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The Unmatchable Characters list

Peppersalt43 said:
I've had a plan on making them fight Frisk. Both of their immortalities are tied to willpower so whoever loses their will first
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The chosen undead resists hollowing, which is the only way he could possibly lose.

frisk uh... i don't think they can ever run out of determination in that situation as well, since this their multi-city block versions where frisk is amped with a shit ton of determination.

i guess frisk could fallout new vegas the chosen undead.

[charisma 10] "**** off you ****** stupid rotting corse"
 
DaReaperMan said:
Neither loses their will like, ever though.
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if you wanna push the idea of one of them losing their will, flowey (supposedly) had lost their will to sans multiple times trying to kill him.

so technically, it is -possible- but like. it wont ever ****** happen unless the match up is changed to omega flowey vs the chosen undead. (which, sounds cool on paper but probably would end in a mismatch due to obvious reasons)
 
The_Impress said:
Concept of this thread is making a list of characters that literally can't get any fair matches on the wiki i.e. non-stomps, whether be it through really weird ratings, overpowered/severely underpowered mechanics, inconning every time, or just being stuck in a weird wiki blindspot.

Keep in mind the wiki list is dynamic, so if a fair matchup IS found, your character will be removed from the list altogether.

Some other rules, we're going by Standard Battle Assumptions + Speed Equalized, and Unknown characters I'm not allowing to stop redundancy.

The List​

  • Gilgamesh (The Unwritten): Has passive High 1-A Plot Manip, Stats Reduction and Immorality Negation with a 1-A Concept Destroying horn to boot, if you get past that hes a fairly skilled 9-B with Peak Human speed and no resistances.
  • Emperor of Mankind: 1-A Type 9, EE, Immorality Neg and essentially resists everything to that level.
  • Caine/Mage (WoD): Various High 1-A shit including the passive Subjective Reality and Power Null
  • Jill Presto: Passive 1-A Fate and Probability Hax plus High Godly regen for good measure
  • Little Treasure: Passively makes 1-As shit themselves
  • Oryx, the Taken King: Metric shit ton of hax, immorality and resistances
  • The Nerevarine: every single move they can use against a character will happen instantly, so it's another stomp or be stomped situation.
  • The Champion of Cyrodil: every single move they can use against a character will happen instantly, so it's another stomp or be stomped situation.
  • The Dovahkiin: every single move they can use against a character will happen instantly, so it's another stomp or be stomped situation.
  • The Vestige: every single move they can use against a character will happen instantly, so it's another stomp or be stomped situation.
  • Hawke - 10-A character with a High 8-C AOE move (thousands of meters of range) that cannot be spammed, and in fact being able to use it very rarely is his weakness. So he either one-shots with an undodgeable move or he dies before he can use it again.
  • Gibby - Passive planetary corruption, has some more hax but nothing too crazy.
  • The Crooked Man - Stonewall character who might or might not be an avatar cast by a corpse that's pretty hard to find unless you know it exists. Has hax but very overtime hax, so either you can kill it (and that makes it a stomp since it can't hurt you) or you can't, which means it mindhaxes you overtime.
  • Heaven Smiles - Almost all of them require two layers of ESP or what have you to see or hurt them (kinda like Stands), and to add to that their main method of attack is (for most of them) exploding, which kills them, so either they get an incon or they lose anyway.
  • Kamen Rider Zero-Two : His quantum haxes and skills-predictions make it impossible to find a match for him. So his matches would end up as he stomps his opponent or his opponent stomp him.
  • SCP-3812: either transcends his opponent and stomps or doesn't transcend and gets stomped
  • Anos Voldigoad: Haxwall going.
  • Thunder McQueen: [Demonetized]
  • Yveltal: Either stomps (when people start in range of it death auras), incons (when the enemy also has passives or they kill it from a distance so it goes instant death on the planet), or gets stomped (when they resist its death auras)
  • Void Entity. Nobody in 7-B resists his passive universal corruption that doesn't kick him right into next week
  • Dark Samus. Similar reasons, top of Low 4-C for a reason.
  • SCP-682 (Extended Canon): has a shit ton of hax and resistances, with most of its matches ending in a stalemate
  • Arale Norimaki: Either stomps or gets stomped, there is no in-between.
  • Sadakaya: Haxxy incorporeal low tier, I have the feeling every match would either end up with her being unkillable and haxing the enemy to death, a stalemate between her being unkillable and the opponent resisting her hax, or her being screwed by someone who resists and outhaxes and/ or AP stomps her.
  • Pyron's second key: An invisible and shapeless mass of intangible energy larger than twice the Milky Way. 3-C is already a small tier, but even accounting others I've always thought it would be difficult for everyone to properly interact with it, and if they have NPI it would be difficult to determine what would actually hurt him, how, where etc..., let alone what he can do with his own powers and size. I think all matches would be mismatches because he stomps the enemy, he gets stomped and outhaxed or it becomes impossible to even imagine how the battle would unfold in the first place.
  • Void Shiki: She either stomp because 1-A every nasuverse hax and resistance + transduality etc., or get stomped because baseline 1-A.
  • The Nine: Mostly the same reasons as Pyron, but it's made worse by the fact that they can't normally interact with the world.
  • The Old Man: Either you resist his plot manipulation and are immune against everything he does... or you don't and you passively lose.
  • Hatou Manabu: Aside from being extremely hard to permanently kill, her special nature makes it so that she has already done every possible move she could ever do against you when the fight starts. So either you're already dead or nothing she could do will ever work against you.
  • Griffin: either you resist, or you are crushed by his limbs from Higher D
  • Chaos King: Second key, you can't kill him, and CK just absorb you or else you stomp on him
  • Monarch of Pointland: you can either touch him or not.
  • Jessica Sorrow: passive 1-B subjective reality that negates attacks and erases people from existence
  • Iihiko Shishime (Medaka Box): his subjective reality is broken
  • Hanten Shiranui (Medaka Box): look above
  • Darth Nihilus (Star Wars): you either resist his deathhax or get passively stomped
  • Officio Assassinorum Culexus Assassins power null makes them stomp most things if it doesn't work they don't really have any other tricks
  • Cueball: 10-C with a bunch of hax and is extremely small, if you can hit him and get passed the hax hes just a 10-C character.
  • Arceus: has tons of passives, especially defensive passives, layered in awkward levels above concept level. Anyone who can bypass those defensives is probably gonna stomp, and anyone who can't either gets inconned or stomped.
  • Edmond Dantes: 1-A Soul destruction and have an ability to go immeasurable, rendering him to be nigh-unmatchable
  • Beiloune: Classification hax as a ton of applications and in his overshadowed state he exists outside of space and time. So you'd need the range to hit him, the senses/knowledge to tell were he is, and the resistances to defend against his Classification hax which effects people who have some form of resistance... it's hard for me to find good matches that aren't stomp or get stomped.
  • True Dark Genie: Multiple immortaliies that make him hard to kill and you need to go back in time to stop his birth and erase him otherwise he spreads to other points in time and continues to do so. Again, it's either stomp or gets stomped.
  • Noah. High 7-A character that has the composite of the entire verses concept hax at a multiversal level... and every character in the verse has concept stuff. She has good regen and is a robot, so many methods of taking her down don't work. Additionally, as she is the incarnation of the multiverses concepts, if you BFR her or erase her too well, you basically nuke yourself at a conceptual level. A fair match against her just has too many variables to meet.
  • Mamoru. He has passive supernatural luck that changes the past, but aside from that is a normal human. If he doesn't passively defeat his opponent, he probably gets stomped.
  • Satou Hiroshi. He is a perfectly average human. That alone makes him lose against virtually everyone that is allowed to have a profile on the wiki. Almost all characters he can really fight are featless 10-B keys of characters before they got their actual powers... and then the match either is immediately decided by the opponent being above/below average... or it doesn't have a conclusion since there are no real feats.
  • Femto: has passive casaulity hax that rendered any attacks useless, on top of being abstract existence. You also need to get through their immortalities and unnaturally charisma.
  • Kogasa Tara: you either aren't capable of harming them and they're capable of harming you which makes it a stomp, or you're capable of harming them. When that happened it's more than likely that the opponent the primordials are facing are haxlord, I mean what kinda character has feat affecting Nonexistent Physiology and Transduality unless they're haxlord or higher dimensional, if this happened, most of the Primordials aren't capable of combating back due to their...lack of offensive hax, and low level AP, even if the primordial has an offensive hax, it's more than likely the opponent is capable of resisting it due to the opponent being a haxlord or higher dimensional. A stomp for the haxlord a.k.a their opponent.
  • Junko: you either aren't capable of harming them and they're capable of harming you which makes it a stomp, or you're capable of harming them. When that happened it's more than likely that the opponent the primordials are facing are haxlord, I mean what kinda character has feat affecting Nonexistent Physiology and Transduality unless they're haxlord or higher dimensional, if this happened, most of the Primordials aren't capable of combating back due to their...lack of offensive hax, and low level AP, even if the primordial has an offensive hax, it's more than likely the opponent is capable of resisting it due to the opponent being a haxlord or higher dimensional. A stomp for the haxlord a.k.a their opponent.
  • Hecatia Lapislazuli: you either aren't capable of harming them and they're capable of harming you which makes it a stomp, or you're capable of harming them. When that happened it's more than likely that the opponent the primordials are facing are haxlord, I mean what kinda character has feat affecting Nonexistent Physiology and Transduality unless they're haxlord or higher dimensional, if this happened, most of the Primordials aren't capable of combating back due to their...lack of offensive hax, and low level AP, even if the primordial has an offensive hax, it's more than likely the opponent is capable of resisting it due to the opponent being a haxlord or higher dimensional. A stomp for the haxlord a.k.a their opponent.
  • Shion Yorigami: you either aren't capable of harming them and they're capable of harming you which makes it a stomp, or you're capable of harming them. When that happened it's more than likely that the opponent the primordials are facing are haxlord, I mean what kinda character has feat affecting Nonexistent Physiology and Transduality unless they're haxlord or higher dimensional, if this happened, most of the Primordials aren't capable of combating back due to their...lack of offensive hax, and low level AP, even if the primordial has an offensive hax, it's more than likely the opponent is capable of resisting it due to the opponent being a haxlord or higher dimensional. A stomp for the haxlord a.k.a their opponent.
  • Raikou Horikawa: you either aren't capable of harming them and they're capable of harming you which makes it a stomp, or you're capable of harming them. When that happened it's more than likely that the opponent the primordials are facing are haxlord, I mean what kinda character has feat affecting Nonexistent Physiology and Transduality unless they're haxlord or higher dimensional, if this happened, most of the Primordials aren't capable of combating back due to their...lack of offensive hax, and low level AP, even if the primordial has an offensive hax, it's more than likely the opponent is capable of resisting it due to the opponent being a haxlord or higher dimensional. A stomp for the haxlord a.k.a their opponent.
  • Bubble (BFDI): It's a bubble with little combat experience who dies if you sneeze on it
  • Shallow Vernal's first key: she has type 8 Immortality where she won't cease to exist as long as all stories (aka her enemies) still exist and she'll emerge into her second key which is 9D being with passive plot, powernull, and enhance sealing where she seal her target's abilities and regen so her enemy absolutely can't kill her as killing her will result in her becoming her second key so either her opponents has 9D smurf resistances or her opponents can incap her which is very hard considering her first key also has passive powernull and abundance of resistance to incappable hax like bfr and i haven't talk about her 9D smurf plot hax that she uses as her first move so it's either stomp or get stomped
  • Kuromueina's first key: she's effectively 5D possibly 7D being with almost all of her haxes and resistances are at that level even in her first key, so once again it's either she stomps her opponents or get stomped
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can Gojo be added
 
Swerzye29038 said:
can Gojo be added
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No pls I still remember Gojo vs Funny Valentine that was the good match tho
but yeah I agree a bit cuz it require Universal+ Range or Infinite speed to counter his Mugen + his durability negation that make him become top 2021 smurf
beside that ability that not relate to range is required
 
The_Impress said:
  • Femto: has passive casaulity hax that rendered any attacks useless, on top of being abstract existence. You also need to get through their immortalities and unnaturally charisma.
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I heard that you only need something like EE to effectively kill off the Godhand, might be wrong tho. I assume you can still hurt the Godhand though even if it's not going to kill them, since Femto had to actively dodge the Dragonslayer.
 
Why is Bubble here when she has wins and losses on her profile...

Has varying stats, other keys with durability to match the tier she’s in, you can make a match up for Bubble just fine, you just have to be careful
 
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TheMonkeMan said:
I don't find SCP interesting personally ( since it's just a bunch of abstract beings with reality hax ) but that's pretty funny
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I have watched a few videos on the Exploring series covering ones that aren't governed by what you're saying, I do get the premise but a lot could be missed out on.
 
Kirinator07 said:
I have watched a few videos on the Exploring series covering ones that aren't governed by what you're saying, I do get the premise but a lot could be missed out on.
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I should have said the Lovecraft Mythos or what ever it's called, that sounds like it's basically just what I described.
 
****, can anyone already downgrade that leviathan of stories? It has not business being that high at all.
 
Kenshiro and Kasumi: They both have automatic NEP which almost no character in their tier or above can do anything about, even if you bypass it they are still some of the most skilled characters in the wiki with several types of precog and a metric ton of instakill attacks. If the opponent is inorganic then 90% of their moves don't work which makes it gg
 
Gasper said:
He is above infinite hierarchy of stories. So that would be outerversal+ potentially baseline high outerversal if he completely transends that hierarchy.
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The whale itself is part of a never-ending hierarchy of its own kind with each having its own Outerversal+ hierarchy, at least that's what I've heard of.
 
Yeah I'm afraid there's one character that'll break the list and any other one once its mentioned

Hint: Its a composite
 
Kusuo Saiki, a very specific Hax resistance is needed to fight him, making those who have a resistance lose because they have no resistance to another of his powers. Or else they have the resistance but get stomped by the AP/Hax difference. Conversely, Saiki gets stomped because his enemies have higher AP/Dura/Hax, etc...
 
edutyn said:
Kusuo Saiki, a very specific Hax resistance is needed to fight him, making those who have a resistance lose because they have no resistance to another of his powers. Or else they have the resistance but get stomped by the AP/Hax difference. Conversely, Saiki gets stomped because his enemies have higher AP/Dura/Hax, etc...
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Or I use a Warhammer Fantasy melee and all is right with the world.

And by which I mean Warhammer Fantasy melees resist everything under the sun
 
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Xavier (Xavier: Renegade Angel)

Xavier is a well-meaning yet naive and oblivious faun-like shaman wanderer with delusions of grandeur who speaks in a surfer accent. Xavier has a contradictory backstory, with multiple accounts having him either being abandoned by an inhuman being at a lake before being found by a couple, or...
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His passive social influence makes it so hard to match him
 
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