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Because he can't harm them without killing himself. He physically can't harm them. At all. Only the stand can. And the stand requires him to take the same damage. He literally would have to kill him self to kill them. Aka. Not a valid win condition, or a win condition at all.Iapitus The Impaler said:Why are yall pretending like he cant harm them? Of course he can, his stand bypasses durability. If his enemy can't put him down either, then the incon is still valid
The spite page makes it clear that it is a spite thread if one side loses and is about humiliation. No one is trying to "humiliate" McQueen, nor his enemy, and no one is losing these matches. Therefore, they cannot be spite threads. If the match is made in good faith, as most of these are, then they aren't spite threads, and are completely fine. Walking into a thread with an outcome in mind is not spiteButtersamuri said:Because it's a spite fight. 99 percent of McQueens fights are absolute pure spite. Just cause "haha, he can tie with so and so". Nobody can win, it's purely for spite, and it's so obvious, the OP even knows it. At least fights like against that doctor guy, he could win by putting McQueen to sleep. And they both were physically comparable. Goku and Superman is spite
SCP 682 and X character have ways to harm each other thoughIapitus The Impaler said:Spite matches have to be with the intention of a loss, as the page explicitly says. A match being made with an inconclusive in mind is 100% ok, and that's in good faith since it isn't made for the detriment of either character. Care to explain what the issue is with making matches that are not bad for either side? No one loses anything by having the matches br added to the profiles.
682 is another example of a character with many matches being made with the intention of Inconclusive, and no one has issue with that
It's a mismatch only if one side has win conditions and the other doesn't. AP difference in and of itself means nothing, as can be seen from most smurf fightsI'm Blue daba dee daba die said:I heard from discussion mods that matches which no one can harm another is a mismatch and I see matches closed for that reaso
Nah, look at the green baby fightI'm Blue daba dee daba die said:SCP 682 and X character have ways to harm each other though
It can only be spite if one side loses, as is blatantly spelled out on the spite page, and it also cannot be a spite since the Matches are made in good faith. Stomps are also only stomps when one side loses. No one is losing these matches, therefore it cannot be spite and cannot be a stomp. I am going off of "what I think" in that I am going on exactly what the stomp and spite pages say. You are also just going on "what you think" but unlike me, your view does not match up with the pages.Buttersamuri said:You haven't exactly proven that no. They still fall under stomp/spite matches on our terms and should be removed. You are going based of what you think and not what are the rules here. Their meme haha spite fights. Plenty of then have been removed for the and reasons. Such as Broly, and they all should fall under the same ruling and should all be removed.
If you decide that it is a horrible match, that is fine, you are entitled to your opinion, but you can't get them removed from the profiles based on that subjective claim unless you can find a rule it violates.Ciruno Fortes said:Honestly if someone's gonna rack up an incon just because "Oneshot TMQ, oh no they're dead too" that itself makes itself a horrible match. It's predictable. Thus there's no need to record that in the profile. That's like saying a Tier 2 beats Tier 8. It's redundant and unnecessarily blots out the page
It's what we expect. What should be listed as ties are actual matches where it could go as a win for either side, and not just a tie in the first place.
So the matches I listed are to be fine with being removed????Dargoo Faust said:Considering nearly all of Thunder's matches are more joke threads than serious debate, I agree with most if not all of the OP's points.
I'd prefer seeing all the battles being axed, but that's just my opinion.
It's the working rule, even if it isn't written down. If we are truly going to start removing matches with no win conditions, then that should be done in all cases. Again, matches being funny or being made as "memes" doesn't invalidate then inherently, unless the match would usually violate rules which are not applied to joke battles. There are plenty of spam characters who's matches could be called memes but they still fly. Redundancy is another issue, but I can think of multiple characters who have multiple matches where no one can put the other down, yet they are not considered invalid under the duplicate rule. Like it or not, the redundancy rules is not enforced outside of matches against multiple forms of the same character (like if 2 characters had the same ability in different tiers and were put against eachother in each tier) or if they are incredibly similar characters from the same verse. An outcome being obvious does not make it invalid either, at least not on its ownButtersamuri said:I don't believe it actually does say that. It's not written down like that. If that's just you jumping to that conclusion, that's not a double standard. The page just doesn't cover that situation, that means it should be updated to cover such a situation. Currently though. McQueens fights were jokes, obvious, and redundant. And really they should be nuked