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I'm gonna say to nominate any of whom you mentioned. Nightmare seems to be more likely, though.
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The Wiki's Strongest: Part V
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I would nominate The Crying Child (Post-Retcon) . But I feel that HOSTLESS/Nightmare and Iconoclast are also more powerful than the other 1-A's i've seen on the site... Hence why I believe they should be there as well.
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Yeah, Nightmare seems to be OP.
Anybody that feels fear has to put up a fight.
Anybody that feels fear has to put up a fight.
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My opinion:
IF the thread is specifically asking for who has the higher AP out of the 1-A's mentioned... It's TCC . I've read HOSTLESS numerous times... He doesn't even edge out Base Amanda in terms of AP. Not even Nightmare or Iconoclast does it either . Would they stomp TCC ... No. It'd be inconclusive no matter what way I balance it for various reasons:
IF the thread is specifically asking for who has the higher AP out of the 1-A's mentioned... It's TCC . I've read HOSTLESS numerous times... He doesn't even edge out Base Amanda in terms of AP. Not even Nightmare or Iconoclast does it either . Would they stomp TCC ... No. It'd be inconclusive no matter what way I balance it for various reasons:
- TCC is unaware of his powers, so the fight comes between them and The New Dark Subconsciousness' that replaces the original that got destroyed in the Hunt for God Arc of World's Beyond:
- Vs NIGHTMARE : Dark Subconscioussness doesn't feel fear. It doesn't even have emotions to fear. And that's the only hax I see affecting him on the page.
- Vs HOSTLESS: Dark Subconsciousness would likely underestimate HOSTLESS and end a Inconclusive due to the fact of his mannerisms being hard to predict, and as such he can't really "beat him" here.
- Vs Iconoclast: The most underwhelming of the two... TBQH . While I do believe he's above HOSTLESS and Nightmare, he's the only one I see Dark Subconsciousness' oneshotting with Existence Erasure that bypasses True-Godly Regen . He's predictable in comparison to the above 2 , his hax is notably lesser in comparison so it's less harder to bypass , among other things.
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Well, then, AP aside.
Then there's Nightmare's adapting. By the lord he hates, it's good.
Then there's Nightmare's adapting. By the lord he hates, it's good.
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Yeah...
Then another reason a fight between NIGHTMARE and TCC is a inconclusive. So, I guess I nominate both then.
Then another reason a fight between NIGHTMARE and TCC is a inconclusive. So, I guess I nominate both then.
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I mean
He could adapt to teleporting and somehow negate it.
So that's something.
Because screw Logic.
He could adapt to teleporting and somehow negate it.
So that's something.
Because screw Logic.
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Yeah... Applying logic to 1-A's this high in the totem poll... Is a bit hard to do.
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I have a match that kinda may decide the strongest 6-B
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big oof
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@Seed @Christian There goes your scaling above 1-As to get strongest logic
Also, The Crying Child just... didn't fix some of his issues. "At least 1-A" shouldn't be a thing, he's scaling above a profile we decided to delete (And said profile is beyond omnipotent), has limitations to time (Cause infinitiseconds) so he isn't even 1-A
Also, The Crying Child just... didn't fix some of his issues. "At least 1-A" shouldn't be a thing, he's scaling above a profile we decided to delete (And said profile is beyond omnipotent), has limitations to time (Cause infinitiseconds) so he isn't even 1-A
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Yeah.
Mattias wasn't the previous strongest 1-A because he scaled above a bunch of other 1-As. That was just the evidence for real reason.
He was the strongest 1-A on the wiki because he occupied a place in the cosmology that would have been the definition of High 1-A except for the fact that there was an entire race of beings (not on the wiki) who occupied the exact same spot with the exact same "power" level (though power had ceased to be an applicable concept at that point).
Mattias wasn't the previous strongest 1-A because he scaled above a bunch of other 1-As. That was just the evidence for real reason.
He was the strongest 1-A on the wiki because he occupied a place in the cosmology that would have been the definition of High 1-A except for the fact that there was an entire race of beings (not on the wiki) who occupied the exact same spot with the exact same "power" level (though power had ceased to be an applicable concept at that point).
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And my verse has 7 creator beings that only have limitations to each other (and self induced personalities because eh) which I will make profiles for after I 100% Mabinogi 100 times in one year with no damage while SL1'ing the entire Dark Souls franchise with no damage at the same time, then waiting 100 eternities (Look up anything here you don't know, I'm not explaining it here)
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Git gud
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@Monarch When you try your hardest and it isn't enough... Hmm ?
Firstly... I did fix most of the issues . You just didn't see it. I can't fix the original because he is locked... I cannot touch it. At all. If I could he would just be 1-A right now, and all of that beyond Omnipotent BS would be gone. Tell me Post-Retcon is as bad as the original... I really don't think it is. Especially because of how much I had to change it to compensate for what I knew was the problem in the first place.
He was retconned to just 1-A. I'll change the "At least" part of 1-A part when I can, and yes he is 1-A. You will not tell me he isn't 1-A when the cosmology & scaling to characters in-verse wuch as Hatoshi & Amanda says otherwise. I understand putting the original as part of the cosmology is a bold move. I have my reasons story wise and personal reasons why.
About the Infinitiseconds and the whole "bound by linear time", I recommend you read the notes on the Post-Retcon Crying Child page .
Firstly... I did fix most of the issues . You just didn't see it. I can't fix the original because he is locked... I cannot touch it. At all. If I could he would just be 1-A right now, and all of that beyond Omnipotent BS would be gone. Tell me Post-Retcon is as bad as the original... I really don't think it is. Especially because of how much I had to change it to compensate for what I knew was the problem in the first place.
He was retconned to just 1-A. I'll change the "At least" part of 1-A part when I can, and yes he is 1-A. You will not tell me he isn't 1-A when the cosmology & scaling to characters in-verse wuch as Hatoshi & Amanda says otherwise. I understand putting the original as part of the cosmology is a bold move. I have my reasons story wise and personal reasons why.
About the Infinitiseconds and the whole "bound by linear time", I recommend you read the notes on the Post-Retcon Crying Child page .
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Alright. I unlocked the old Crying Child page.
(But his scaling will not give him the 1-A spot on the Wiki's Strongest automatically)
(But his scaling will not give him the 1-A spot on the Wiki's Strongest automatically)
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Thank you. And I understand... I do believe AP wise he does actually fit the bill... Whether he will win every fight is another thing entirely... Which I don't think so. I'm just saying as of now he's a contender for the spot.
Anyways... I'll edit it ASAP.
Anyways... I'll edit it ASAP.
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"When holding back" Yeah that key should not exist.
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Also, The Marvelous Chester or The Stranger I think could take Low 7-C. I'd lean towards Chester due to being more haxed, but still.
Pretty sure either Aurum or Aliax take variable tier, too.
Pretty sure either Aurum or Aliax take variable tier, too.
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Unknown means that their tier cannot be decided, and their AP is not decided upon. Thus, "Unknown" should not be on here.DMUA said:
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Or it means their AP is not conventionally measurable.
I'm fine with having a strongest unknown.
I'm fine with having a strongest unknown.
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Reggy is 6-A with a higher ability though, which doesn't count for the spot IIRC. Regardless, a good portion of the cast is 6-A now, like Samuel Acies (Everybody Wants to Rule the World)
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