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This is the follow up post to the second one that was the sequal to the first one that was the follow up to a battle between Death of The Endless and LEM. Refresh yourselves on the information
Blog is taking a back seet in the opperation since I am starting college, but these revisions will still continue full force. many of the stuff that still needs to get fuxed from the first one will be copy pasted here
Profile Overhaul
Stats aside, the character profiles need alot of work:
Here are the keys that need to be added to the profiles:
A lot of the stuff has been talked about. For one, Outerversal has been confirmed. Still working on where the God tiers are at, that comes after we discuss the hyperversal stuff. The statsus of the God tiers will come from if power differences are maintained between when the entire cast jumps in power. HE however, has been confirmed not to be High Outerversal regardless. The Divine Presence will likely come last in our discussions, and will need a thread of his own.
Justification for 1-A: Ok, let's break down the Proof of 1-A, any of the hyperversal stuff will step in later. We can discuss the degrees of High Hyperversal later, that's not what's important right now.
Justification for Hyperversal Shadow Nulls with a Given Layer: Alright, so I talked to Don't Talk. He said he couldn't really be of help, but that the statements make no sense from his perspective/our on Physics. Really, that the cosmology of I/O draws a distinction that we do not.
He did mention there are tier 5s and tier 9s not touched by the laws of physics, which is interesting and I would like to know about these characters
I went and talked to this dude I know who goes by the name Death of The Endless, who is very knowledgable of physics and dimensions
Here is what he said:
" Well it could place him at 12d or 4d, since the whole point of string theory is to unify all laws of physics into one theory that can be explained and for that to happen it would require 10 dimensions of space and 1 of time.
But then again higher dimensions that transcend the 3 we experience can work with their own laws of physics which transcend our own, as michio kaku describes it if beings from those higher dimensions were to get involved with us, they would seem omnipotent and omniscience to us. So in a sense even 4d beings trandcend our laws of physics
But the only bound to quantum theory part is the part that's a bit harder to answer because quantum mechanics is a huge part of physics, so he would technically still be bound by the laws of physics and at the same time not be?? ...
It states in the link "i can now transcend time and move back in time" but that's iffy to go back in time would require their to exist 2 dimensions of time which can only happen in the 12th dimension (which is iffy whether a dimension like this can even exist), because reaching the 4th dimension of space time doesn't allow someone to travel back in time only to be in all places in time at once
So 12d i guess"
Matt nave an opinion, or more accurately didn't know. Most other people either didn't know or agreed, so I guess it flies. Basically, this is really confusing so I guess we agree with the people who do understand lol
Blog is taking a back seet in the opperation since I am starting college, but these revisions will still continue full force. many of the stuff that still needs to get fuxed from the first one will be copy pasted here
Profile Overhaul
Stats aside, the character profiles need alot of work:
- many of the profiles have what are tantamount to snapple facts instead of summeries
- abilities are missing for several characters
- Pictures are missing of characters at key levels, tho this is partially due to what exactly these profiles cover. more on that later
- The Verse Page needs to be re organised. I think the "high tier," "low tier," etc. miss represents the powers of many of the characters. Like LEM is only low tier at the very end of the game cuz she ascend into The World Beyond the Tower. I think theyn should be reorganised into factions or organisations, such as {Criminal}, The Great Triad, Quantum Computers, Gods of Cyberspace, etc.
- We are missing a few profiles as well, such as Kosuke and whatever that thing was at the end
Here are the keys that need to be added to the profiles:
- Street to Wall Level Keys
- Shadow Null Keys
- In the hierarchy keys
- The fused keys for the quantum computers
A lot of the stuff has been talked about. For one, Outerversal has been confirmed. Still working on where the God tiers are at, that comes after we discuss the hyperversal stuff. The statsus of the God tiers will come from if power differences are maintained between when the entire cast jumps in power. HE however, has been confirmed not to be High Outerversal regardless. The Divine Presence will likely come last in our discussions, and will need a thread of his own.
Justification for 1-A: Ok, let's break down the Proof of 1-A, any of the hyperversal stuff will step in later. We can discuss the degrees of High Hyperversal later, that's not what's important right now.
- Proof of a Qualitative difference between The Ziggurat and The Moo. Essentially, no matter how "tall" the ziggurat gets, it will never reach the sky. The Moon will always be above the tower. Biblical and Babylonian Metaphors, etc. etc. (other stuff too but that's no what we are here for rn)
- Proof of Being beyond the concepts of space and time. Neither concept has any meaning here. As i said before, Sorry for lacking many context scans for this collection specifically. There is a bunch of Philosphy and irrelevent stuff in between the actual important parts, and I would end up basically uploading the entire final route for.
- If you want me to link you the entire final route, I can send you a link on Youtube, but heads up, a lot of it will mean jack shit to you, particularly without the previous routes as context
- Proof that each Layer has at least 1 dimension like difference.
- Proof of infinite Layers [in Marduk's hierarchy].
- Even all the stuff that happened 'before' (story wise, not chronologically nor causally) are meerly possibilities, which they transcend. Even in the infinite hierarchy with time and space existing in higher layers of it, are meaningless in The World of The Moon
- The characters who exist there, are beyond all the possibilities of the previous routes, even the potentially Hyperversal and High Hyperversal parts. Nabu implies they are completely superior to these, and can easily replace each on a whim. To the entire cast, space and time are now meaningless. They are also linked to the void itself in a sense, andare just pure informatio.
- Also, by the wording, the characters were technically always there, and all the stuff they experienced were just possibilities. The High selves were there from the start chronologically, if you can even call it that. Technically speaking, they are not only outside of everything, but between everything as well
- Also, this is a general thing for the composite hierarchy. To be in a higher layer, is to be on that level of power. Traversal is power in this kind of hierarchy. This is no different for The Moon either
Justification for Hyperversal Shadow Nulls with a Given Layer: Alright, so I talked to Don't Talk. He said he couldn't really be of help, but that the statements make no sense from his perspective/our on Physics. Really, that the cosmology of I/O draws a distinction that we do not.
He did mention there are tier 5s and tier 9s not touched by the laws of physics, which is interesting and I would like to know about these characters
I went and talked to this dude I know who goes by the name Death of The Endless, who is very knowledgable of physics and dimensions
Here is what he said:
" Well it could place him at 12d or 4d, since the whole point of string theory is to unify all laws of physics into one theory that can be explained and for that to happen it would require 10 dimensions of space and 1 of time.
But then again higher dimensions that transcend the 3 we experience can work with their own laws of physics which transcend our own, as michio kaku describes it if beings from those higher dimensions were to get involved with us, they would seem omnipotent and omniscience to us. So in a sense even 4d beings trandcend our laws of physics
But the only bound to quantum theory part is the part that's a bit harder to answer because quantum mechanics is a huge part of physics, so he would technically still be bound by the laws of physics and at the same time not be?? ...
It states in the link "i can now transcend time and move back in time" but that's iffy to go back in time would require their to exist 2 dimensions of time which can only happen in the 12th dimension (which is iffy whether a dimension like this can even exist), because reaching the 4th dimension of space time doesn't allow someone to travel back in time only to be in all places in time at once
So 12d i guess"
Matt nave an opinion, or more accurately didn't know. Most other people either didn't know or agreed, so I guess it flies. Basically, this is really confusing so I guess we agree with the people who do understand lol