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Tier 5-C The Sky Apocalypse Tournament (2023): Regenesis Shockwave vs Negi Springfield

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Rules:
  • Attack Potency: (38 Exatons to 400 Exatons) (Willing to make exceptions)
  • Speed: Equalized speed in all matches
  • Distance: 50 meters apart from each other
  • Win: Win via killing or Incap or BFR (As long as both are not the first move for instant win)
  • Knowledge: Random encounters no prior knowledge to anybody
  • Participants: Total 14 Participants! One spot belongs to me
  • Location: All matches will take place Sky High in a levatation Mountain known as The Mountain of Doom. This place is 20000 m high in the sky floatting. Your character if fell from the mountain will die and you will lose the match, Be wise with your picks the land is jungle with giant sequoia trees.
    (Location picture below)
    (Inside View)

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Combatants:
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Result​
Characters:Attack Potency:Votes:
Regenesis Shockwave:328.01 Exatons
Negi Springfield:(308.31 Exatons) are scaling from Touta receiving 0.5% of Nikitis' energy (61,66 Zettatons)7 (Kazuma, DD, Popted2, Arkenis, Achintiya, NoneLess, Reiner)
Inconclusive:
 
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Negi apparently gains "Chisame's technology manipulation" while using his artifact, wich going by the sensei negima wikia page, allows her to hack into systems by "astral projection into cyberspace".
Would Negi use this here and does Regenesis Shockwave have any way of resisting it?
 
Pactio: Idolum Virtuale (literally, "Vitual Idol): Her artifact is called Sceptrum Virtuale. It is a heart-topped staff, similar to a weapon used by magical girls. The first display of the artifacts abilities was when used in conjunction with her laptop PC, it allows her and anyone within her vicinity to enter cyberspace, upon which she can internally hack into systems using her computer knowledge to put a stop to any opponent

Hacking Abilities are able to hack into large databases using nothing more than a laptop computer, and is able to put up firewalls and other protection programs to a certain extent

Regenesis does not resist hacking at all right?
 
Epiccheev said:
Negi apparently gains "Chisame's technology manipulation" while using his artifact, wich going by the sensei negima wikia page, allows her to hack into systems by "astral projection into cyberspace".
Would Negi use this here and does Regenesis Shockwave have any way of resisting it?
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And that is the most simple win condition, Negi can also win in a normal fight because Regenesis for what I read does not use his op Hax unless is extremely preasure or is in a 2 vs 1, Negi has more range and powers unless we count Regenesis op hax
 
I have asked on Transformers general discussion thread for input here hopefully someone will respond, DaReaper has also been informed.
 
Epiccheev said:
Negi apparently gains "Chisame's technology manipulation" while using his artifact, wich going by the sensei negima wikia page, allows her to hack into systems by "astral projection into cyberspace".
Would Negi use this here and does Regenesis Shockwave have any way of resisting it?
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Why would hacking even affect Transformers to begin with? They don't work like that.

Shockwave's regenesis stuff are more akin to stuff like Infinity stones.
 


This was early series Negi while fighting ill and not taking the fight seriously at the beginning for being surprised



Him still at an early arc fighting someone who is superior to him and still being able to fight back, using clones as decoy to dodge attacks

In his fight against Fate, he started with thousand thunder (Chīliaplē Astrapē), vaporizing a 100 M long boulder and is considered an attack strong enough to wipe entires armies Chapters 325 and 328 [Done in his 5-C key to clarify]

If Negi uses Cassiopeia, he can return in time or become intangible for a moment via "time stopping" [Read Cassiopeia in his page to understand fully, is in the bottom]

And finally, the moment Negi use his transmutation spell, which he use early in fights, Regenesis is done [Proof: The second video, he used said transmutation to destroy the shadow blades from Kagetaro via freezing it, it was an imperfect version but that Negi is 8-C, this is 5-C, he has already mastered it]
 
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Question, what key is this? Negi only has the Cassiopeta and his artifact for the arc they are introduced. Negi usually starts with nuking spells in his last key and using Ensis Exsequens when doing for melee. He probably wouldn't use Manus Jaldea cus he only uses it against ultra mega evil people or whatever.

What means does Shockwave have of killing Negi anyway, he has Mid-High regen and it works extremely fast.
 
CrimsonStarFallen said:
Question, what key is this?
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Final Key but I could choose third if I want, but I am not gonna use it to give Regenesis the ability of not being Speed blitz


CrimsonStarFallen said:
Negi only has the Cassiopeta and his artifact for the arc they are introduced
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The page needs to be changed, I searched it and you are right... But the rest of what you said is true, explosion/ spells of excesive range like thousand thunder and in close combat transmutation and he could use this early if he wants
CrimsonStarFallen said:
What means does Shockwave have of killing Negi anyway
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His op hax, see his page, but the problem is that Negi is gonna use transmutation(or whatever instawin he has) earlier, like, Negi using close combat plus transmutation is 1000 times more possible than Regenesis using OP hax unless a transformer expert says the contrary
 
I mean, we know Negi only used Manus Janus against someone who embodied the suffering of the entire human race, so I'm not too sure on that lol
 
CrimsonStarFallen said:
What means does Shockwave have of killing Negi anyway, he has Mid-High regen and it works extremely fast
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Literally any even remotely offensive Ore, and since they're mostly tech, not magic,

Let's go over them

Ore-1 let's Shockwave temporal BFR

Ore-2 allows Shockwave to literally kill on touch

Ore-4 Allows Shockwave to gravity crush Class Ms, and Negi is only Class K

Ore-6 basically apsolute zeros the place

Ore-7 both gives him High-mid regen when needed and Transmutation to turn Negi into something else

Ore-9 is literally just Spatial BFR.

So unless Negi is literally killing instantly to where Haxless characters have 0 chance of winning(AKA he doesn't qualify while despite his BS, Shockwave DID lose to haxless characters), Shockwave can do several different things including just sending Negi to the other side of the universe with a thought
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
But Regenesis starts with basic stuff right?

When he use his Ores? And what happened when those Haxless characters defeated him, did he used the Ores in that fight?
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Yes

He didn't actually have the majority of them, the only ones he for sure had(That weren't resisted like Ore-2) were Ore-1 and Ore-9, he'd already used the rest in the regenesis project or to defend himself(Like creating and army 70 billion strong) while he made shit happen.
 
Then we have to decided if Negi can win early because if both use basic stuff and no hax Negi completely stomps, if Negi uses transmutation [which could happen because they are at 50 M] he also wins, if the hacking works [we should ask crimsom] he also wins and Negi can use a sleep spell to get the chance to land this attacks [Saying this because somehow the transformer does not have limitless stamina that robots should normally have)

And if the match drags on, Regenesis use a Ore and wins

So, I will wait for more arguments or opinions

Also: Sinus Magnus (太陰道; taiindou): The ultimate purpose of Magia Erebea – not taking in chi or mana, shots or spells, but the enemy’s power, making it your own. With this, he can apply the force of an energy attack that he absorbed and add its strength to himself, increasing his physical strength and Attack Potency. The user can also reflect spells towards the caster.

Unless is wrong, this would work against Regenesis attacks
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
Then we have to decided if Negi can win early because if both use basic stuff and no hax Negi completely stomps, if Negi uses transmutation [which could happen because they are at 50 M] he also wins, if the hacking works [we should ask crimsom] he also wins and Negi can use a sleep spell to get the chance to land this attacks [Saying this because somehow the transformer does not have limitless stamina that robots should normally have)

And if the match drags on, Regenesis use a Ore and wins

So, I will wait for more arguments or opinions

Also: Sinus Magnus (太陰道; taiindou): The ultimate purpose of Magia Erebea – not taking in chi or mana, shots or spells, but the enemy’s power, making it your own. With this, he can apply the force of an energy attack that he absorbed and add its strength to himself, increasing his physical strength and Attack Potency. The user can also reflect spells towards the caster.

Unless is wrong, this would work against Regenesis attacks
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I'd see Emirp's opinion on this, it's a solid case.
Emirp sumitpo said:
Transformers aren't like AI, not do they have like a computer database in them or anything.

They're powered by sparks (Basically souls)
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Poke
 
DaReaperMan said:
Ore-1 let's Shockwave temporal BFR
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Fair enough.

DaReaperMan said:
Ore-2 allows Shockwave to literally kill on touch
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The profile says it decays people. How fast? What's the mechanism for the death?

DaReaperMan said:
Ore-4 Allows Shockwave to gravity crush Class Ms, and Negi is only Class K
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Wouldn't really matter given Negi's regen scales from people falling into black holes or whatever, and even outside of that, Raisen Tensou turns him into a stream of supercharged electrons and he basically always starts with transforming into that.

DaReaperMan said:
Ore-6 basically apsolute zeros the place
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Probably would do it.

DaReaperMan said:
Ore-7 both gives him High-mid regen when needed and Transmutation to turn Negi into something else
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Unless he can affect elementary particles idk how much that would affect Negi in this form.

DaReaperMan said:
Ore-9 is literally just Spatial BFR.
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That would do it.
 
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