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True so this thread doesnt have much relivance know.
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Tiering for High Outerversal and tier 0s (1 per verse)
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Since when? I see no discussion regarding that.Bobsican said:
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Ok sorry, but then the title should be changed as there will no longer be a tier 0.Bobsican said:
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I dont remember the thread but Matthew and Ant where talking about weather or not it should be removed(Didnt keep track so I dont know if something was reached).Dragonmasterxyz said:
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Since when? I see no discussion regarding that.
I put a link to it a bit up.
I put a link to it a bit up.
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Because of Japanese visual novel bullshit.
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Idk, go ask Japan.
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This thread is the one where it got downgraded.
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The No Limits Fallacy doesn't apply to Tier 0s for the sole fact that they truly have no limitations, that's the very definition of a Tier 0.
Same for High 1-As, except for one or two limitations which are:
- A: There's already a Tier 0 in the verse.
- B: The High 1-A has some sort of flaw that prevents it from being truly Tier 0.
Same for High 1-As, except for one or two limitations which are:
- A: There's already a Tier 0 in the verse.
- B: The High 1-A has some sort of flaw that prevents it from being truly Tier 0.
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Examples for both could be,
A: Yog-Sothoth due to Azathoth
B: Featherine due to her memory
A: Yog-Sothoth due to Azathoth
B: Featherine due to her memory
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From what ive seen/heard its not confirmed its being removed.
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And also to note that you never even provided the link of that info.
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This was mentioned already.DeathstroketheHedgehog said:
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It was a discussion between Ant and Matthew (if I remember correctly) but nothing came from it.
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Personally, I think that The Creator >= The Law of Identity > Featherine Augustus Aurora > Azathoth > Yog-Sothoth >>> The Writer > The Overvoid > The One Above All >= Kami Tenchi, but that is just me. It is very hard to properly compare characters of this level.
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Just out of curiosity, what makes The Creator stronger than Azathoth? Reality being a literal dream to you seems pretty insurmountable.
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I personally would switch Azzy and Law but overall I agree (If they become High 1-As or tier 0s are allowed to be ranked).
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Basically for omnipotent is High 1-A, cus omnipotent limit is "Can omnipotent create heavy rock so he/she can't even lift it?" I guess
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The Creator and The Law of Identity have a beyond infinite hierarchy of such reality-fiction/dream differences at their disposal. That sounds more impressive to me.
Umineko is from where Lionel Suggs apparently stole several of his ideas.
Umineko is from where Lionel Suggs apparently stole several of his ideas.
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So Tier 0 isn't going to exist anymore? Well, I guess that makes sense, since some could argue that within fiction, an upper limit might not really exist, and omnipotent itself is a paradox.
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When ever I here "Can omnipotent create heavy rock so he/she can't even lift it?" I think of this comic strip.
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It's true that it's hard to compare characters of this level properly, but I think azathoth is arguably above creator and identity, but creator is above law and the others.Antvasima said:
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What happens is that as they aren´t a part of Azzy´s dream (as they come from an entirely separated outerversal hierarchy that´s also infinite), even if he woke up they wouldn´t really care, and Azzy wouldn´t even have the will to try to do anything to them besides tickling with tentacles afterwards.ZacharyGrossman273 said:
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That just so happens to be the picture we use for our omnipotence page.
That just so happens to be the picture we use for our omnipotence page.
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Oh, never looked at the Omnipotence page here, cool.
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Unpopular opinion, TLoI doesn't even look like a 1-A, let alone a 0. Her description sounds like High 1-B (or was it Akuto's who sounds like High 1-B with TLoI sounding baseline 1-A to me).
Either way, I personally really doubt her being anywhere near the top of the hierarchy, especially since for such a level of "transcendence", there's only 2 1-As in her verse, including her, yet both of them are High 1-A for some reason.
Inb4 I get taken apart by people who actually know what they're talking about.
Either way, I personally really doubt her being anywhere near the top of the hierarchy, especially since for such a level of "transcendence", there's only 2 1-As in her verse, including her, yet both of them are High 1-A for some reason.
Inb4 I get taken apart by people who actually know what they're talking about.
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