Tier 2-B Upgrade Possibly 2-A for Kagerou Project

[Sebas-S.P-san]

Hello everyone, here I come with an update for Kagerou Project, please read carefully the Sandbox to understand it.

Azami with (2-B Possibly 2-A) and Marry Kozakura in the same way,

Sebas-S.P-san/Kagerou Project Cosmology Update

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it is worth noting that here I am basing on the first timelines shown in the verse which are the musics and the light novel.

Agree: @Wikisource (with 2-B) @DarkDragonMedeus (with 2-B) @Jeeeeepil123 (with 2-B) @Biggibs (with 2-B)
@Compsito (with 2-B) @Elizhaa (with 2-B) @Digital_Franz (with 2-B)
Desagreed:

Neutral:

 

[Wikisource]

I think 2-B seems fine but I'm not sure about "possibly 2-A".

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

2-B looks good, 2-A looks a bit too vague.

 

[Sebas-S.P-san]

Bump

 

[Jeeeeepil123]

Agree with 2-B.
For 2-A, nah, I don't think so. It's a basic "infinitely expanding" kind of thing, which is just ad-infinitum (and that's 2-B)

 

[Sebas-S.P-san]

Agree with 2-B.
For 2-A, nah, I don't think so. It's a basic "infinitely expanding" kind of thing, which is just ad-infinitum (and that's 2-B)

I assumed the same thing...but I'll still settle for 2-B.

 

[Biggibs]

I agree with 2B

 

[Compsito]

Regarding "each timeline in which Hiyori died was different" I would appreciate if you would attach the scans and not just a YT link, it is only a recommendation because it would be more for everyone to analyze the verse better. Now, is each cycle a different timeline? If so, I agree with 2B.

 

[Sebas-S.P-san]

Regarding "each timeline in which Hiyori died was different" I would appreciate if you would attach the scans and not just a YT link, it is only a recommendation because it would be more for everyone to analyze the verse better.Now, is each cycle a different timeline?

Brother, I put the YouTube link because it is the visual interpretation of the novel, of how the events take place, if you can see it in full it would be better, although there is also the anime version which is practically the same.

If you can see it and understand it, it would be fine, although it is not something complicated.

 

[Sebas-S.P-san]

If so, I agree with 2B.

Sounds good to me.

 

[GarrixianXD]

It looks like some kind of time loop or chaos in the causality system to me. Creating a world that repeats the events that repeat isn't remotely equivalent to actually creating countless to infinite worlds. Especially it was specifically mentioned that a place with recurring events is specifically said to have some kind of time loop that repeats events that occurred in the past.

 

[Sebas-S.P-san]

It looks like some kind of time loop or chaos in the causality system to me. Creating a world that repeats the events that repeat isn't remotely equivalent to actually creating countless to infinite worlds. Especially it was specifically mentioned that a place with recurring events is specifically said to have some kind of time loop that repeats events that occurred in the past.

Ehh, no, that's not the point,

1: The events are not identical
2: Hiyori died in different types of timelines within the Kagerou Daze, or did you not pay attention to the inside of this part?

This is about the same day repeating itself to some extent, in DIFFERENT TIMELINES.


I forgot to tell you that these deaths happen in different ways.

 

[Elizhaa]

2-B is fine; 2-A is to ambiguous.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Ehh, no, that's not the point,

1: The events are not identical
2: Hiyori died in different types of timelines within the Kagerou Daze, or did you not pay attention to the inside of this part?

This is about the same day repeating itself to some extent, in DIFFERENT TIMELINES.


I forgot to tell you that these deaths happen in different ways.

Well, I didn't catch this initially since you didn't link the timestamp of the video; I delved into the video and took me a minute to find that scene.

Anyway, it doesn't really ring a bell; a cycle of repetitive events has been consistently mentioned in the scans you showed as well as that scene. It quite disqualifies the proposition that all of those events happened in different timelines rather than a chaotic cycle of events, though, if you're pushing for an argument that each possibility represents an event in each timeline then I perhaps can go with that. However, it'll only prove that countless timelines exist within the verse, I don't really see how anyone will scale to it -- creating a world with an endless loop of events wouldn't qualify for 2-B or 2-A.

 

[Sebas-S.P-san]

Well, I didn't catch this initially since you didn't link the timestamp of the video; I delved into the video and took me a minute to find that scene.

Anyway, it doesn't really ring a bell; a cycle of repetitive events has been consistently mentioned in the scans you showed as well as that scene. It quite disqualifies the proposition that all of those events happened in different timelines rather than a chaotic cycle of events, though, if you're pushing for an argument that each possibility represents an event in each timeline then I perhaps can go with that. However, it'll only prove that countless timelines exist within the verse, I don't really see how anyone will scale to it -- creating a world with an endless loop of events wouldn't qualify for 2-B or 2-A.

Let me see if I can summarize it easier for you.

1: The Kagerou Daze ABARCA those timelines, in itself, there is no mention of them being external to him either.

2: To interpret it in another way here, it is Hibiya preventing Hiyori from dying, or at least that's what happened, yes, maybe it can be understood as different possibilities but within the Kagerou Daze, besides as I have already repeated constantly, different timelines, that's why the clocks that come out there are also understood.

 

[Sebas-S.P-san]

Bump

 

[Digital_Franz]

Uh from what I understand it's some kind of loop where timelines are preserved. 2-B works perfectly here but 2-A doesn't.