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The Strongest for Every Tier 14

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Monarch Laciel said:
She can't attack while she's in Avalon. Sure nothing can reach her, but she can't attack without leaving it either
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I thought that was the case as well, until her profile literally shows a scan of her using Avalon and Excalibre at the same time
 
God King Darius and Garen are stronger than God fist Lee Sin and God Staff Jax who are stronger than Aurelion Sol who is 3-B extremely casually

But theyre nowhere near the strongest 3-Bs
 
Gargoyle One said:
She can use Avalon as healing and defense, but she can't go to Acvalon itself.
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I'm... not sure I understand what you are saying. Even without going to the 6D structure itself, she can still use the dimensional refraction portion of the defense that will still defend up to the 6th dimension
 
It's only magic defense

It doesn't stop her from getting beaten to death by people vastly stronger then her that she can't kill.
 
Gargoyle One said:
It's only magic defense
It doesn't stop her from getting beaten to death by people vastly stronger then her that she can't kill.
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Do you have scans of physical attacks getting into her dimensional refraction, because just from reading from the guides, it sounds like physical attacks would be shut out as interference as well
 
Why would physical attacks that are not magic get stopped by defenses that specifically covers magic?

And yes, dozens of times in the Fate route. Especially against Gil
 
Gargoyle One said:
Why would physical attacks that are not magic get stopped by defenses that specifically covers magic?
And yes, dozens of times in the Fate route. Especially against Gil
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becausee as far as the guide say I haven't seen it specify magic

Ok, scans please?
 
You're overthinking it by a massive degree.

I literally showed you her being hit and hurt by physical attacks and you're saying it blocks if physical attacks due to an overlook in grammar.

This is not even counting that if she really could deflect physical and magical attacks she would be the strongest servant and that is laughably wrong.
 
Gargoyle One said:
You're overthinking it by a massive degree.
I literally showed you her being hit and hurt by physical attacks and you're saying it blocks if physical attacks due to an overlook in grammar.

This is not even counting that if she really could deflect physical and magical attacks she would be the strongest servant and that is laughably wrong.
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Yeah, what's the time stamp for it? that videos almost an hour long

She might very possibly have been that, if it were up to straight up hax on paper, but Ea gets around it due to its "you basically were never there" thing that let's it bypass many hax. There are things like Pioneer to of The Stars, which let Drake get to Avalon. Amita Amitabha ignores anything in the arsenal of humanity. Merlin exists. and then there is authority and all the conceptual bullshit.
 
36:08 I believe, haven't watched it in a while.

Except Gilgamesh has his her with physical attacks and she's been damaged by other physical attacks.

Legit what else is there?
 
If he could do that, he wouldn't be low 2-C.
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
I thought that was the case as well, until her profile literally shows a scan of her using Avalon and Excalibre at the same time
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What you saw was a representation of what happened during her final fight vs Gil in the Fate route. She used Avalon against Enuma Elish, she had to deactivate it because while isolated by her NP's effects she also can't attack, gathered her reaminaing prana while shortening her distance with Gilgamesh and unleashed a short distance Excalibur. She didn't use both NPs at the same time.

Using F/UC as an argument is not a good idea. For example, in the game Berserker can use Nine Lives, but in F/SN he cannot use it because as a Berserker, he lacks the motor skills to use it.
 
410 people IIRC.
 
In the past, his mindhax was responsible for what happened in Roanoke, where "90 men, 17 women, and 11 children" inexplicably went missing. (He used his mind control to march them into the sea)

In the movie proper, he threatened to do the same to all of the inhabitants of Little Tall Island, which is based on Mount Desert Island.

How big is Mount Desert's population? Well...

Credits to King.
 
I also never really got a solid answer on why Helios's power null is good. Profile says its on contact and through his strength, which isn't exactly the best way to sell it when he power nulled 3 8-Cs that way. Contact power null in general will be inferior to non contact based.
 
Wokistan said:
I also never really got a solid answer on why Helios's power null is good. Profile says its on contact and through his strength, which isn't exactly the best way to sell it when he power nulled 3 8-Cs that way. Contact power null in general will be inferior to non contact based.
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It's 2B
 
>Profile says its on contact

His powernull is nothing but an extinction of his true power, Raging Sphere Savior, which basically lolnopes everything that will kill Helios by erasing the event that lead to his death from reality.

And with it, he can basically destroy anything (space-time, dimensions, chuuni stuff)
 
Well, I wasn't aware he was a masada character. Was about to question where the 2-B comes from, since the examples on the page are not 2-B, but that makes more sense now. Someone may want to make his power null justification sound better though.
 
He's not from Masada

But he's from somoeone who worked with Masada, got inspired by Masada, and had his work on the same company as Masada.

Light work (the fighting VN ones at least) are bullshit in terms of hax anyway lol. You got someone who can evolue from just SS to Tier 2 in pretty much a low time (yeah not on profile but i'm covering that later. Not to mention he's reactive evolution is one of the most bullshitiest)

I'll have to play through the games but i'm kinda busy with other stuff (*looks at Demonbane*)
 
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