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Titanic Asura's Wrath Revisions!

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I mean wasn't the "world creation" statement rejected due to lack of feats and vagueness on ether or not that refered to the universe, all that this 3-A moon does is make that consistent
 
Theendzero13 said:
I mean wasn't the "world creation" statement rejected due to lack of feats and vagueness on ether or not that refered to the universe, all that this 3-A moon does is make that consistent
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IIRC the creation stuff would be High 3-A due to the realm in question being infinite in size or whatever, or so say the Asura's Wrath folk.
 
Idk. The evidence for Chakravartin creating Naraka is slim. Though I do think the “endless” statement is taken slightly out of context.
 
Theendzero13 said:
I mean wasn't the "world creation" statement rejected due to lack of feats and vagueness on ether or not that refered to the universe, all that this 3-A moon does is make that consistent
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It was

And they lack Universal Energy System and a bigger explanation on why they scale to Creation feats would be needed, scaling Creation to AP isn't that simple anymore
 
So Executor replied again, this is what he said about the moon not being as big as its Schwarzschild radius:

"Not being that big is kinda the problem. Since it's an object that is smaller than that, it should have collapsed into a black hole for being that dense, something that didn't happen. As I stated before, I don't know if I'm just misremembering that being a problem in some old calculation that I saw.

If that isn't a problem anymore (Or never was and I just am misremembering something) then it should be fine."
 
KLOL506 said:
So Executor replied again, this is what he said about the moon not being as big as its Schwarzschild radius:

"Not being that big is kinda the problem. Since it's an object that is smaller than that, it should have collapsed into a black hole for being that dense, something that didn't happen. As I stated before, I don't know if I'm just misremembering that being a problem in some old calculation that I saw.

If that isn't a problem anymore (Or never was and I just am misremembering something) then it should be fine."
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As I say. I don't recall it ever being a problem. So I believe it is fine.
 
I agree with the revisions, kudos on the very detailed OP. Imo if the 3-A calc is mathematically accurate it should be usable.
 
First off the street fighter stuff isn't even canon to neither verse and asura as well as chakravartin should be at least universal+ anything else is downplay as we have MULTIPLE statements that chakravartin created the universe as well as naraka which is stated to be infinite
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This verse is so outdated it makes me want to cry. Over the past 12,500 years, I've been making calcs to fix this verse. Now lets get too it.

Issues I have​


I have no idea why this is even a thing. They’re literally MHS+ because they’re shown flying around in space (that's the "evidence" linked on the profile btw). They should be removed.


Though I don’t think anything is mathematically wrong this calc. The problem is the size of the Karma Fortress. It's big sure, but not as big as the size in the calc. As shown here, it's quite close to Gaea but it's not nearly as big as this. That's mere concept art. It's better to use this calc, which is at least 33 Ninatons


Asura and Chakravartin were 4-A due to this. Moving all planets and stars in the galaxy is 4-B. Since FTL KE is a no no, using the combined GBE of all planet and stars in the galaxy, which is 4-B.


There are a lot of LS placements that are just there with no calcs at all.


Outdated and super hard to find where the FTL feat is. The scaling applied is also very wrong.

Calculations​

Wyzen destroys a Gohma Carrier | 6-B (16.0183181166 Teratons)
Vlitra burst's from the earth's core | High 6-A (5.38739770554 Exatons), Relativistic+ (0.50848908614 SoL), Class Z (9.92512e+23 kg)
Vlitra shoots lasers | FTL (5.08876307355 SoL)
Asura throws a Gohma Crusher | Class M (958204946.776 kg)
Asura throws Wyzen into space | Class G (34395213638.1624 kg)
Wyzen Finger Poke/Asura Kills Wyzen | 5-B (701.689603253 Zettatons), Massively Hypersonic (Mach 829.055274052), Class Y (6.0160883e+25 kg), 5-A (9.90015654875 Ninatons)
Chakravartin laser speed | Massively FTL+ (Over 14 trillion times SoL), Large Size Type 6 (6229.43258131 light years tall)
Chakravartin throws a gigantic moon | 3-A (19.811372 TenaexaFoe), Universal Lifting Strength (2.4396811e+61 kg)
These are all accepted btw

The Characters​

God this is gonna be so long...
MHS+ should be gone, as stated above. Relativistic+ scales to everyone since they’re shown dodging Vlitra's lasers. FTL Only scales to Post 12,500 years Vlitra, Episode 17 Asura and Yasha, Sakra Devanam Indra Deus, Vlitra Core, Mantra Asura, and Episode 18 Yasha. Massively FTL+ only scales to Post Mantra Reactor Asura and Chakravartin.
The Gohma's second key should be "At most Large Planet level". They're shown to be a threat to post 12,000 years Asura but usually get overpowered.
Wyzen is getting downgraded for the following reasons. He's unable to harm Vlitra, as Six Armed Vajra Asura is the only one shown to harm Vlitra. He'll be 6-B in base as well as his Vajra state due to the calc shown above. His LS in base should be "Class M" in base and "Class G" in his Vajra state due to upscaling (Asura's Class M feat is so close to Class G it's not even funny). Gongen Wyzen will also be 5-B now due to the new calc. Due to being super slow, Gongen Wyzen will also have his speed negged to MHS.
Kalrow, Olga, and Sergei will all be changed to "Likely 5-B" and have sub-relativistic removed due to no evidence of them being comparable to Augus. Speaking of which...
Augus will be "at least 5-A" due to being stronger than post episode 5 base Asura and fighting on par with his six armed state. This means he should have Class Y lifting strength as well. He should also be High 5-A with his blade due to upscaling (Fun fact: Only 2 people ever forced Augus to use his blade. Deus and Asura).
As mention above, the Karma Fortress should be knocked down to High 5-A and Class Y due to it's size.
Deus Should be High 5-A in base and "At least High 5-A" when merged with the Karma Fortress. His base is so far above Yasha that it was embarrassing to watch.
Gohma Vlitra should keep High 6-A in his first key since he did perform that feat. "At least High 5-A" in his second key for keeping up with Episode 17 Asura and Yasha. "At least High 5-A likely higher" in his third key due to fighting Mantra Asura and Episode 18 Yasha.
Yasha doesn’t need much changing. A lot of his feats are performed while he's in his base form. He only gets amped by the end of the game. Since he's able to dodge FTL lasers from post 12,500 years Vlitra, his speed would back scale to Berserk/Wrath Asura. His amped key will be "At least High 5-A likely higher" due to being on par with Mantra Asura.
Ryu and Akuma should also be affected. They'll be 6-B in base and at least High 5-A likely higher with their transformation.
Chakravartin's stats are relatively simple. He has the 3-A and MFTL+ feats so he'll get those tiers updated.
Now it's time for our boi, ASURA! This is going to be a pretty big section.
First Key (Episode 1): His base form hill be 6-B for fighting on par with Wyzen. This key will also have his six arm state at high 6-A for breaking Vlitra's skull. It was even stated that he outdid Augus on the battlefield at the time. It would look something like this. | 6-B, High 6-A as Six Armed Vajra Asura
Second Key (Episode 5): His base doesn’t have any new feats but one he summons his extra arms, he vastly overpowers Vajra Wyzen and even manages to catch Gongen Wyzen's finger. | 6-B, 5-B as Six Armed Vajra Asura
Third key (End of Episode 5 and onward): Here is where Asura destroys Wyzen's body, which is 5-A. He stays rather stagnant in this key due to later amps being through transformations. His key would look like this. | 5-A, higher as Six Armed Vajra Asura
Fourth key (Berserk/Wrath Asura): In his berserk state Asura matched the Bramastra for a brief time but was ultimately deep fried. His Wrath form is much weaker and managed to fight on par with base Yasha. | At most High 5-A, at least 5-A in Wrath state
Fifth key (Episode 17): In his fight with Indra Dues, Asura uses his six arms to fight and eventually over power him. Simple stuff. | 5-A, at least High 5-A in Six Armed Vajra state
Sixth Key (Mantra Asura): After Mithra amps him up, Asura's arms get super swole. This is where he becomes much stronger than Deus and fights Vlitra Core. | At least High 5-A likely higher
Seventh key (Post Mantra Reactor): Here Asura gets really strong. He's able to fight on par with post episode 18 Yasha in his base after obtaining the mantra reactor. He then later uses it to fight Chakravartin while flying to the center of the galaxy. | At least High 5-A likely higher, higher with transformations, 3-A as Asura the Destructor
Last key (End of game): In his very last fight, Asura is reduced to his base form against Chakravartin the Creator. He eventually gets the upper hand with sheer will and anger, then kills him. | At least 3-A possibly higher

And that should be all. It was one hell of a ride revisiting this verse. It was epic, heartfelt, emothional, but most importantly, it was damn fun. After years of this verse being untouched, I finally got something to do about it. Let’s hope this goes though.


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I'm surprised there is no size between stellar and galactic. Isn't Chakravartin waay too big to be in the stellar but not big enough to be in galactic?
 
Let's be fair here, it's absolutely ludicrous to think anything of this scale is gonna be 1:1 accurate scaling wise, it'd actually be impossible to pull off.
What's more important is how big it's supposed to be when dealing with things this large, and I think a blatant shot comparison between it and Chak is more important than a shot between it and like a tiny few px Asura, who's even smaller than the above shots if you go frame by frame.
 
Hmm, you might actually be right, that could be a perspective thing, it could actually be like a galaxy in front of Chak for all we know?
I'll wait to see if there's any other info first but maybe.
 
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