole and what makes it up scales up to 11D including Accelerators Vectors?Can I see where its accepted all her hax are 11-D? That's false equivalence with the Accelerator example
He can have High 1-C abilities it dosen't mean all his abilities are.
Why do you keep mentioning this?Accelerators Vectors?
You're trying to tell me all their abilities can affect their 11-D world?Because their ability is being able to manipulate everything in the world and the world as a whole and what makes it up scales up to 11D including Accelerators Vectors?
like just read phase manipulation all the abilities they have are mostly based on that
This dosen't make all abilities in the Verse 11-D brojust Reality warping.Phase Manipulation: Magic Gods wield a powerful version of reality warping, granting them almost absolute power. All possibilities are open to them, to the point that even omnipotence paradoxes can apply to them. Magic Gods can instantly destroy the world and manipulate and recreate it as they please. They can manipulate causality, change the natural laws and control dimensions, space, time, matter, energy and all other contents of the world as they please. As they can control the world in these ways they should be able to wrestle around the control of the things they can manipulate. They achieve this due to their ability to freely create, destroy and manipulate the Phases that make up the world.
Yes, all their abilities are a byproduct of Phase Manipulation, which they get from their Infinite Possibilities.You're trying to tell me all their abilities can affect their 11-D world?
And their abilities are basically results of reality warping.bro just read the possible applications of reality warping as ability. I know you're new but you can't just disagree with accepted profiles just because you're not knowledgable of their franchiseYou're trying to tell me all their abilities can affect their 11-D world?
This dosen't make all abilities in the Verse 11-D brojust Reality warping.
It is literally on the profile, shut.What are the passives it's not on profile so I refuse to agree, immeasurable speed can still outpace it dosen't matter and Mister myxptlk can exist in every point in time,
I've conceded to others point above and I don't really care anymore and yes immeasurable speed outpaces passives accepted on the wiki.Immeasurable speed does not stop you from seeing someone, that is not how sight works
Should we have a rematch now that Anos and 682 have been changed with having TD 3 for Anos and an absurd wall of resistances for 682?
It is not the same thing? like 682 just adapt and latter vore AnosShould we have a rematch now that Anos and 682 have been changed with having TD 3 for Anos and an absurd wall of resistances for 682?
It doesn't have TD 3It is not the same thing? like 682 just adapt and latter vore Anos
TBH does it really matter? Anos can't do shit about 6820 lolIt doesn't have TD 3
But what could 6820 do about its shitty source, feel like it could be incon unless a matchup proves otherwise.TBH does it really matter? Anos can't do shit about 6820 lol
Heard its now limited to dimensions
I mean its not the only thing that his Source has, heard about its Type 2 NEP, apparently even 1-A's can't affect him otherwise.Heard its now limited to dimensions
But Anos lacks plot as an aspect of his NEP so would it even work?I heard TD,NEP and Acausality type 5 now all don't really matter against beings that see your realm as fiction, if they can affect your realm and you can't do anything it's your loss.
I mean its not the only thing that his Source has, heard about its Type 2 NEP, apparently even 1-A's can't affect him otherwise.
Well Nonexistent Physiology is more, though you can't interact with the non-existent entity you can destroy the reality that serves as their foundation, destroying them as an chain reaction that doesn't requite interacting with their non-existence.I heard TD,NEP and Acausality type 5 now all don't really matter against beings that see your realm as fiction, if they can affect your realm and you can't do anything it's your loss.
Kelly should take the Top Spot on Low 7-C for 8+ Layers of Low 1-A Resistances as well EE of Mind, Body, Soul, Concept, Information, etc, and the concept of all of those things. And the same Resistance Negation Lu Zhiyu has and the same abilities on a conceptual 8+ Low 1-A level plus a High 6-A Transformation that gives High-Godly Regen, Immortality (1,2,3,4,5,6 & 8) & Negation to all of those, and ridiculous Abstract Existence (Basically the closest you can get to NEP 2 without having NEP 2)
She should also take 3rd on 5-A for the same reasons above except this she also destroys the nothingness they become after she EE's their everything and the foundational concept of sed nothingness that is beyond normal abstract concepts. A few other things that are really just overkill.
Shouldn't Physical attacks should work if Conceptual and Law Manipulation doesn't work against Kelly? Or I missing something. Her durability is still Planetary.Durability: At least Small Town level, likely higher with Mind Power Shields (Could survive clashing with Verthandi threatened to erase an entire city from existence. At level three Priest are able to create forcefields. Forcefields scale massively beyond one's own AP, with beings who can only destroy football fields being able of blocking nukes using them), Multi-Continent level with Sacred Advent, likely higher with Mind Power Shields.[39][40][41][42] | Multi-Continent level (Upon becoming an Archangel it was stated Kelly became a level seven mythical creature), likely higher with Mind Power Shields.[43] | Planet level (As True God Kelly at her level would be a hundred thousand times more powerful than being at level seven, capable of destroying entire worlds), Large Planet level via Divine Kingdom (Would be 5,000x more durable utilizing her Divine Kingdom as power is the only thing that determines one's level and by extension their capabilities), likely higher with Mind Power Shield.[16][17][18][20][21]
idk, but i have no problem with thatWhy hasn’t this gone top 10? The list is nearly maxed out and 5 seems too small of a number to list off the strongest for each tier
Fair enough (especially since there are a lot of other very powerful characters on the wiki)I’d argue 10 is the sweet spot for lists as it’s just enough space for some debating while not being too much to where it starts to muddy the spot a bit.
This was also commented before and various users (myself included) were in support of the idea, though at the end the talk died. I honestly think is quite a good idea and still support it.I’d argue 10 is the sweet spot for lists as it’s just enough space for some debating while not being too much to where it starts to muddy the spot a bit.