What even
Which, again, is wrong because of the flight scan from the Daizenshuu which explicitly implies otherwise.
First move SSJ Goku makes against Frieza is to just blitz him front up right as Frieza aims at him.
Again, literally debunked by the Frieza beam barrage that Goku that just casually sidestepped from causing Frieza to go berserk and nuke Namek.
Again, wrong because of the beam barrage scenario and the Daizenshuu flight scan.
And yet there's no actual power value stated for SSJ1.
SSJ1 was the sole exception.
Literally proven wrong as per the Daizenshuu scan's contents.
Again, check the Frieza beam barrage scenario.
False equivalence. I said nothing about Piccolo's moon feat, only talking about techniques such as kaioken and Super Saiyan. You completely ignored that I said that Goku literally said that by amplifying his battle power, his strength and speed BOTH increase as a result, and Krillin says that too. There's the scan
This is appeal to popularity
AFAIK Grade 4 is basically SSJ1 with all its benefits and more efficient Ki usage, so it prolly doesn't change much right up until Goku absorbs God Ki and shit goes wild. But I'm pretty sure even then his non-blue forms are stuck at 3-A.
Appeal to authority and popularity, as Gilad said.
appeal to popularity
Except... That's how threads are evaluated?
Still doesn't change how this is appeal to popularity. He basically argues what he says is true because staff agree with him, rather than coming up with arguments of his own
Sometimes even more since not all staff are necessarily knowledgable on the verse in question
That's not what he said at all, lol. He said that staff have accepted this.
Sure, but if they aren't able to convince staff, welp.
Therefir and I are staff (I'm honorable staff for now but still)
No. He implies that his argument is correct because staff agrees with him, which is appeal to popularity and authority. He basically said that since he got more people he's right
Whatever you believe lol, I see no such implication. Specially when he even said to call more staff to evaluate it.
With all due respect to calc group members and all the hard work they do, they are chosen because of their expertise in calcs. Not to evaluate threads.
Also true but nothing prevents them from giving their opinion, their opinions are as allowable as any other normal user or staff.
Actually, it's better to put me in for neutral. My reasons for a downgrade overall is different than what's being debated.
I don't think that's what he's saying at all. He's already made his argument (which im neutral towards), and clearly since neither side is budging, it's up to the staff. And so far the staff that have responded (for the most part) agree with him.
Proportional means that the rate of increase remains the same between the values, so you contradict yourself
This.
That'd be true if it were a Staff-only CRT, but it isn't.
That's not what is meant when you use it mathematically. When A is directly proportional to B, it means that if A increases then B increases as well, and vice versa.
The opposing side also made some responses, I'd suggest checking them out too.
Read the definiton. It literally says that in the definiton for this word
No, they have to increase in the same rate so that the ratio between the value must remain the same. 6 to 9 isn't proportional to 7:10, since their ratios are different from each other
Don't go into unnecessary sematic. We both know very well you meant the regular proportion rather than inverse proportion (and even then, it decreases linearly), take for example 1/x formula. When x increases by some amount, the value of the function decreases as well in the same rate (for example, x is 1, so y is also 1. If you make x = 10, then y = 1/10, meaning that when x increases by 10 times, y decreases by 10 times)
That's just regular proportions, which you already mentioned before
only staff votes matter when it comes to crts
Aha, so why are regular users are even here? Seems like power abuse. Realistically the people that are knowledgeable about the verse should have more value In thier votes than staff that aren't knowledgeable about the verse.
