Cookie Run 1-A - Realm of Apathy

[Richard5128pm]

It all seems fine to me. So you can count my vote in, though I wonder what ultima would say.

 

[Ar1216789]

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[Grabbing_dragon]

this is for Reality-Fiction Transcendence which you have not proved .

A 1-A character or realm, on the other hand, fundamentally surpasses lower states of existence, with their sheer superiority not being expressible as the sum, union or permutation of anything in these lesser states. They, in other words, transcend lower existences to the point that those vanish into nothingness.[note 3]

and you using this void of nothingness which is aspatial in a sense it is vaster in comparison than all dimensional structures which you have not proven ,it is not said to be aspatial and encompasses everything in the verse itself that is a dimensional structure and this 'everything, all' does not matter they need to state what it is transcending we don't just assume stuff here,like transcerd "all" possible dimensions would be 1A statement.

put me in disagree

 

[Ar1216789]

this is for Reality-Fiction Transcendence which you not not proved .

A 1-A character or realm, on the other hand, fundamentally surpasses lower states of existence, with their sheer superiority not being expressible as the sum, union or permutation of anything in these lesser states. They, in other words, transcend lower existences to the point that those vanish into nothingness.[note 3]

and you using this void of nothingness which is aspatial in a sense it is vaster in comparison with all dimensional structures which you have not proven ,it is not said to be aspatial and encompasses everything in the verse itself that is a dimensional structure and this 'everything, all' does not matter they need to state what it is transcending we don't just assume stuff here,like transcerd "all" possible dimensions would be 1A statement.

put me in disagree

You seem to misunderstand. Justification for 1-A is the void of nothingness.
There are usually anti-feats that can disqualify this type of realm from being 1-A but here there are no such anti-feats because the conditions to access it are already set and no one has yet done otherwise. The Realm is free of the cycle, unshackled by everything, and above all. In a state where one looses even their self-identity and is free from all restrictions[and transcends everything]. It meets requirement for a Void of Nothing and other things.

As a default, statements of being "above dimensions" are set at Low 1-A, and the same is applied to statements indicating superiority over "All of space and time," and similar. However, if they are applied to realms that can be inferred to surpass the very composition of the lower reality (e.g. Realms that are, themselves, non-composite, such as conceptual domains, or often, voids of nothingness), then 1-A is the most appropriate rating for them.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

You seem to misunderstand. Justification for 1-A is the void of nothingness.

nope

There are usually anti-feats that can disqualify this type of realm from being 1-A but here there are no such anti-feats because the conditions to access it are already set and no one has yet done otherwise. The Realm is free of the cycle, unshackled by everything, and above all. In a state where one looses even their self-identity and is free from all restrictions[and transcends everything].

antifeats are not the problem it just lacks this to be a qualitative jump

voids of nothingness that lack space, time and physicality entirely, but are nonetheless "vaster" than physical reality in some way, with common imagery being the universe as a small object encompassed in such a backdrop.

 

[Ar1216789]

nope

antifeats are not the problem it just lacks this to be a qualitative jump

voids of nothingness that lack space, time and physicality entirely, but are nonetheless "vaster" than physical reality in some way, with common imagery being the universe as a small object encompassed in such a backdrop.

Nirvana, blah, blah, qualitative transcendence, blah blah, Nothingness. It meets requirements for being a void of nothingness among other things, the fact it exists above all makes the case less complex. It speaks of a state of nothingness akin to Nirvana, the idea of escaping the Samsara cycle of reincarnation, reinforced by repeated descriptions of this state lacking existence and other such things.

According to our tiering system, transcendence over space and time as the highest point of existence, and topping everything else below it, indeed qualifies for 1-A. Especially since the description mentioned abstract concepts and all meanings being irrelevant, and the realm itself is nothingness with the addition to be expressed to transcend space and time. It's independent of reality and a state of emptiness in a world of pure nothingness.



Also, I'm pretty sure I provided evidence for the qualitative jump, no?

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Nirvana, blah, blah, qualitative transcendence, blah blah, Nothingness. It meets requirements for being a void of nothingness among other things, the fact it exists above all makes the case less complex. It speaks of a state of nothingness akin to Nirvana, the idea of escaping the Samsara cycle of reincarnation, reinforced by repeated descriptions of this state lacking existence and other such things.

Here is a character with a statement of transcending all, everything statement. so it does not matter

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According to our tiering system, transcendence over space and time as the highest point of existence, and topping everything else below it

Nope, it only applies to the statements that directly say transcending the very concept of space and time and the other one is viewing spacetime as fiction

, indeed qualifies for 1-A. Especially since the description mentioned abstract concepts and all meanings being irrelevant, and the realm itself is nothingness with the addition to be expressed to transcend space and time. It's independent of reality and a state of emptiness in a world of pure nothingness.

nope this is just a normal void where everything is nothingness

Also, I'm pretty sure I provided evidence for the qualitative jump, no?

nope

 

[Ar1216789]

Here is a character with a statement of transcending all, everything statement. so it does not matter

Arceus Avatar Tiering Issue Solution?

Long story short Arceus is confirmed to have an avatar which is lesser than it's true form. Probably is that even for a character that appears very little it still appears enough that it's hard to pin down how strong it is exactly. However I have a solution born from my knowledge of most Pokemon...

vsbattles.com

These type of statements differ based on context or intent.

Nope, it only applies to the statements that directly say transcending the very concept of space and time and the other one is viewing spacetime as fiction

Sigh. I explained, it's free from the perpetual cycle and of limitation, above time and space, as the highest point of existence, world where nothing exists. Transcending all, and viewing it as "smaller", this is proven by everything that's said about the Realm of Apathy. It's free from the limitations of the mind & body; time & space, its vaster than reality - it's also independent from reality.

"Vaster" is not the only way to attain it; in general, you just need something that indicates superiority over space and time. Which I provided.

nope this is just a normal void where everything is nothingness

Did you read the passage? It is pure nothingness. I don't know where you got the idea it's a normal void where everything is nothingness. It's also mentioned to be a world where nothing exists, which you can find mentioned on the thread.

 

[Ar1216789]

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