Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

[Felience1]

These are the exact names of the revisions that died that i could find:

Random Toaru ability (Aureolus aditions)
Crowley's Nondualism.
[Toaru] Othinus tiering revisions
[Toaru] On Alice surviving Gungnir's destruction
Alice Anotherbible (Toaru) Revision (couple of changes left, RW resistance and speed. Other resistance too. Abilities from the other trascendents)
[Toaru character addition to a profile] Adding the Will to the Sisters page
[Toaru] Additions for Mina Mathers
Gabriel Acausality (Toaru)
[ Toaru ] Gabriel MFTL or MFTL+ attack speed with God's Purge/Sweep
[Toaru] Additions surrounding Information Analysis and Resistance to it
[Toaru] Morality Manipulation for Othinus
[Toaru] Archetype Manipulation for Coronzon
Toaru Aleister CRT (Done, just 2 small changes left, AP and LS without magic)

Kanzaki supernatural luck.
Kiharas intelligence.
Kakine hive mind, maybe already aproved?

 

[XDragnoir]

Any idea where is the thread that discussed Will of the Network and her Nonduality?

 

[Felience1]

is this the one?

[Toaru character addition to a profile] Adding the Will to the Sisters page

 

[XDragnoir]

Honestly, it's sad to see so many CRTs just dying.

 

[Felience1]

I wish we could have more mods to check the CRTs. The profiles are not what they should be.

 

[Felience1]

Shouldn't kiharas intelligence be higher than genius? i am sure there are toons of feats.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Shouldn't kiharas intelligence be higher than genius? i am sure there are toons of feats.

Maybe after I post my Touma's intelligence revision. Sandbox is pretty much done (sans one or two things) and the rough draft for the CRT is also done... The way too many CRTs for the verse is preventing me from posting it, tho.

 

[Aseka]

Honestly, it's sad to see so many CRTs just dying.

Yeah, there's also one thread regarding Sweep/Astro in Hand speed from me too.

 

[Aseka]

Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

Nah, I need to see the stuff in View Source to get an exact copy of Kakeru's profile, which contains all of the pictures and tags stuff, so need to ask a mod if they can revert the delete or if they have a copy. ... Oof. That profile is awful as well... More things to do, I suppose.

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Kakine's hive mind is agreed by DT, but I don't know if it needs more agreements from other staffs, and even if it is fine to apply it, I don't know how to, so I leave that matter of page organizing to y'all.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Okay. I applied Aleister's profile revision.

 

[XDragnoir]

Toaru Discussion thread New Fourms #1

Nah, I need to see the stuff in View Source to get an exact copy of Kakeru's profile, which contains all of the pictures and tags stuff, so need to ask a mod if they can revert the delete or if they have a copy. ... Oof. That profile is awful as well... More things to do, I suppose.

vsbattles.com

Kakine's hive mind is agreed by DT, but I don't know if it needs more agreements from other staffs, and even if it is fine to apply it, I don't know how to, so I leave that matter of page organizing to y'all.

Thanks.

We should probably gather the minor CRTs in this list to make a single one "revival" CRT, but that's for after we are done with the current CRTs.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

I'll re-read the entire Alice thread, make a post that sums up everything accepted and rejected and then ping more mods regarding it in hopes of getting it approved.

Pretty sure the Othinus' thread itself doesn't have any problems. It's just dead. So ig I'll ping mods regarding that thread as well once I am done with the Alice thread.

 

[Felience1]

I added to the to do list what has been talked about, let me know if anything else is missing or has already been aproved.

 

[XDragnoir]

Shouldn't kiharas intelligence be higher than genius? i am sure there are toons of feats.

These tons of feats are really spread among all of them and we can't scale them to each other's feats, because most Kiharas that we know specialize in a single area, meaning they don't really fulfill the prerequisites to be EGs, just Genius.

I think the ones who got more focus (Amata, Gensei, Yuiitsu, Kagun and Hasuu) may get EG, as they have shown knowledge over two or more areas and overall more feats

 

[Felience1]

These tons of feats are really spread among all of them and we can't scale them to each other's feats, because most Kiharas that we know specialize in a single area, meaning they don't really fulfill the prerequisites to be EGs, just Genius.

I think the ones who got more focus (Amata, Gensei, Yuiitsu, Kagun and Hasuu) may get EG, as they have shown knowledge over two or more areas and overall more feats

Thats true, it should be specific to the kihara. Maybe enshu too? can't think if Noukan has enough feats.

By the way, do we have a way to list Alice's resistances to internal damage? we list then one by one?

 

[Tyranno223]

Minor detail, but Aleister's justification of being able to banish Archangels in one attack isn't exactly AP relevant. He uses the symbolism of Uriel being excommunicated by a Pope to undo their summoning in a spell.

 

[XDragnoir]

Thats true, it should be specific to the kihara. Maybe enshu too? can't think if Noukan has enough feats.

Not sure about Noukan either, I also don't think those five I listed definitely have enough to be EGs, but there's a chance.

By the way, do we have a way to list Alice's resistances to internal damage? we list then one by one?

One by one, with a possibly.

 

[Felience1]

Not sure about Noukan either, I also don't think those five I listed definitely have enough to be EGs, but there's a chance.


One by one, with a possibly.

Do we have a list of all of the resistances?

 

[XDragnoir]

Do we have a list of all of the resistances?

We listed quite a few ones in either this thread or the revision thread itself, not sure where it's now tho.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Okay, I have attempted to ping one more for the Alice CRT. If all goes well, we might be able to cross out Alice's main CRT off the list of on-going CRTs.

Okay, I'll like to get smth off my back. My profile for the Tokiwadai Dorm Manager is 90% done now. Due to feats in Mental Out manga, she'll be 9-A. Kewl, I suppose.

 

[Churronzon]

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Okay, I have decided to experiment.

Magic (Toaru Majutsu no Index)

vsbattles.fandom.com

Essentially, this is an explanation blog for all of the magic within toaru ranging from mana to phase manipulation to magicians to magic gods (ik, it is barebones, I just started it, lol)... Am entirely ripping off JJK's explanation blog for cursed energy, ngl, since it is kewl page imo.

 

[XDragnoir]

Okay, I have decided to experiment.

Magic (Toaru Majutsu no Index)

vsbattles.fandom.com

Essentially, this is an explanation blog for all of the magic within toaru ranging from mana to phase manipulation to magicians to magic gods (ik, it is barebones, I just started it, lol)... Am entirely ripping off JJK's explanation blog for cursed energy, ngl, since it is kewl page imo.

Looks good, I would just change Telesma and Mana, they should be their own section each since they're not the same things (well, Telesma could be under the Phase section, since each Phase has its equivalent to Telesma).

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Looks good, I would just change Telesma and Mana, they should be their own section each since they're not the same things (well, Telesma could be under the Phase section, since each Phase has its equivalent to Telesma).

Good idea. Thanks, Noir. I'll do that after I make the section for GD grimoire replicas (+ Mina).

 

[XDragnoir]

Good idea. Thanks, Noir. I'll do that after I make the section for GD grimoire replicas (+ Mina).

Also, another thing, do you plan to have the common knowledge spells there? The verse page lists the anti-flight spell and People Clearing Fields, those two plus the flight spell itself and possibly other widespread spells should in theory be in every profile.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

It's time for Touma's CRT. Since this is simple and obvious stuff, I wager this won't take too long.

 

[Churronzon]

Okay, I have decided to experiment.

Magic (Toaru Majutsu no Index)

vsbattles.fandom.com

Essentially, this is an explanation blog for all of the magic within toaru ranging from mana to phase manipulation to magicians to magic gods (ik, it is barebones, I just started it, lol)... Am entirely ripping off JJK's explanation blog for cursed energy, ngl, since it is kewl page imo.

How are we going to classify sparks from phases? Because they're a weakness for all magicians and Aleister and Niang-Niang use them as attacks

 

[Aseka]

How are we going to classify sparks from phases? Because they're a weakness for all magicians and Aleister and Niang-Niang use them as attacks

Iirc, Aleister said that Sparks and Spray is the thing that interfere with humans actions, akin like to fate bestowed to them. I don't know if it's really Fate Manipulation or not.

 

[Felience1]

The thread for Alice resistances is not done yet right?

 

[XDragnoir]

How are we going to classify sparks from phases? Because they're a weakness for all magicians and Aleister and Niang-Niang use them as attacks

The ones that are actively used seem to be magical projectiles that attack from random angles, IIRC they weren't used by Aleister or Niang-Niang in a direct fate haxy fashion.

The weakness side can be classified as probability/fate hax in a weakness section of Magic or something like that.

 

[XDragnoir]

Before we start more and more CRTs:

[Toaru] Alice Anotherbible's Resistances

Not really a CRT, just a discussion thread to find out which resistances are to be listed as "possible resistance" in Alice's profile (but since it's in theory about adding content, I am creating it in the CRT subforum). It was accepted in a CRT and it's based on this: "Also, her body was...

vsbattles.com

 

[Churronzon]

The ones that are actively used seem to be magical projectiles that attack from random angles, IIRC they weren't used by Aleister or Niang-Niang in a direct fate haxy fashion.

The weakness side can be classified as probability/fate hax in a weakness section of Magic or something like that.

So just probability(?) manip from likely being able to save Lilith if he developed the spell sooner?

“Gah...bah!? Are you saying you’ve constructed a way to gather together the unpredictable
sparks and spray so you can target and fire it!?”

“Do not act so surprised by what is no more than a lightning rod. And it is limited to the
magic that I launch myself. But if I had completed this spell one hundred years earlier, I
might have been able to show some kindness to an innocent baby.”

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

If that's just a thing unique to Aleister, let's just do it like JJK profiles, i.e, we list the standard abilities that a magician has then make a mini-list about the unique abilities that they themselves only have. Gojo's profile and Yuji's profile for example.

 

[XDragnoir]

So just probability(?) manip from likely being able to save Lilith if he developed the spell sooner?

What? How is protecting Lilith probability manipulation? I don't get it.

 

[Churronzon]

If you can redirect misfortune away from someone, is that probability manip

 

[XDragnoir]

If you can redirect misfortune away from someone, is that probability manip

From the way he is saying it, he wouldn't redirect it from her, he explicitly says he is limited to his own sparks so what he is saying is that he could save her from being affected by his own sparks.

 

[Felience1]

I will say that he was able to find Magic Gods. Don't know if already added, but even being able to find someone in the hidden world is fate manip or probabilty manip right?

 

[Aseka]

I will say that he was able to find Magic Gods. Don't know if already added, but even being able to find someone in the hidden world is fate manip or probabilty manip right?

Already treated as Void Manipulation.

 

[Felience1]

That is only to exist there, "Instead whether or not something meets in this place is entirely regulated by destiny." Don't you think meeting with someone in this case is more than being able to exist in a non-existent place? Maybe not, just made sense to me rereading stuff.

 

[XDragnoir]

I will say that he was able to find Magic Gods. Don't know if already added, but even being able to find someone in the hidden world is fate manip or probabilty manip right?

It's stated that it's up to fate and it's never stated anyone, be it Aleister or the MGs themselves, were directly messing with fate to find each other while inside of it, the MGs at least we know can change fate if they rewrite the world, but Aleister definitely doesn't have such control.