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Giratina reality warps the black hole and Thesh out of existence
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Thresh vs Giratina
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Yeah you would have to show me that Giratina has done anything like tht in character.Overlord775 said:
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Thresh's black holes are 4-D
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O just realized something, this would make the result exponentially higher seeing as there are wkkos in everybtimeline all with the same powers all creating countless timelines as wellSchroKatze said:
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Giratina's reality warping is 4-DWeeklyBattles said:
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Of course it is but again I need proof he uses it in a fight in character and has used it in the way you suggested.Overlord775 said:
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Oh thanks for reminding me, all of the dark stars should have the resistances granted from being exposed to the void and not being affected by it
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In gameplay or in lore?
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Lore
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anyone vote yet?
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So far I know there are 2 votes for Thresh, dunno about giratina as most of the thread has just been debating who has higher ap but not how giratina can actually win
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well guess nobody here my vote for Thresh FRA now.
we even Giratina can't reach get past DS thresh AP/Durability higher.
we even Giratina can't reach get past DS thresh AP/Durability higher.
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@Assalt Yes its 4-D its able to consume time
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@Weekly
No, if it's a black hole it's 1-D. A black hole is a singularity with exceptional mass. A black hole can bend space-time (and I guess consume it if you want to try and up the power) but it is a 1-D construct; a singularity is what a black hole is and it can't be anything else.
Edit: Not 0, 1. Sorry. I derped.
No, if it's a black hole it's 1-D. A black hole is a singularity with exceptional mass. A black hole can bend space-time (and I guess consume it if you want to try and up the power) but it is a 1-D construct; a singularity is what a black hole is and it can't be anything else.
Edit: Not 0, 1. Sorry. I derped.
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> Yes its 4-D its able to consume time
What? No. Black holes are one dimensional dots.
What? No. Black holes are one dimensional dots.
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@Assalt
Not zero dimensional, one dimensional.
Not zero dimensional, one dimensional.
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@Kep
Yeah I changed it. I derped out.
Yeah I changed it. I derped out.
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ya dem goofed.
The gist of it remains though.
The gist of it remains though.
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Exactly this is not a normal black hole.
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It doesn't matter that it is more powerful than normal. A black hole IS a singularity. That's like saying because a sword is 2-B then it isn't a sword. If a black hole was large enough it may be able to bend space-time to the point that it collapses in it in a la Big Crunch.
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If you try to vaporize the oceans from the bottom of the Pacific to the surface you'll create a black hole large enough to devour the universe billions of times over.
Ask Lanturn lol.
Ask Lanturn lol.
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I dont get this point? His black hole is 4-D, like it is not a normal black hole at all. It literally leads to non-existence.Assaltwaffle said:
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Black holes are 1-D. That's literally what they are on a fundamental level. A real-life black hole obliterates matter and some theories say it destroys information and causality. It's pretty close to EE.
Black holes are 1-D. That's literally what they are on a fundamental level. A real-life black hole obliterates matter and some theories say it destroys information and causality. It's pretty close to EE.
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@Kep
Freaking what?
Freaking what?
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@Assalt I mean Thresh's black holes erase thought...
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Yeah but this is clearly not a normal black hole....Assaltwaffle said:
Are you really comparing a normal black hole to a multiversal one?
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I mean you can't think in a conventional way if space-time has been infinitely bent and causality doesn't work anymore. So a normal black hole basically still does that, just without the metaphysical aspect.
I mean you can't think in a conventional way if space-time has been infinitely bent and causality doesn't work anymore. So a normal black hole basically still does that, just without the metaphysical aspect.
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Well this indeed has that metaphysical aspect, there is still no way for Giratina to get through.
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Characters muuuuuch weaker than Giratina bust black holes though. Heck, Giratina's entrance into the real world in the manga created one. Plus, Giratina's heavy connection to relativity kinda...weakens the usefulness of them.
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Yeah 2-B black holes?
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@Cal Azelf never busted a 2-B black hole
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Azelf > LoL though so it doesn't matter...at all.
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Azelf is not > LoL
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Considering that the one Azelf busted was created from a combo of Dialga's RoT and Palkia's SR, their signature moves, i'd very much say so.
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Proof it was a 2-B black hole? Having a 2-B attack create it isnt proof that the black hole itself is 2-BProfessorKukui4Life said:
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We've established that Pokemon's tiering in 2-B very much trumps LoL's. You admitted to this yourself. Schro's revelation lowered the gap, but not by enough. Even with how far behind the Lake Trio is to the Creation Trio, it's still higher than LoL.
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Pokemon's tiering doesnt trump LoL as LoL has countless layers of countless universes due to Ekko's powersThe real cal howard said:
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If you're talking about what I'm thinking of, Azelf was amped by a willpower bond with Ash when he destroyed that black hole. Don't treat like it's his normal level.
